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		By: Still on your side		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47949</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Still on your side]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought Manuela Oliveira was supposed to be dancing for Scientology media? What happened to that promise?  I hope the fact that she has posted youtube dance videos as recently as April 2014, means that she has moved on. In one recent comment she implies she is back teaching dance in Australia. At any rate, I wish her much luck and hope her sojourn in the church did not (or does not) hurt her career; a dancer has only a limited number of years before aging limits her/his capabilities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Manuela Oliveira was supposed to be dancing for Scientology media? What happened to that promise?  I hope the fact that she has posted youtube dance videos as recently as April 2014, means that she has moved on. In one recent comment she implies she is back teaching dance in Australia. At any rate, I wish her much luck and hope her sojourn in the church did not (or does not) hurt her career; a dancer has only a limited number of years before aging limits her/his capabilities.</p>
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		By: The Last Commodore		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47882</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Last Commodore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 22:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47631&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Rick, Galaxy Press is actually an LLC that is a subsidiary of Author Services -- they have their own staff who are separate from ASI and from what some GP staff told me, it may actually be legally independent of ASI rather than an actual subsidiary (though either way ASI of course is the direct senior of GP). The Wikipedia article on Galaxy Press is quite wrong on the DBA claim. I don&#039;t know where they came up with that since it&#039;s been an LLC from the beginning.

Curious bit of trivia: the registered agent for GP is Sherman Lenske, who of course most of you know incorporated CST but a couple years later also incorporated a company called &quot;Galaxy Productions, Inc&quot; that didn&#039;t seem to ever produce anything according to a Google search. Would be interesting if anyone here knows what that was all about, some kind of film production company or something else?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47631">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Rick, Galaxy Press is actually an LLC that is a subsidiary of Author Services &#8212; they have their own staff who are separate from ASI and from what some GP staff told me, it may actually be legally independent of ASI rather than an actual subsidiary (though either way ASI of course is the direct senior of GP). The Wikipedia article on Galaxy Press is quite wrong on the DBA claim. I don&#8217;t know where they came up with that since it&#8217;s been an LLC from the beginning.</p>
<p>Curious bit of trivia: the registered agent for GP is Sherman Lenske, who of course most of you know incorporated CST but a couple years later also incorporated a company called &#8220;Galaxy Productions, Inc&#8221; that didn&#8217;t seem to ever produce anything according to a Google search. Would be interesting if anyone here knows what that was all about, some kind of film production company or something else?</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47823</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 04:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We also have a new status “Founding Ideal Org Member.” To become a “Founding Ideal Org Member” you need to make a donation of $5000 or become an Alumni...&quot;

Sigh.  I&#039;m not much of anybody, really, but I have a diploma and a degree from schools that are well-known and fairly exclusive.  I am also in a profession that is considered somewhat desirable (I&#039;m in the creative arts).  I had to work my ass off for them, and I admit that I&#039;m proud to say I&#039;m from those schools and that I do what I do.  The point here isn&#039;t what schools or where I work, but that I had to *earn* such &quot;status&quot; as I have.  And it was pretty much accidental - I didn&#039;t go there for any kind of status; it&#039;s where my muse led me and later it became &quot;cool.&quot;

Again, I&#039;m not some big shot, but I earned some bragging rights even if I don&#039;t brag on them - well, not much.  :-)  But it took *years* of dedication and real work and having no idea where I&#039;d end up.  

But this is bullshit.  Promising phony bragging rights (&quot;I&#039;m an Ideal Org Alumni&quot; or &quot;Founding What-the-Fuck-Ever&quot;) for a lousy $5,000.00 is just silly.  Nobody&#039;s heard of that, and nobody gives a shit except for the reg to whom you hand the money.  And then only until 2pm this Thursday.  At 2:01, you are shit again.

