Hi, I got stuck on OT II. Can you write me what the EP is on OT II? I’m very curious.

Hi, what you write is very interesting. I got stuck on OT II. Can you write me what the EP is on OT II? I’m very curious.

I just thought that LRH reference about “mysterious influences” added something new to the discussion. But okay, it’s your blog.

Actually Foolproof, the way to convince us of your position is to refute his idea that “we create BTs” with another idea; yours.

By attacking him as a person you simply reveal that you are protecting a belief and are bankrupt as far as ideas are concerned.

Your reply was ad hominem.

It was just going on toooooooooo long. As I said, you should start your own blog.

Well, L Ron Thompson is now offering himself as a philosopher who has invented a science of the mind and life and written hundreds of books on it – it’s quite simple then – the NOTs case doesn’t exist. Now this is a very simple philosophy, simply put! I think he has the real answers, don’t you?

Mike, did my reply to Foremost get deleted? If so, what was the problem?

You wrote: “BT’s are ‘theta’ and theta has no mass, wavelength, location etc etc. How does a physical universe energy interact with a BT?”

I would say it interacts with the BT’s bank – which is actual physical energy – and the bank then acts on the BT.

A BT is no different from you — he’s merely in a particular lower condition, awareness, etc. as long as he is in a state of being a BT — obliviously stuck to you yourself and/or the body. You wake him up, make him leave, maybe he’ll go off and find his own body, maybe he’ll fall asleep again and coast off into another body/object, etc. NOTs is about removing a BT and a BT’s bank influence off you. Minimally gets him off your tactile line.

LRH talks about how you have messed yourself through your trek through eternity, and from that I deduct that many of the BTs/CLs you deal with have been with you for a very long time, and not necessarily exclusive to, or bound to this lifetime body only.

So I’m not discussing scientific proof here, I’m making deductions from the NOTs series and whatever I know and suspect. I really can’t be bothered getting involved in silly discussions as to why you can’t measure a thetan in terms of millimeters, why you can’t see him through a microscope and why his excrement is never found in a petry dish.

How does a physical universe energy interact with a BT? Are they impacted by gamma rays too? X Rays? Or is electricity the only physical thing that somehow crosses over from MEST to theta?

I could see how blowing BTs with electric shock could possibly work … so again, I can see it based on what I know about the NOTs series. So here we go:

LRH is a more capable being than the BTs who don’t want to leave or who keeping coming back. Whether you yourself, or a BT, you are connected to each other by tactile based on NOTs theory and therefore the BT would experience any physical shock the same as you.

I could also suppose that BT who refuses to leave, or can’t leave, or doesn’t want to leave could be zapped so hard that he goes into shock/unconsciousness allowing LRH to boot him off with “Theta Hand” technique even while LRH himself also experienced the same shock.

All that being said, I don’t give 2 hoots whether BTs/CLs exist or not, or whether LRHs explanations are correct or not. I crack open my meter, locate a read, blow it by standard and indicated procedures, and I feel great after 20 minutes. At the end of the day, after 6 sessions, I feel like a thousand bucks, after 3 years, like a million bucks. I don’t have the CO$ breathing over my shoulder, I don’t have to defend anything, but I do have the inherent purpose to have others experience the same gains I have received.