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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47822&quot;&gt;Gus Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

The Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy, The Boogey Man ...

All are children&#039;s mythical characters.  LRH was a living human being, who as a real person is accountable for his own life and actions.  As we all are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47822">Gus Cox</a>.</p>
<p>The Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy, The Boogey Man &#8230;</p>
<p>All are children&#8217;s mythical characters.  LRH was a living human being, who as a real person is accountable for his own life and actions.  As we all are.</p>
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		By: ArianaBlack		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47880</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47739&quot;&gt;racingintheblood39&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, racingintheblood39. That is what I was aiming for and I completely agree with you. 

Personally, I will not judge anyone for their views on Scientology or any religion for that matter. But we must not forget, Pro Tech or not. Pro LRH or not. We are all united by one view and one common purpose. Which is that there are people, at this time, causing damage and harm with a hand that reaches far across the globe and we want it to stop. Directing our attention to where our views change from that common point is exactly the kind of distraction David Miscavige wants. Once we have stopped the church from being able to cause harm, by all means people should commence to discuss/debate/argue their views and intentions.

Until then, let us keep our focus on the task at hand. Being unable to accept others views as their own only breeds for the mindset we accuse the Church of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47739">racingintheblood39</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, racingintheblood39. That is what I was aiming for and I completely agree with you. </p>
<p>Personally, I will not judge anyone for their views on Scientology or any religion for that matter. But we must not forget, Pro Tech or not. Pro LRH or not. We are all united by one view and one common purpose. Which is that there are people, at this time, causing damage and harm with a hand that reaches far across the globe and we want it to stop. Directing our attention to where our views change from that common point is exactly the kind of distraction David Miscavige wants. Once we have stopped the church from being able to cause harm, by all means people should commence to discuss/debate/argue their views and intentions.</p>
<p>Until then, let us keep our focus on the task at hand. Being unable to accept others views as their own only breeds for the mindset we accuse the Church of.</p>
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		By: ArianaBlack		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47878</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47822&quot;&gt;Gus Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

Gus Cox, I don&#039;t disagree with you. But I suppose I consider it trivial. Not because it is not important but because It is a problem, that there is no current solution for. It happened and it was done. Certainly it is relative to the fact that they are using this in the current day. But again, where is the solution. One thing that is almost certain, is that most active Scientologist&#039;s can barely hear of bad things to be said about Miscavige. We are more likely to scare them even further away, aiming at anti LRH post&#039;s. If they cannot confront that which is currently happening around them, how do you expect them to deal on confronting something that too many people can make up excuses for? 

Then again, this is not my blog, It is Mike&#039;s and I certainly trust him to to post information under good intentions and directed towards his goals on dealing with Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47822">Gus Cox</a>.</p>
<p>Gus Cox, I don&#8217;t disagree with you. But I suppose I consider it trivial. Not because it is not important but because It is a problem, that there is no current solution for. It happened and it was done. Certainly it is relative to the fact that they are using this in the current day. But again, where is the solution. One thing that is almost certain, is that most active Scientologist&#8217;s can barely hear of bad things to be said about Miscavige. We are more likely to scare them even further away, aiming at anti LRH post&#8217;s. If they cannot confront that which is currently happening around them, how do you expect them to deal on confronting something that too many people can make up excuses for? </p>
<p>Then again, this is not my blog, It is Mike&#8217;s and I certainly trust him to to post information under good intentions and directed towards his goals on dealing with Scientology.</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 03:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...but even if you were lead to believe they were from him, consider how that made you feel, the good that it did...

Like the Tooth Fairy.  Or a letter from Santa Claus.  That&#039;s great for 5-year-olds.  Which pretty much sums up the problem with Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;but even if you were lead to believe they were from him, consider how that made you feel, the good that it did&#8230;</p>
<p>Like the Tooth Fairy.  Or a letter from Santa Claus.  That&#8217;s great for 5-year-olds.  Which pretty much sums up the problem with Scientology.</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 03:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She&#039;s not well-known, but at least she&#039;s a pro - she had (or maybe still has - I don&#039;t know much about soap operas) a good run on The Young and the Restless.  Soaps are good-paying gigs!  As for Michael, I didn&#039;t make that seminar up - I actually saw the sign by the CCI parking lot.  The Duffs are nice enough, well, except for that thing where they went to Texas to harass Mark Rathbun... 

