Comments on: Another Seminar Designed For Miscavige

By: Leonore

Leonore — Sat, 12 Jul 2014 07:41:57 +0000

Aquamarine,

There is nothing Artie knew or knows from those days that would put him on DM’s or anyone’s payroll. Regardless of the fact Arte was named an unindicted co-conspirator, he was Deputy Guardian Public Relations US – as Kathy Nather pointed out – and only involved when stuff hit the press. He would have been briefed only to the extent necessary for him to try to handle things (spin a bad story, if you will). First an intelligence failure, then a PR failure, then a legal failure…what a mess. It all was so stupid, didn’t have to happen, and was a kick in the groin.

There is no locker of secrets to be opened from those days. Pretty much everything came out in the press. Some stuff was even invented or dressed out to be more than it was to suit various peoples’ personal agendas.

By: arrayofsunn

arrayofsunn — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 23:37:12 +0000

In the ad it mentions all races, color, nationality or ethnic origin accepted, but it doesn’t say anything about homeless – lol!! They should just say “middle class” or higher are welcome and leave it at that.

By: Rob Thomas

Rob Thomas — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:15:44 +0000

I would NEVER want to learn about Social Media from anyone in the cult. They don’t know a thing about it.

By: Cindy

Cindy — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:34:34 +0000

In reply to Aquamarine. Yep it is one big feeding frenzie! But when all are sucked dry, then what? No more blood to be had. Then the implosion will occur and it won't be a pretty sight. I hope soon. And I Hope some leave before it gets to that.

By: Mark Foster

Mark Foster — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:20:41 +0000

In reply to knatherthomas.

Also: http://www.xenutv.com/blog/2008/07/04/unindicted-co-conspirators/

By: Mark Foster

Mark Foster — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:06:23 +0000

In reply to knatherthomas.

From Tony Ortega´s Blog:
¨Back in the late 1970s, Arte was named by the government as one of the unindicted co-conspirators in Scientology’s audacious infiltration of federal offices from 1974 to 1977. L. Ron Hubbard dreamed up the Snow White Program in 1973, and the next year members of his “Guardian Office” began breaking into federal offices in earnest. The FBI eventually got wind of what was going on when a GO agent turned witness, and then raided Scientology 37 years ago today, on July 8, 1977.

Eventually, eleven top Scientology and GO executives went to prison, including Hubbard’s wife, Mary Sue. And more than 30 lower-level GO operatives were named as unindicted co-conspirators, including Arte. ¨

By: Roger From Switzerland Thought

Roger From Switzerland Thought — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:09:22 +0000

“and learn why money is NOT the key to production or motivation”

If you pay good money to your employees more loyal and productive they’ll be !

“NONSENSE” but the COS demonstrate this rule. Motivate them with the promise of “Big money in the future” and they’ll work for free and even give you all their money.

If I would work this style I would be gone in an instant, but Scientogists believe any nonsense..

By: Espiritu

Espiritu — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:02:14 +0000

Darned right, Dan. If anyone needs to learn the subject of Management by Statistics, it is David Miscavige. Even if one decided that expensive buildings made an org ideal, and decided to implement such a program, one could still later correct the situation if it did not make stats go up.
If one knew only the definition of Management by Statistics and nothing else and had any ability to observe the physical universe they could see the result of their actions and make a correction.
Of course since a psycho always “has to be right” he is incapable of observing his own errors and incapable of correction and so must lie about the resulting statistics. Unfortunately for DM, there are a lot of Scientologists who can observe and who do understand Management by Statistics and who care about the subject of Scientology.

By: Martin Padfield

Martin Padfield — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:27:59 +0000

In reply to Cooper Kessel.

It would appear it is now firm unalterable POLICY not just for the “Church” but also Scientology-run businesses to disconnect / discriminate against ex-Church members, according to some recent events in the UK. Does anyone have similar experience of this as I am compiling a dossier of evidence? mail martymart47@gmail.com

Delilah – that’s a delightful, if whimsical notion, that The Church would honour its “lifetime” commitment. See what happens here when as a Founding IAS member I try to go to an IAS event…(from 2.30 in the clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNc90VNeQ8E

By: Aquamarine

Aquamarine — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:31:14 +0000

In reply to Thomas Weeks.

God forbid that guys like Arte Maren would need to go out into the world and actually produce a product in order to earn their livings. Could also be that being ex-GO with lots of knowledge of what really happened back in the day that he’s on DM’s payroll – you know, just to keep his mouth shut. Far-fetched, possibly, and I don’t know him but I know other still ins who were ex-GO, now many years public, who have had lots of various intermittent businesses which don’t last or else simply flop, yet still have money to live comfortably.