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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15766</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15764&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

This all being said, the IAS card requirement may put an end to Event Attendance sans sufficient Kool-Aid inebriation.  If that becomes the case I shall content myself with ending off on a huge win Event-wise, having heard all about the Portland Event , and others before it, right here on this blog. Yes,  if it turns out that I&#039;ve already &quot;attended&quot; my last Scientology Event,  &quot;Thanks for the memories&quot;, Mike :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15764">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>This all being said, the IAS card requirement may put an end to Event Attendance sans sufficient Kool-Aid inebriation.  If that becomes the case I shall content myself with ending off on a huge win Event-wise, having heard all about the Portland Event , and others before it, right here on this blog. Yes,  if it turns out that I&#8217;ve already &#8220;attended&#8221; my last Scientology Event,  &#8220;Thanks for the memories&#8221;, Mike 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15764</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15760&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

And, I&#039;d like to add that I probably wouldn&#039;t be let in, despite my IAS &quot;Status&quot; because I&#039;m considered disaffected by my org.  But, no worries, because I&#039;ve been able to enjoy these events like I never did before, from the comfort of my own home, thanks to Mike Rinder and his intrepid Special Correspondents.  See the way the flows work?  Reverse Vector much? LOL!  

Never before have I so looked forward to a Scientology Event!   Thank you, Mike and SCs!!  

OSA, if you&#039;re reading, you really should thank MIke for this because I&#039;ve gone from loathing to loving these things.  Itsa miracle, no kidding!]]></description>
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<p>And, I&#8217;d like to add that I probably wouldn&#8217;t be let in, despite my IAS &#8220;Status&#8221; because I&#8217;m considered disaffected by my org.  But, no worries, because I&#8217;ve been able to enjoy these events like I never did before, from the comfort of my own home, thanks to Mike Rinder and his intrepid Special Correspondents.  See the way the flows work?  Reverse Vector much? LOL!  </p>
<p>Never before have I so looked forward to a Scientology Event!   Thank you, Mike and SCs!!  </p>
<p>OSA, if you&#8217;re reading, you really should thank MIke for this because I&#8217;ve gone from loathing to loving these things.  Itsa miracle, no kidding!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 22:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think someone already made this comment already but it bears repeating: As regards event attendance, the emphasis now is on keeping people OUT. Shades of &quot;Desire, Enforce, Inhibit&quot;, no?  I read that originally people enjoyed events and wanted to attend because they were fun.  (I personally don&#039;t recall events ever being really FUN, but back when I got in (mid-80s) they were OK, tolerably OK.) Then, in the early 90s, they began to be enforced. Pressure to attend became increasingly intense.  (This is when I began to LOATHE events, avoiding them whenever possible.) When I withdrew (I&#039;m under the radar), events were being incredibly enforced.  Now, apparently, they are in inhibit-mode, worrying about letting in the wrong people!!  Mike and everyone, this is really funny, no?  The DEI Scale in action, in the laboratory of life!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think someone already made this comment already but it bears repeating: As regards event attendance, the emphasis now is on keeping people OUT. Shades of &#8220;Desire, Enforce, Inhibit&#8221;, no?  I read that originally people enjoyed events and wanted to attend because they were fun.  (I personally don&#8217;t recall events ever being really FUN, but back when I got in (mid-80s) they were OK, tolerably OK.) Then, in the early 90s, they began to be enforced. Pressure to attend became increasingly intense.  (This is when I began to LOATHE events, avoiding them whenever possible.) When I withdrew (I&#8217;m under the radar), events were being incredibly enforced.  Now, apparently, they are in inhibit-mode, worrying about letting in the wrong people!!  Mike and everyone, this is really funny, no?  The DEI Scale in action, in the laboratory of life!</p>
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		By: Tony DePhillips		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony DePhillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15480&quot;&gt;Tony DePhillips&lt;/a&gt;.

By the way, you said &quot;I hate that word&quot;. I assumed the word you were talking about was Scilon, so I changed it to &quot;Scientologist&quot; and then you still object. I can give my views on religions still in this country. It&#039;s called freedom of speech.  If I said that Christians killed more people than they saved, would you get indignant about that too?  If so, then the Taliban is hiring.
 My original intention for posting this quote was more directed at the cult and their attempts to create an alternate reality in which to be relevant.  I think it is funny on many levels personally.  
Part of the cult mentality is to not be able to confront opposing views or derogatory views about them. Or to try to use force to get people to obey. You can&#039;t keep running away to find a place that is &quot;safe&quot;. You just have to confront and communicate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15480">Tony DePhillips</a>.</p>
<p>By the way, you said &#8220;I hate that word&#8221;. I assumed the word you were talking about was Scilon, so I changed it to &#8220;Scientologist&#8221; and then you still object. I can give my views on religions still in this country. It&#8217;s called freedom of speech.  If I said that Christians killed more people than they saved, would you get indignant about that too?  If so, then the Taliban is hiring.<br />
 My original intention for posting this quote was more directed at the cult and their attempts to create an alternate reality in which to be relevant.  I think it is funny on many levels personally.<br />
Part of the cult mentality is to not be able to confront opposing views or derogatory views about them. Or to try to use force to get people to obey. You can&#8217;t keep running away to find a place that is &#8220;safe&#8221;. You just have to confront and communicate.</p>
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		By: Tony DePhillips		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony DePhillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2013 17:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15302&quot;&gt;Tony DePhillips&lt;/a&gt;.

Ronnie you need to stop taking yourself so serious.]]></description>
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<p>Ronnie you need to stop taking yourself so serious.</p>
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		By: calvin b. duffield		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[calvin b. duffield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15375&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.