But Michael has nothing to offer about success as a musician.  Actually, nobody does, except for moi.  I&#039;ll clue you in on the easy, 3-part formula:  

1.  Have a lot of talent (or lacking that, charisma).  2.  Have a lot of luck.  3.  Boom.

There!  And you don&#039;t have to sit in the Garden Pavilion for a couple hours and get regged outta your kid&#039;s college fund!  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s not well-known, but at least she&#8217;s a pro &#8211; she had (or maybe still has &#8211; I don&#8217;t know much about soap operas) a good run on The Young and the Restless.  Soaps are good-paying gigs!  As for Michael, I didn&#8217;t make that seminar up &#8211; I actually saw the sign by the CCI parking lot.  The Duffs are nice enough, well, except for that thing where they went to Texas to harass Mark Rathbun&#8230; </p>
<p>But Michael has nothing to offer about success as a musician.  Actually, nobody does, except for moi.  I&#8217;ll clue you in on the easy, 3-part formula:  </p>
<p>1.  Have a lot of talent (or lacking that, charisma).  2.  Have a lot of luck.  3.  Boom.</p>
<p>There!  And you don&#8217;t have to sit in the Garden Pavilion for a couple hours and get regged outta your kid&#8217;s college fund!  🙂</p>
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		By: Espiritu		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47807</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 23:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Old School,
You capitalized the word FELONIES very dramatically, but, again, no further details. 
Are you saying that locking a child in a chain locker would be considered to a felony in the 1950&#039;s, 1960&#039;s or early 1970&#039;s?   I don&#039;t think so.
I know for a fact that even locking a child in an out-house was not considered to be a felony in the US (it was considered humorous), nor was beating them with objects that left welts. This type of behavior was, unfortunately, accepted by society as appropriate discipline. For that matter sending a minor to a psych ward to receive electro-shock was acceptable too. I once met someone in the 1960&#039;s to whom that had happened. 
The detail you mentioned was not a felony back then or even a crime. Were you thinking of some other act which you did not mention that &quot;LRH did to kids&quot;?

As for my confront of criminality, you really don&#039;t know me and you might be quite surprised as to how much evil I can confront and have confronted as well as what my personal values are (particularly with regards to children). I even see and confront petty crimes like the old trick of emphasizing only the negative aspects of a person in order to paint them as being all bad. I think that I have a good perspective as to what kind of person LRH was (and is) with no whitewash applied.
My admittedly un-asked-for advice to you is to take a look in the mirror.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old School,<br />
You capitalized the word FELONIES very dramatically, but, again, no further details.<br />
Are you saying that locking a child in a chain locker would be considered to a felony in the 1950&#8217;s, 1960&#8217;s or early 1970&#8217;s?   I don&#8217;t think so.<br />
I know for a fact that even locking a child in an out-house was not considered to be a felony in the US (it was considered humorous), nor was beating them with objects that left welts. This type of behavior was, unfortunately, accepted by society as appropriate discipline. For that matter sending a minor to a psych ward to receive electro-shock was acceptable too. I once met someone in the 1960&#8217;s to whom that had happened.<br />
The detail you mentioned was not a felony back then or even a crime. Were you thinking of some other act which you did not mention that &#8220;LRH did to kids&#8221;?</p>
<p>As for my confront of criminality, you really don&#8217;t know me and you might be quite surprised as to how much evil I can confront and have confronted as well as what my personal values are (particularly with regards to children). I even see and confront petty crimes like the old trick of emphasizing only the negative aspects of a person in order to paint them as being all bad. I think that I have a good perspective as to what kind of person LRH was (and is) with no whitewash applied.<br />
My admittedly un-asked-for advice to you is to take a look in the mirror.</p>
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		By: Ols School		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47769</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 16:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47734&quot;&gt;Espiritu&lt;/a&gt;.

Espiritu, What LRH did to kids on the Apollo would have landed him in prison for committing FELONIES even then.   Once your confront of criminality rises to what is considered a par minimum for living in a civilized society, you&#039;ll start to see what Hubbard was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47734">Espiritu</a>.</p>
<p>Espiritu, What LRH did to kids on the Apollo would have landed him in prison for committing FELONIES even then.   Once your confront of criminality rises to what is considered a par minimum for living in a civilized society, you&#8217;ll start to see what Hubbard was.</p>
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		By: racingintheblood39		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47739</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47673&quot;&gt;ArianaBlack&lt;/a&gt;.

