I don’t know for sure Peacemaker. I can only draw conclusions based on his KNOWN activities. That tells me he doesn’t take it seriously enough to take any time or effort doing the bridge. I HIGHLY doubt that he would let it slip to someone like Tom that he doesn’t believe in the scam. Frankly, that would be a stupid move on his part.

That would be the senior piece of evidence.

Mike W., Tom Devocht was one of those who reported Miscavige believing in BTs, so that’s relatively recent. I still think it’s plausible, and possible, that Miscavige believes that some elements of the “tech” apply and are useful to “big beings” like him, and in keeping with that does some self-auditing on a basis probably quite different than what is delivered to others.

The whole basis of Scientology, and of the OTO that Hubbard obviously borrowed from liberally, is that its teachings and practices are revealed in levels or gradients, and what is trained on one level may be treated quite differently or even essentially dismissed on a higher one. This goes against our accepted norms that religious leaders have the same faith as their followers, and reveal what they actually believe and practice.

It’s virtually impossible to gauge just what Miscavige believes. Regardless, I think it is important to realize that he’s probably completely invested in the CofS on one level or another and in keeping the game going, and not just an opportunist who’s going to take the money and run if the going gets tough.

I just think David Miscavige lives in his own little world/bubble, and is probable that he is just as delusional as Hubbard. He lives within the confines of how Scientology has been set up by both Hubbard and himself. Either way he’s in his own prison whether he realizes it or not. And it creates hell for others. To the point, where a person just can’t take it anymore and leaves. It’s harder for Miscavige to get out. Even if he knows the truth or not, or knows of partial truths, he’s stuck. And he’ll drag everyone with him until they have had enough and leave, or stay out of fear of the unknown, losing family and friends, or fear of being duped and having to admit it. Add in the fact DM has all the perks power has to offer. Why give that up? I think he’s damned either way. Admit it’s all been a lie and gets thrown into jail. Or keeps up the charade until it all falls apart, and still ends up in jail. Worse case scenario in each. Either way he’s going to do what he can just to KSW.

kemist there was one language that was about as fast as assembler. It was called Forth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_(programming_language)

An amazing language. In the 70’s it was used for real time industrial controls. Although you could make anything with it.

Peace, I didn’t mean to make it seem like he never was a true believer. Yes, he did at one time believe in BT’s. But that probably washed away after he found out about Hubbard never being able to finish 7 and how psycho he was at the end. He knows OT 8 was a complete bust. He knows LRH lied about any higher OT levels. He himself doesn’t want any more bridge. So, the current evidence is that he doesn’t believe it is worth the time & effort to do the Bridge. Either side of it even though Hubbard said training is at least 50% of the gains

Pretty damning evidence since he could get auditing and training if he wanted it for free.

Okay…thank you Mr Rinder! So sorry to misspell your name before. Your information is extremely helpful. It’s amazing to me how much Scio’s are able to influence non Scio’s with the drop of a penny. We are discovering the influence of non Scio’s in the judicial/legal/law enforcement/cps/non profits/neighbors/family members and on and on. I see now even, Gov Abbott of TX being influenced. Amazing how this happens. Thank you again. .

we had such high hopes and expectations. We believed in the goodness.

Thank you, for all you do, Mike Rinder! You and Leah Remini are a great team and so looking forward to Season II of Aftermath! Scientology is practising spiritual terrorism, masquerading as a religion! So glad you saw the light and left!

Mike W., I doubt that Miscavige is a Scientologist in the way that CofS members view it. But there are several convincing accounts that he was originally a Hubbard loyalist, and there are also a couple of reliable reports that he at least believes in body thetans (BTs) – those points need to be logically explained, or convincingly dismissed.

I think that Hubbard self-audited because he believed that it did help increase his personal freedom from limitations, and his freedom to act, though that he practiced something different from what he taught – quite typically (though he also seems to have allowed himself to be audited, at points where he felt the need for others’ help). I also suspect that he may have known that the space-opera “incidents” were really his own “case” (as many Scientologists seem to conclude) though he played it out otherwise, and ended up auditing his BTs (which may have been just artifacts of his drug abuse and/or psychosis) until he was actually worse off. And I think it’s likely that Miscavige does something similar, self-auditing in some private style for “big beings” different from the auditing that Scientologists receive in the CofS, and he might well not have the interest in running “space opera” incidents that Hubbard did. If, for instance, L. Ron “Nibs” Hubbard, Jr., was at all correct in what he said about how his father trained him, Miscavige might either have been trained that way, picked it up from observing Hubbard, or deduced it (or at least thinks he did) from reading materials that Hubbard left behind.

I think that at least the general notions that Miscavige believes Scientology to be a game, but also believes in some of the tech and maybe even still reveres Hubbard, are consistent with a lot of the evidence and explain the things that otherwise seem illogical. And that’s the makings of a good theory.