Gus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We also have a new status “Founding Ideal Org Member.” To become a “Founding Ideal Org Member” you need to make a donation of $5000 or become an Alumni&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Sigh.  I&#8217;m not much of anybody, really, but I have a diploma and a degree from schools that are well-known and fairly exclusive.  I am also in a profession that is considered somewhat desirable (I&#8217;m in the creative arts).  I had to work my ass off for them, and I admit that I&#8217;m proud to say I&#8217;m from those schools and that I do what I do.  The point here isn&#8217;t what schools or where I work, but that I had to *earn* such &#8220;status&#8221; as I have.  And it was pretty much accidental &#8211; I didn&#8217;t go there for any kind of status; it&#8217;s where my muse led me and later it became &#8220;cool.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not some big shot, but I earned some bragging rights even if I don&#8217;t brag on them &#8211; well, not much.  🙂  But it took *years* of dedication and real work and having no idea where I&#8217;d end up.  </p>
<p>But this is bullshit.  Promising phony bragging rights (&#8220;I&#8217;m an Ideal Org Alumni&#8221; or &#8220;Founding What-the-Fuck-Ever&#8221;) for a lousy $5,000.00 is just silly.  Nobody&#8217;s heard of that, and nobody gives a shit except for the reg to whom you hand the money.  And then only until 2pm this Thursday.  At 2:01, you are shit again.</p>
<p>Gus</p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47817</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 02:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47707&quot;&gt;joel silver&lt;/a&gt;.

As far as I can tell, their alteration proposal was refused January of 2013, and there are no other applications on file. There are severe penalties for work without a permit. So the renovation claim is complete junk. There have been no sigificant changes in a year and a half.

http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Toronto_Org]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47707">joel silver</a>.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, their alteration proposal was refused January of 2013, and there are no other applications on file. There are severe penalties for work without a permit. So the renovation claim is complete junk. There have been no sigificant changes in a year and a half.</p>
<p><a href="http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Toronto_Org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Toronto_Org</a></p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 02:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most accounts of the vault contents are stainless steel plates in titanium boxes, but every account varies slightly. Is it possible that no one is too sure because there were really only enough made for a quick tour until DM becomes chairman of the bored?

http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Scientology_vaults]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most accounts of the vault contents are stainless steel plates in titanium boxes, but every account varies slightly. Is it possible that no one is too sure because there were really only enough made for a quick tour until DM becomes chairman of the bored?</p>
<p><a href="http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Scientology_vaults" rel="nofollow ugc">http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Scientology_vaults</a></p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 01:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47631&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

How can Galaxy distance themselves from Scientology Inc? It&#039;s a DBA alias for Author Services Inc, which is wholly owned by Church of Spiritual Technology. It&#039;s just more inept efforts at concealment, and about as effective as not wearing their SO uniforms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47631">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>How can Galaxy distance themselves from Scientology Inc? It&#8217;s a DBA alias for Author Services Inc, which is wholly owned by Church of Spiritual Technology. It&#8217;s just more inept efforts at concealment, and about as effective as not wearing their SO uniforms.</p>
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		By: Jon H		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47801</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 21:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47698&quot;&gt;Smokey&lt;/a&gt;.

KCET still exists, so presumably they&#039;re still using their license. Scientology only bought their studio. KCET moved to a new facility.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47698">Smokey</a>.</p>
<p>KCET still exists, so presumably they&#8217;re still using their license. Scientology only bought their studio. KCET moved to a new facility.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47770</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 16:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47641&quot;&gt;Philip Arlington&lt;/a&gt;.

P.A. -- I think it has become evident, through the thousands of very insightful posts here and elsewhere, that what passes for SCN today, has little or nothing to do with what SCN actually is. I believe it is also fairly self-evident, that those who &quot;heaved mightily&quot; years ago to raise SCN up into a viable range (spiritually, physically and financially) have long ago left SCN or were unceremoniously asked to leave, because they could actually remember what it was like to be a Scientologist.

What you see and read here, in the form of Church flyers, edicts, emails and declarations, are merely facsimiles of facsimiles, so far removed from truth and reality as to render themselves useless in communicating anything Scientological. If you believe there is anything original in any of these things, then you too my friend have been bitten by the bug of gullibility.

Having lived and worked around the original Orgs and staff, here in LA in the early 70s, I still remember the fervor and dedication those people manifested every day. As a result of that I find it difficult to cast stones at these people, because I can see/feel the pain of indecision and confusion that they are going through.

