Hi Brian, do you think Likki just perished while homeless and insane somewhere in LA?

Did you find it hopeless to try to get her professional psychiatric help before she just slipped away?

I agree with all you say. I commented above to you because, in my mind, accepting being wrong is the essence of humility. So I felt that area was addressed.

But hey, we can always wave a happy flag for humility for sure. Humility is probably one of the most important human and spiritual characteristics.

The horrors of the world with blood thirsty egomaniacs certainly exits in the absence of humility.

Thank you for spotlighting this beautiful virtue. We can never get enough of it.

Brian, I wanted to elaborate on a couple of points that I don’t necessarily think are in contradiction. Looking at Hubbard’s Scientology, and the current outbreak of pseudo-science and conspiracy theorizing, I think watching out for lack of humility, and excessive ego involvement, is an important check and balance both for thinkers, and for those considering thoughts others are promoting.

And, I meant to say originally, thanks for your thoughtful contributions.

Or maybe it’s just his twin brother?

“The original thinker always clashes with fixed ideas; including their own; especially their own.”

“For the original thinker does not mind being wrong. Acceptance of being wrong is the recognition of more original thought. Finding truth; not being right, is the holy grail of original thought.”

“I THOUGHT I WAS WRONG ONCE BUT I WAS MISTAKEN”

From Socrates (400BC ) this War is on.

Today the torch bearer includes: Mental Health professionals ( Psychiatrist and psychologist like Steve Hanson)

University scholars ( Dr Kent University of Calgary , Touretzky of Carnegie University, Dr Jim Beverly of Tyndale University ) ,

journalists and authors ( Richard Behr , Tony Ortega , Paulet Cooper , Russell Miller, , Lawrence Wright ) and

individuals who were victims like yourself, Jon Atach , Chris Sheldon, Tory Magoo , Mark Bunker , Jessie Prince and Mark Headley and last but not yet least the University Youth of Europe and North America who started Anonymous movement.

If we look closely, we see one thing common, Universities were the Hub of free thinkers be it Scholars or students or Alimni.

With out being philosophical let me make it more simple to understood.
Universities gives us tools to analyze thoughts , beliefs and behavior known as Research .

We ourselves in our daily activities do similar activity. For example comparing flyers of various supermarkets for price matching or to buy car , visiting car show rooms and doing test drives ,

It’s so important that all.the main stream religion started Universities . We find Universities established by Jews ,Christians ,Muslims, Hindus ,Buddhists and Sikhs around the world. That’s why they evolved and survived over 3000 years.

If you want to see cultist scared to death, mention the word University.

So what so unique about University Research . It has two components Secondary Research and Primary research .
Secondary Research is done by going through already published literatures. The data, assumptions and findings are compared to draw conclusion . This all done by maintaining objectivity , the best example is the research done by Lawerence Wright for report on Scientology published in NewYorker magazine in 2011, mentioned in his interview

Primary Researh is one step.ahead , when a universtiy scholar do Research by interviews, visiting places, gathering data span over different time zone and geography..

University Research are more extensive supported by mathematical models to maintain objectivity and impartiality.

Now you know ,what Cults do not want to know.They are the by product of obsession of previous decades, like cold War era, and dies few decades later with on going evolutions in Social ,political and economic sphere.

So I would guess I would add, if not implicit in openness to critique, that it should also be humble – and, especially, non-egotistical if you want to see it more in a humanistic or spiritual vein.