Good comments, Foolproof and Pepper. I get what you’re saying. Another irony to all this is that I just have to shake my head when I read some public gave Meritorious Magnificent or some very large amount of money to the IAS and then a month later they are declared by Davie. So how did this person go all the way up the Bridge, make it on to and through OT VIII, give all this money to the IAS and now and only now does someone in the church cognite that they are an SP? Seems if they were a true SP, it would have been spotted much earlier, like at ARC SW or something. Just another indicator of the insanity that goes on where now even real SP’s can’t be spotted cuz too many innocents are being labelled as SP’s.

And you are right, Foolproof, that we don’t need to hang on to old statuses, especially when those statuses went to pay for lawsuits and Squirrel Busters to harrass Marty and to do other Black Ops.

as long as they’re not shipped off to the Damnation Navy. IMHO

Breppen, a lot of them haven’t ‘herd’ you unfortunately.

Hi Cindy. Well, as I say I am not criticizing the people that do this -they donated their money in the trust that it would be used well and that is somewhat praiseworthy of course. However I am trying to change “latter day” Scientologist’s perceptions that the idea that having donated to the IAS or Idle Orgs scam is (still) somehow praiseworthy and it is this and only this idea that I am pointing out should be played down. An analogy would be the German industrialists in the 1930s that donated money to the Nazi party only to find out their money was being used eventually to wage war and genocide. You don’t see the Krupps family publicizing how much they gave the Nazis. The other parts of their messages I have no problem with as they have woken up and seen the state of the ravaged Churches but I don’t think that people should be impressed by how much money they have donated to these scams.

Cindy – I agree. These stories carry a lot of weight with me too. Obviously a shift in viewpoint occurred when someone wakes up and realizes all the money they were donating is for naught. I’m always interested to learn about how that occurred with them.

Also, ex-staff and SO members at all levels within the organization are of particular interest to me. Their stories as well resonate truth and validate my own observations as a public. This has helped me a lot.

People who were reg’s who told their stories like Hy Levy and Sindy Fagen are also quite valuable to the public and I appreciate them too.

People may feel remorse or embarrassment over the actions taken while being connected to the RCS but communicating about it publicly is so helpful to others. They should be proud of getting their message out there.

“We are no more superior to them. We just have the data now that is being withheld from them.”

Beautifully stated, Alanzo. True data has bottlenecked Div 6. No-one in their right mind would make an informed choice to come into Scientology. Miscavige handles this by bottling up His Div 2, but the same truths which prevent new people from coming in are what will be emptying his Div 2. .

The tone and content are consistent with the same pen. Is some pr person chained to the table? The template for ‘attesting’ to case gain is the one and only ‘sacrament’ left to RCS.

In the old days (while Hubbard was alive) moving up the bridge and selling services was how ‘status’ was determined. Now if you are starting out again for the 3rd time, you can regain past OTness by sending a nice check to IAS and then spending a month or so at the expensive Super Powerz complex. How many tracks are there in the CO$ these days? How many ways of OTness?