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		By: neal		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-191112</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is so sad to see so many here stuck in the prison of their own convictions, the belief system that they slowly built on no real truth or foundation. Reasoning with minds still full of Scientology concepts which feels so normal to them. And all because they never questioned the tech or the results of that tech. Doubt is your friend not your enemy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so sad to see so many here stuck in the prison of their own convictions, the belief system that they slowly built on no real truth or foundation. Reasoning with minds still full of Scientology concepts which feels so normal to them. And all because they never questioned the tech or the results of that tech. Doubt is your friend not your enemy.</p>
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		By: neal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2017 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-191087&quot;&gt;neal&lt;/a&gt;.

I would just like to add that back in the early 70s as a Sea Org member it took me only 3 years to see through the destructive and malicious nature of the organisation and Execs of Scientology, but it took me another 30 years to discover the same with the tech.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-191087">neal</a>.</p>
<p>I would just like to add that back in the early 70s as a Sea Org member it took me only 3 years to see through the destructive and malicious nature of the organisation and Execs of Scientology, but it took me another 30 years to discover the same with the tech.</p>
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		By: neal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2017 22:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190678&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

I would have to disagree with &quot;let him die&quot;. Miscavige is a gift to those of us who wish to see an end to both the church and the technology. How much more difficult would it be to expose the damage caused by Scientology were Miscavige more representative of a humanitarian than a psychopath. 
The pernicious nature of the technology is clear to be seen in the uniform corruption of what were originally good hearted people mostly, but hijacked by the slick sales and the apparent gains made early on with such conditioning as the TRs and early experiences of auditing. No one ever listened to us like that before. They let you say as much as you need to about your personal problems and upsets, you feel relief as you unburden your &#039;self&#039;. But what I found to be true is that all Scientology does in reality is boost the ego,hence the love of &#039;certainty. A term or concept such as ego you will never find in Scientology.
Despite the perceived benefit of doing something like TR drills, the reality is that it conditions one away from being human, to not feel empathy when confronted by the emotional distress of others, because you keep your &#039;TRs&#039; in. And through one small step at a time a person is tricked into submission of their decency, their humanity because they are transformed by the lure of immortal being, the &#039;thetan&#039; and for the sense of personal enhancement and spiritual progression to the ultimate elite state of being i.e. OT.
No despite the direct suffering caused by Miscavige which I would not wish upon anyone, his very presence makes it so much more likely that the end of this destructive cult will come sooner than later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190678">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>I would have to disagree with &#8220;let him die&#8221;. Miscavige is a gift to those of us who wish to see an end to both the church and the technology. How much more difficult would it be to expose the damage caused by Scientology were Miscavige more representative of a humanitarian than a psychopath.<br />
The pernicious nature of the technology is clear to be seen in the uniform corruption of what were originally good hearted people mostly, but hijacked by the slick sales and the apparent gains made early on with such conditioning as the TRs and early experiences of auditing. No one ever listened to us like that before. They let you say as much as you need to about your personal problems and upsets, you feel relief as you unburden your &#8216;self&#8217;. But what I found to be true is that all Scientology does in reality is boost the ego,hence the love of &#8216;certainty. A term or concept such as ego you will never find in Scientology.<br />
Despite the perceived benefit of doing something like TR drills, the reality is that it conditions one away from being human, to not feel empathy when confronted by the emotional distress of others, because you keep your &#8216;TRs&#8217; in. And through one small step at a time a person is tricked into submission of their decency, their humanity because they are transformed by the lure of immortal being, the &#8216;thetan&#8217; and for the sense of personal enhancement and spiritual progression to the ultimate elite state of being i.e. OT.<br />
No despite the direct suffering caused by Miscavige which I would not wish upon anyone, his very presence makes it so much more likely that the end of this destructive cult will come sooner than later.</p>
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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-191035</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Old news perhaps. I was working for the Corps of Engineers in their mail room in the early &#039;80s. We got a couple of full bags of LRH book with the address of everyone in the building. I had to kind of laugh when I watched the show with Mike and Leah, and they had on the &quot;X&quot; propaganda person that was saying that they were selling the books like crazy (do you remember the TV ads). I think that there was something like about 200 free books given out just in my building. I wonder how many other places the books were give to for free.

