Hi Roger,Love you Ann.

To Alfo 4ever, Pretty Transparent.Quite amusing,that you seem to feel no one here could possibly have the OT wins & the OT company you keep.Go ahead & give three big hurrahs to Ron.The echoes must be quite deafening to us here who obviously do not understand shit about you & Ron & His Religion. Be well in your travels but watch out for things that go bump in your night.Ann.

Next to your closing invitation to give hurrahs to LRH, my favorite part of your comment is where you talk about the “real” OT’s and how they could “blow your fuses” (whatever that means) if you weren’t in “great shape” (whatever that means).

I, as an Old Timer, have a wider viewpoint earned though blood, sweat and tears, underlined. I can recall with bored amusement how our telephones were tapped by the FBI back then, and how, if we warned the caller to the fact, we were intermediately left with a dead line. Those were the days my friends of great wins and real OTs… AND I MEAN REAL OTs. You had to be in great shape to be around those beings and not blow your fuses. At the same time it was a real privilege to be part and parcel of their operation and an honor to befriend them. From LRH, Yvonne Gillam, Hebber Jensch, Diana Hubbard, Virginia Lang, Richard (Dick) Dorff, Edna Carter, to the first OT7´s and too many more to mention now.

I am therefore in possession of great and valued memories not often available most humans, and I will purposely fall short of describing them. Spelling the yeast of this out, my intention is to call some attention to those who are disrespectful of the wins that many Scientologists have had all along and continue to have as long as there is no entheta present, in or out, of the Church of the Spiritually Kidnapped. There are real wins and imaginary wins and the difference between them is only important to the winner and a “foreigners no trespassing zone”.

I really enjoy reading about those who have awakenings and look down at blind invalidations from those claiming to know without having inspected. I hope though they also come to really know someday. And specially hope the come to know someday what a real spiritual win tastes like… yamy, yamy, mmmm.

And I now give 3 Big Hurrahs to one of the greatest names in the history of mankind, to LRH…!

ML

Alfo

Hi IYawnalot, A very good question one which I still do not know the answer for.How do we wake up those who can’t & won’t see? In my case beatings,& no food & all sorts of make wrong lies spread about me as a spy and most degraded being did the wake up for me,but each case is different.If all that had not happened terrible as it was & devastating to my belief in Ron & SO,Iwould be dead now or so very sick the SO would have taken me for a drive out beyond Hemet & dumped me by the side of the road as trash.Now I think about members my age over 60 in the SO,does it not ever frighten them deeply if their bodies & minds start to fail? I know they believe they are at total cause & if those things happen it is because of their o/ws but the sight & thought of an SO Old Age Home is very unpleasant & terrifying to me.How do they think they will be treated with the use of Ron’s Tech now run by David Miscavige?Thank you for a thought provoking post.Ann.

Hahahaha!
What AnnB. said!

I concur!

Yes, both are greedy and completely corrupt, but Creflo Dollar’s “gospel of wealth” promises followers an abundance of Earthly ($$$) rewards, along with a wonderful eternity of course…while CoS says that perfect eternity for all mankind depends on followers giving every cent they have, CoS is actually way WORSE!!

Not quite. Scientology takes money and uses some of it to build and sell the illusion of expansion, thereby justifying the call for more new money. It’s money in, illusion out, so it’s not so different from a Ponzi, where the money out also equals the illusion of return on investment.