“Fuck you! That’s my name…”

What kind of church…?

The scam cult kind of church that like every other scam cult church preys on the insecurities of its followers and brainwashes them into believing they’ve being allowed to join a group of “SUPER” people. No scam cult can survive without selling tons of BS. Credit to Elron for recognizing early on he’d need well trained scam artists to peddle his brand of manure

Exactly, Mark. I always liked HCOPL 9 Sept 1981 entitled How To “Sell” Scientology To Your Friends. (The satirical quotation marks are Ron’s) In it there is a step by step process to find out what is needed and wanted by a person (using the pre-session processes), and only once that is discovered is any recommendation made regarding a service. When I first read this policy on Staff Status II I called the course supervisor over and said, “This is amazing…..has ANY reg ever read this??”.

As for Les Dane, I have heard “rumors” that Hubbard once said something complimentary about his book, but I have never seen that in writing anywhere. It might be true, but he didn’t have anything to do with Scientology and to my knowledge was not a Scientologist.
In any event he was a salesman whose purpose was to SELL without regard for the nature of the product or the needs and wants of the customer.
His book was all about how to enforce realities rather than discovering new realities and enhancing understanding.
His book described a way to sell Cadillacs in the ghetto on credit to people who are struggling to make ends meet.
The world needs products like this like it needs disease and famine.

He’s not the only SO recruiter to dangle the 2D carrot. The Austrian named Gerald Pissel did it too. And he was a looker.

And of course those 50-100,000 would have led to several hundred thousand more appearing on lines over the last decades by obtaining good results and a nice friendly environment and thus good PR – forgot all those aspects! Someone has been busy driving them all away. I wonder who?

It’s a laugh a minute here – really enjoying it tonight, the previous post was “Les Dane is 1.1” and now with Gus’s phrase “chummed the water”. LOL! Very good Gus! One can just imagine when one or more Regges hears that another Reg has just “made his mark” – and the bee lines being drawn to the mark and the mark fleeing from the Org before the others can take a bite out of him.

Yes I remember those times before all this as well Gus, without a reg popping up from behind every pillar. The tone level within Orgs now is probably what? 1.1? At highest 2.0. Or what is “Fear” – 1.0 as I recall. And that’s just social tone! The “public” are there to be milked and slaughtered for their cash, they are almost regarded as “enemies” – the idea of a religious co-operative (that still needed funding of course) has long since gone. But they would have made far more money if they had not changed their attitudes. Imagine those 50-100,000 disaffected and trained people still being on lines and all the courses and intensives they would have bought? I always remember hearing the story of Harvey Jacques regarding students on courses as “marks” rather than auditors in training.

Your post was excellent Gus. Nice summary of the current state of affairs.

“Les Dane was 1.1” – made me laugh. Still laughing! Just about sums it all up really – “the technique we are using to strip you of your assets was invented by a 1.1”. I remember perusing the book and thinking some of the ideas were pretty good. I don’t think there would have been anything fundamentally wrong with (helping to) close people for fairly priced intensives and courses when they were ready for it and the product was good. Or helping them to decide whether they should buy a big screen TV or 12.5 hours. But scamming them for the other stuff like IAS and Idle Orgs and maxing out credit cards and selling/re-mortgaging their houses when obviously deep down they know they are being bilked and robbed is where the line must be drawn.

Miscavige Maxims:

“Everyone regges.”
“No food or sleep until you close someone.”
“Scientology will expand to the degree you sell it.”
“If you wanna get out of lowers, make a Patron!”
“The Golden Age of Tech will succeed only if you bring in the gold.”

Interesting, Foolproof. Yes, its all about the money.

This is anecdotal but I know one ex-SO who was fitness-boarded for health reasons, who apparently was “ordered” to become a “Recovery Specialist” or whatever the term for this hat is now. As an OTC member, it was not what this terminal wanted to do but you know, Command Intention and all…the deal was recover Div 2 people via ethics cycles and then reg them for a service, their next service, whatever, and get that commission. Which means if you’re being recovered your ethics officer is double-hatted as your registrar.

Now, can you imagine feeling relaxed and able to communicate your problems to an EO who has a vested financial interest in getting you back, who, as soon as your ethics cycles are handled, becomes your registrar? Gosh, I would just feel so safe with this person, wouldn’t you?

Its so squirrel, so wrong, so not workable, so not LRH, and I’m so glad I’m no longer there, and that I know what I know, thanks to Mike, Marty, Tony and all the other truth-tellers. I’m very lucky.