Another item of ancient history. I live in Portland, Oregon. Back in 1980 something, I was at the Scientology place in downtown Portland. I was invited to &quot;try out with the team&quot; and join the cult. I was in a room with a lot of other people, and noticed that in an adjoining room there was some clown screaming at some lady over and over again about not doing something right. She looked terrified and beaten down. I asked the guy that I was talking to what was going on, and who was the bully in the next room. I personally would never treat a lady in that fashion. The guy who I was talking to said to never mind, as she is being I think he said &quot;processed, and taking her lessons.&quot; I told the guy that I thought that was B.S. and he told me that he did not think that I would be a very good person for Scientology. LOL. I left before I even got started. LOL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news perhaps. I was working for the Corps of Engineers in their mail room in the early &#8217;80s. We got a couple of full bags of LRH book with the address of everyone in the building. I had to kind of laugh when I watched the show with Mike and Leah, and they had on the &#8220;X&#8221; propaganda person that was saying that they were selling the books like crazy (do you remember the TV ads). I think that there was something like about 200 free books given out just in my building. I wonder how many other places the books were give to for free.</p>
<p>Another item of ancient history. I live in Portland, Oregon. Back in 1980 something, I was at the Scientology place in downtown Portland. I was invited to &#8220;try out with the team&#8221; and join the cult. I was in a room with a lot of other people, and noticed that in an adjoining room there was some clown screaming at some lady over and over again about not doing something right. She looked terrified and beaten down. I asked the guy that I was talking to what was going on, and who was the bully in the next room. I personally would never treat a lady in that fashion. The guy who I was talking to said to never mind, as she is being I think he said &#8220;processed, and taking her lessons.&#8221; I told the guy that I thought that was B.S. and he told me that he did not think that I would be a very good person for Scientology. LOL. I left before I even got started. LOL.</p>
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		By: LJ Savage		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2017 05:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They&#039;re not doing too well in Toronto either .Sadly they asked for money pretending they would renovate a building which remains boarded up.

https://torontoist.com/2017/08/ontario-father-says-scientology-destroyed-family-didnt-know-going/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not doing too well in Toronto either .Sadly they asked for money pretending they would renovate a building which remains boarded up.</p>
<p><a href="https://torontoist.com/2017/08/ontario-father-says-scientology-destroyed-family-didnt-know-going/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://torontoist.com/2017/08/ontario-father-says-scientology-destroyed-family-didnt-know-going/</a></p>
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		By: Jill Hunter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190970</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 20:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190757&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

The latest *dated* story was 2016.  I may just have to take a drive over to Sandy Springs and check it out for myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190757">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>The latest *dated* story was 2016.  I may just have to take a drive over to Sandy Springs and check it out for myself.</p>
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		By: disco george		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 04:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190772&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d like to believe she&#039;ll have an aha! moment too.  But then again, maybe being married to Fred Armisen for about 2.2 seconds pushed her further into the bubble...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190772">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to believe she&#8217;ll have an aha! moment too.  But then again, maybe being married to Fred Armisen for about 2.2 seconds pushed her further into the bubble&#8230;</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190559&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the crickets would be vewwy vewwy quiet because the regges would try and get them to open their little wallets and donate aphids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190559">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>I think the crickets would be vewwy vewwy quiet because the regges would try and get them to open their little wallets and donate aphids.</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Knowing your way to prosperity.&quot; In Chan&#039;s case it should read, &quot;Knowing your way to pay for his prosperity.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Knowing your way to prosperity.&#8221; In Chan&#8217;s case it should read, &#8220;Knowing your way to pay for his prosperity.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jill Hunter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190588&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Accepting an award for personal excellence is one thing.  Some people are gifted actors.  But with the way the wind is blowing right now, crediting co$ would be shooting herself in the foot.  Maybe it would be OK, she and TC can hang out with their feeties elevated while they heal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/an-org-in-trouble/#comment-190588">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Accepting an award for personal excellence is one thing.  Some people are gifted actors.  But with the way the wind is blowing right now, crediting co$ would be shooting herself in the foot.  Maybe it would be OK, she and TC can hang out with their feeties elevated while they heal.</p>
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