ArianaB, you manage to convey a refreshing honesty, without the usual trashing of LRH, that is becoming so commonplace these days. And my guess is, that long after the trashers have passed on, the workability of the AXIOM-backed auditing tech, will still be firing away on &#039;all four cylinders&#039;, for the self same original purpose of delivering people from their travails, and lifting them upward to new abilities.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47673">ArianaBlack</a>.</p>
<p>ArianaB, you manage to convey a refreshing honesty, without the usual trashing of LRH, that is becoming so commonplace these days. And my guess is, that long after the trashers have passed on, the workability of the AXIOM-backed auditing tech, will still be firing away on &#8216;all four cylinders&#8217;, for the self same original purpose of delivering people from their travails, and lifting them upward to new abilities.  🙂</p>
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		By: Leonore		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leonore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 09:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47613&quot;&gt;FG&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a cool story.  Thanks for sharing the good, too.  I also got results writing on the SO#1 line regarding a bad situation - not my personal situation, but a bad situation in another org at that time involving children.  (I don&#039;t want to get too specific.)  Whether or not LRH ever saw it - I don&#039;t know.  I had a responsible executive position, but from my hat I had no power to order any fix for the situation, and I knew no one at my continental level would/could handle.  So, I wrote it up on SO#1 - detailing the danger.  It took a month or so for things to be remedied, but ultimately a reorganization did come through and things improved significantly - at least for that time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/1-unit/#comment-47613">FG</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a cool story.  Thanks for sharing the good, too.  I also got results writing on the SO#1 line regarding a bad situation &#8211; not my personal situation, but a bad situation in another org at that time involving children.  (I don&#8217;t want to get too specific.)  Whether or not LRH ever saw it &#8211; I don&#8217;t know.  I had a responsible executive position, but from my hat I had no power to order any fix for the situation, and I knew no one at my continental level would/could handle.  So, I wrote it up on SO#1 &#8211; detailing the danger.  It took a month or so for things to be remedied, but ultimately a reorganization did come through and things improved significantly &#8211; at least for that time.</p>
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		By: Espiritu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 08:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Old School, 
Accusing someone &quot;child abuse&quot; without further detail can, by the definition of &quot;child abuse&quot;, infer sexual abuse. Thank you for clarifying that you did not mean that LRH was involved in child abuse of that nature. That&#039;s what I initially thought you might have been hinting at since you gave no details.

What constitutes child abuse has changed over the decades. 
Today it is possible for a person to be arrested for giving a child a spanking. 
In the &#039;50s, &#039;60s, and &#039;70s giving a child &quot;a good whuppin&quot; or &quot;taking them out to the woodshed&quot; was socially acceptable as you may or may not know. 
My personal view is that any kind of corporal punishment of a child is abusive, should never be done, and is not a legitimate part of parenting. Adults are supposed to simply love children and help them to find their place in the world.

And, Old School, I am not madly trying not to look. In fact, I am looking and I am seeing what I look at. I am also evaluating importances and judging what the purpose of communications I receive are.  I am not interested in covering up Ron&#039;s moral errors and transgressions any more than I am interested in covering up or obscuring or failing to acknowledge his monumental discoveries and developments in the fields of the mind and the spirit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old School,<br />
Accusing someone &#8220;child abuse&#8221; without further detail can, by the definition of &#8220;child abuse&#8221;, infer sexual abuse. Thank you for clarifying that you did not mean that LRH was involved in child abuse of that nature. That&#8217;s what I initially thought you might have been hinting at since you gave no details.</p>
<p>What constitutes child abuse has changed over the decades.<br />
Today it is possible for a person to be arrested for giving a child a spanking.<br />
In the &#8217;50s, &#8217;60s, and &#8217;70s giving a child &#8220;a good whuppin&#8221; or &#8220;taking them out to the woodshed&#8221; was socially acceptable as you may or may not know.<br />
My personal view is that any kind of corporal punishment of a child is abusive, should never be done, and is not a legitimate part of parenting. Adults are supposed to simply love children and help them to find their place in the world.</p>
<p>And, Old School, I am not madly trying not to look. In fact, I am looking and I am seeing what I look at. I am also evaluating importances and judging what the purpose of communications I receive are.  I am not interested in covering up Ron&#8217;s moral errors and transgressions any more than I am interested in covering up or obscuring or failing to acknowledge his monumental discoveries and developments in the fields of the mind and the spirit.</p>
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