Ronnie, remember the slogan, by LRH: &quot;Scientology is here to rescue you.&quot;? I have something from the Tech dictionary for ya, also from the Ol&#039; man. --- HUMOR:  humor is rejection. The ability to reject. The ability to throw something away. That is humor. 
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 It took me a long time to take that concept on board. A full 64 years, bro! I learned it by observing the attitude of a total non-scientologist. He lets nothing get under his skin, but instead, uses the opportunity to find humor in it!  Useful datum? Well, it helped we turn my old habit of &quot;seriousness&quot; (inflow) into the outflow mentioned above. In my case it hit me with a rude awakening! I&#039;m now very glad it did --- others too, evidently :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15375">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>Ronnie, remember the slogan, by LRH: &#8220;Scientology is here to rescue you.&#8221;? I have something from the Tech dictionary for ya, also from the Ol&#8217; man. &#8212; HUMOR:  humor is rejection. The ability to reject. The ability to throw something away. That is humor.<br />
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 It took me a long time to take that concept on board. A full 64 years, bro! I learned it by observing the attitude of a total non-scientologist. He lets nothing get under his skin, but instead, uses the opportunity to find humor in it!  Useful datum? Well, it helped we turn my old habit of &#8220;seriousness&#8221; (inflow) into the outflow mentioned above. In my case it hit me with a rude awakening! I&#8217;m now very glad it did &#8212; others too, evidently 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Sep 2013 03:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15420&quot;&gt;Cat daddy&lt;/a&gt;.

God, those sets.  I get dizzy and slightly sick just looking at them - all those symbols, scrollwork - its awful, somehow, and I&#039;m not even sure why.]]></description>
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<p>God, those sets.  I get dizzy and slightly sick just looking at them &#8211; all those symbols, scrollwork &#8211; its awful, somehow, and I&#8217;m not even sure why.</p>
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		By: Ronnie Bell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronnie Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15502&quot;&gt;Cat daddy&lt;/a&gt;.

Per the p.r. drivel from the IAS, it&#039;s a stand-alone membership organization that is not corporately connected to the Church of Scientology. It stands to reason then, that one could be excommunicated by the church (separate membership), but still be a member of the IAS. 

This presents a host of conflicts and conundrums. 

If the IAS is a wholly separate corporate entity from the church, then why does the church put on the annual IAS gala (often on their own properties)? 

If a person is no longer a member of the church, but still a paid member of the IAS, how can they be barred from attending any IAS functions? 

If an IAS member is barred from attending an IAS gala, do they have a right to demand redress by those in charge of that membership organization? 

What would the IAS&#039;s official response be, if a few hundred Independent Scientologists were denied entry to an IAS event, and then asked for their money back? 

Would the IAS comply with their wishes and cancel their memberships, along with a refund of their donations -- or would they seek to have the church allow all IAS members to attend their events, regardless of their status with the church?

I&#039;d like to see this put to the test by a few hundred Independent Scientologists. I think I see grounds for a class action lawsuit, if the church and the IAS mishandled it (which of course, they would).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15502">Cat daddy</a>.</p>
<p>Per the p.r. drivel from the IAS, it&#8217;s a stand-alone membership organization that is not corporately connected to the Church of Scientology. It stands to reason then, that one could be excommunicated by the church (separate membership), but still be a member of the IAS. </p>
<p>This presents a host of conflicts and conundrums. </p>
<p>If the IAS is a wholly separate corporate entity from the church, then why does the church put on the annual IAS gala (often on their own properties)? </p>
<p>If a person is no longer a member of the church, but still a paid member of the IAS, how can they be barred from attending any IAS functions? </p>
<p>If an IAS member is barred from attending an IAS gala, do they have a right to demand redress by those in charge of that membership organization? </p>
<p>What would the IAS&#8217;s official response be, if a few hundred Independent Scientologists were denied entry to an IAS event, and then asked for their money back? </p>
<p>Would the IAS comply with their wishes and cancel their memberships, along with a refund of their donations &#8212; or would they seek to have the church allow all IAS members to attend their events, regardless of their status with the church?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see this put to the test by a few hundred Independent Scientologists. I think I see grounds for a class action lawsuit, if the church and the IAS mishandled it (which of course, they would).</p>
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		By: Ronnie Bell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronnie Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 23:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/big-brother-invites-you-to-attend/#comment-15480&quot;&gt;Tony DePhillips&lt;/a&gt;.

Ser-fac much? I told you that I feel offended by what I consider to be a religious slur. You want to enforce that reality on me anyway? I thought I left that sort of crap behind in the church.]]></description>
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<p>Ser-fac much? I told you that I feel offended by what I consider to be a religious slur. You want to enforce that reality on me anyway? I thought I left that sort of crap behind in the church.</p>
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		By: Markthehungarian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markthehungarian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 14:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;As you know, the IAS is the official membership of the Church of
Scientology International and churches offer members benefits such
as lower requested donations for auditing and training and
discounts on books and materials.&quot;

I love the phrase &quot;requested donation,&quot; as if parishioners had a choice as to how much to pay. Surely someone needs to word clear that asap. 

I think the rest of the world would call it a fee, price or cost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As you know, the IAS is the official membership of the Church of<br />
Scientology International and churches offer members benefits such<br />
as lower requested donations for auditing and training and<br />
discounts on books and materials.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love the phrase &#8220;requested donation,&#8221; as if parishioners had a choice as to how much to pay. Surely someone needs to word clear that asap. </p>
<p>I think the rest of the world would call it a fee, price or cost.</p>
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