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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260897</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 10:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260337&quot;&gt;Moop&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike, you do realize that that clever Munich OSA dude you put on post was a U Boat Kapitan in his former life?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260337">Moop</a>.</p>
<p>Mike, you do realize that that clever Munich OSA dude you put on post was a U Boat Kapitan in his former life?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 09:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260323&quot;&gt;George M White&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, computers are a great thing! One can sit down and mock up a completely made-up story and call Hubbard Lucifer and all that and call it &quot;New OT8&quot;! Or even worse receive this as an April Fool&#039;s joke and believe it! And then to &quot;prove&quot; the validity of such one can believe the dude that &quot;found&quot; the supposedly most confidential document in Scientology history in run-of-the-mill OSA files and wonder &quot;how did that get there? Surely if it was the real OT8 this should not be sitting in office filing cabinets off Hollywood Boulevard? Surely not?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260323">George M White</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, computers are a great thing! One can sit down and mock up a completely made-up story and call Hubbard Lucifer and all that and call it &#8220;New OT8&#8221;! Or even worse receive this as an April Fool&#8217;s joke and believe it! And then to &#8220;prove&#8221; the validity of such one can believe the dude that &#8220;found&#8221; the supposedly most confidential document in Scientology history in run-of-the-mill OSA files and wonder &#8220;how did that get there? Surely if it was the real OT8 this should not be sitting in office filing cabinets off Hollywood Boulevard? Surely not?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 08:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260506&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

I have just noticed your completely false datum about entities &quot;jumping ship&quot; or was it your made-up story (as I am sure the dude in question wouldn&#039;t have apprised you of that idea would he?) Sounds a bit like the sort of silly idea that Brian might have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260506">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>I have just noticed your completely false datum about entities &#8220;jumping ship&#8221; or was it your made-up story (as I am sure the dude in question wouldn&#8217;t have apprised you of that idea would he?) Sounds a bit like the sort of silly idea that Brian might have.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 08:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260362&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Is this what members of the Anti-Scientology Cult (not my words) do? Ask for pictures of their guru on holiday? Next you will be asking for autographs! Or has that already been done below - yep, an indirect mention of it anyway. Fame eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260362">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Is this what members of the Anti-Scientology Cult (not my words) do? Ask for pictures of their guru on holiday? Next you will be asking for autographs! Or has that already been done below &#8211; yep, an indirect mention of it anyway. Fame eh?</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260886</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 08:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260729&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not as dim-witted as you think (now, that was real sarcasm).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260729">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>I am not as dim-witted as you think (now, that was real sarcasm).</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foolproof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 08:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260379&quot;&gt;civmar&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s another one who believes in silly stories! Still, it&#039;s nearly April the 1st.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260379">civmar</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another one who believes in silly stories! Still, it&#8217;s nearly April the 1st.</p>
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		By: jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 01:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, 

Great picture.  My fewer than a thousand  words are an attempt to capture the message I see:
Hubbard’s Fleecewinds vessel is 70 years old and not even worth the scrap metal she contains due to the tons of blue asbestos still inside her.  She is the old and sad vessel scientologists go to supposedly  ‘expand beyond infinity’ and into spiritual realms unheard of(snark) ..  She never travels into deep water, but especially never to a USA port.  Maybe she can comfortably handle 300 ‘visitors’ questing for spiritual slavery.

The Ruby Princess next to the Fleecewinds is 10 years old and valued at 400 millions. She travels the world and puts in anywhere she wishes.  She is a fun and stress relieving vessel that roams the ocean freely and can wine and dine 3,600 guests. Her guests debark  in far better spirits than those debarking the Fleecewinds.

The contrast is truly stark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>Great picture.  My fewer than a thousand  words are an attempt to capture the message I see:<br />
Hubbard’s Fleecewinds vessel is 70 years old and not even worth the scrap metal she contains due to the tons of blue asbestos still inside her.  She is the old and sad vessel scientologists go to supposedly  ‘expand beyond infinity’ and into spiritual realms unheard of(snark) ..  She never travels into deep water, but especially never to a USA port.  Maybe she can comfortably handle 300 ‘visitors’ questing for spiritual slavery.</p>
<p>The Ruby Princess next to the Fleecewinds is 10 years old and valued at 400 millions. She travels the world and puts in anywhere she wishes.  She is a fun and stress relieving vessel that roams the ocean freely and can wine and dine 3,600 guests. Her guests debark  in far better spirits than those debarking the Fleecewinds.</p>
<p>The contrast is truly stark.</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260729</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat LaRue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 16:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260635&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey FP!!!!
Missed you so much! Glad you could join us. (Just in case your as dim witted as I think- that was sarcasm)
Kat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260635">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Hey FP!!!!<br />
Missed you so much! Glad you could join us. (Just in case your as dim witted as I think- that was sarcasm)<br />
Kat</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260632&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Foolproof - I left Scn soon after attesting to Clear because of the monthly price increases. Lots of people believe in incorporeal conscious entities like angels, ghosts, spirit guides, ascended masters and so on. If I had stayed in Scn it&#039;s speculation on my part if I would have accepted Hubbard&#039;s description of body thetans. I might have given it a try. I ain&#039;t afraid of no ghosts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260632">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Foolproof &#8211; I left Scn soon after attesting to Clear because of the monthly price increases. Lots of people believe in incorporeal conscious entities like angels, ghosts, spirit guides, ascended masters and so on. If I had stayed in Scn it&#8217;s speculation on my part if I would have accepted Hubbard&#8217;s description of body thetans. I might have given it a try. I ain&#8217;t afraid of no ghosts.</p>
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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260449&quot;&gt;TfromC&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps while you’re on your cruises you could ask the captain why last year alone over 1billion gallons of raw sewerage was dumped into the ocean by cruise ships? Surely there has to be a better solution!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-cruise-but-not-tom/#comment-260449">TfromC</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps while you’re on your cruises you could ask the captain why last year alone over 1billion gallons of raw sewerage was dumped into the ocean by cruise ships? Surely there has to be a better solution!!</p>
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