Are they behaving badly -- yes. Are they blinded by their own plight, their own refusal or inability to see the changes that have taken place -- yes.  But they are not inherently bad people.

That doesn&#039;t make what they do right or excusable. It just makes them human and it seems far more likely that they will eventually come to their senses with a little compassion and understanding. They&#039;re already getting a lifetime&#039;s worth of grief and antagonism and make wrong by continuing to pursuit an old goal they seem incapable of letting go of.

Odd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47641">Philip Arlington</a>.</p>
<p>P.A. &#8212; I think it has become evident, through the thousands of very insightful posts here and elsewhere, that what passes for SCN today, has little or nothing to do with what SCN actually is. I believe it is also fairly self-evident, that those who &#8220;heaved mightily&#8221; years ago to raise SCN up into a viable range (spiritually, physically and financially) have long ago left SCN or were unceremoniously asked to leave, because they could actually remember what it was like to be a Scientologist.</p>
<p>What you see and read here, in the form of Church flyers, edicts, emails and declarations, are merely facsimiles of facsimiles, so far removed from truth and reality as to render themselves useless in communicating anything Scientological. If you believe there is anything original in any of these things, then you too my friend have been bitten by the bug of gullibility.</p>
<p>Having lived and worked around the original Orgs and staff, here in LA in the early 70s, I still remember the fervor and dedication those people manifested every day. As a result of that I find it difficult to cast stones at these people, because I can see/feel the pain of indecision and confusion that they are going through.</p>
<p>Are they behaving badly &#8212; yes. Are they blinded by their own plight, their own refusal or inability to see the changes that have taken place &#8212; yes.  But they are not inherently bad people.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t make what they do right or excusable. It just makes them human and it seems far more likely that they will eventually come to their senses with a little compassion and understanding. They&#8217;re already getting a lifetime&#8217;s worth of grief and antagonism and make wrong by continuing to pursuit an old goal they seem incapable of letting go of.</p>
<p>Odd</p>
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		By: richardgrant		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47738</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 12:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hallie Jane, thank you for this heartfelt comment. I believe you&#039;re speaking for thousands of staffers and former staffers whose passions and energies have been sapped with no regard for their well-being — or even their existence, except as obedient, interchangeable instruments for exerting the will of Dear Leader. How these people keep going every day is a mystery to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallie Jane, thank you for this heartfelt comment. I believe you&#8217;re speaking for thousands of staffers and former staffers whose passions and energies have been sapped with no regard for their well-being — or even their existence, except as obedient, interchangeable instruments for exerting the will of Dear Leader. How these people keep going every day is a mystery to me.</p>
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		By: Indie8million@hushmail.com		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/bs-ideal-orgs/#comment-47736</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Indie8million@hushmail.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 09:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just gotta say one thing before I read what everybody said,

&quot;Only an Ideal Org will be able to handle the floods of people coming in for services.&quot;

I can&#039;t help but see the vision of all of the &quot;Ideal&quot; staff at all of the &quot;Ideal Orgs&quot; (cut between Inglewood, LA ORG, etc., etc., ) nervously and impatiently checking their ideal watches, waiting for these, &quot;floods of people coming in for services.&quot;

I&#039;m sorry to say that I have news for those ideal staff members. &quot;There are no flood warnings for today or any time soon. Move along, lady. No flood&#039;s gonna happen here.&quot;

How&#039;s that for a severe reality adjustment? Well, for them anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just gotta say one thing before I read what everybody said,</p>
<p>&#8220;Only an Ideal Org will be able to handle the floods of people coming in for services.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but see the vision of all of the &#8220;Ideal&#8221; staff at all of the &#8220;Ideal Orgs&#8221; (cut between Inglewood, LA ORG, etc., etc., ) nervously and impatiently checking their ideal watches, waiting for these, &#8220;floods of people coming in for services.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say that I have news for those ideal staff members. &#8220;There are no flood warnings for today or any time soon. Move along, lady. No flood&#8217;s gonna happen here.&#8221;</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for a severe reality adjustment? Well, for them anyway.</p>
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