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		By: Maria McCartan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[the trolls come out as soon as u mention the clearwater council seat elections, what does that say to you? bubble bubble]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the trolls come out as soon as u mention the clearwater council seat elections, what does that say to you? bubble bubble</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456417</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 22:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456383&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re welcome, PeaceMaker.  Great ideas you&#039;ve got.    I want to  &quot;contribute to that motion&quot;.   And I think I will.  Oh, and &quot;in a new unit of time&quot; I&#039;ve once more &quot;obnosed&quot;  that YOUR handle has a capital &quot;M&quot; , while recalling that OSA-Troll-Pretending-To-Be-You Peacemaker&#039;s did not.  My spelling error now corrected.  Its all in the details :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456383">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, PeaceMaker.  Great ideas you&#8217;ve got.    I want to  &#8220;contribute to that motion&#8221;.   And I think I will.  Oh, and &#8220;in a new unit of time&#8221; I&#8217;ve once more &#8220;obnosed&#8221;  that YOUR handle has a capital &#8220;M&#8221; , while recalling that OSA-Troll-Pretending-To-Be-You Peacemaker&#8217;s did not.  My spelling error now corrected.  Its all in the details 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 20:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456366&quot;&gt;safetyguy&lt;/a&gt;.

Quite right.  But we&#039;re talking to OSA volunteers writing this crap.   Cowed, nervous, possibly doing Liability Conditions, desperate to &quot;strike an effective blow, etc.&quot;, or possibly Sea Org members doing Lowers, fearful of punishment.  None of the above operating states are conducive to clear thinking.  Whether written by public, Cl V staff or Sea Org members, these posts are so obviously phony that my take is that they&#039;re being written by very scared and nervous people following orders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456366">safetyguy</a>.</p>
<p>Quite right.  But we&#8217;re talking to OSA volunteers writing this crap.   Cowed, nervous, possibly doing Liability Conditions, desperate to &#8220;strike an effective blow, etc.&#8221;, or possibly Sea Org members doing Lowers, fearful of punishment.  None of the above operating states are conducive to clear thinking.  Whether written by public, Cl V staff or Sea Org members, these posts are so obviously phony that my take is that they&#8217;re being written by very scared and nervous people following orders.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456260&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Aqua.  When trolls show up I try to think of what they would least likely want to be confronted with or to have lurker readers see, attempting to take the opportunity to rise to the occasion rather than fall for their bait.  

I take it as a chance to work on honing my best &quot;elevator pitch&quot; critiques and fact-checks.  You have a good idea there, maybe I&#039;ll use them on some sort of printout when I go visiting (remaining) Scientology locations.  Now I have in mind to put &quot;OBNOSE&quot; (cult lingo for observe the obvious, if I have it right) at the top.

Hey, I even have a listing of what was in the 2009 version of What is Scientology? that I could cross-reference, so there is a &#039;source&#039; they could go to and &#039;check it out for themselves&#039; compared to what is listed on the CofS website now....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456260">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Aqua.  When trolls show up I try to think of what they would least likely want to be confronted with or to have lurker readers see, attempting to take the opportunity to rise to the occasion rather than fall for their bait.  </p>
<p>I take it as a chance to work on honing my best &#8220;elevator pitch&#8221; critiques and fact-checks.  You have a good idea there, maybe I&#8217;ll use them on some sort of printout when I go visiting (remaining) Scientology locations.  Now I have in mind to put &#8220;OBNOSE&#8221; (cult lingo for observe the obvious, if I have it right) at the top.</p>
<p>Hey, I even have a listing of what was in the 2009 version of What is Scientology? that I could cross-reference, so there is a &#8216;source&#8217; they could go to and &#8216;check it out for themselves&#8217; compared to what is listed on the CofS website now&#8230;.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456345&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Those are just in the US, of course .  And it&#039;s the Clearwater mission itself that vanished - despite the increasing concentration of Scientology&#039;s existing membership around the mecca of Flag, so that the only place left for visitors to actually do introductory courses and join the CofS is  over 10 miles from the city in Belleair, showing just how recruiting from outside the bubble has ground to a halt.  

Oh, and that Belleair mission has recently reduced its hours to just weekday afternoons and early evenings, and is no longer even open on weekends.  Is there some overwhelming source of suppression (or truth) in the local environment, that Scientology is unable to confront and handle?

Internationally it&#039;s similarly lost ground and disappeared from many major cities, plus from the entire populous nation of Nigeria, and from Northern Ireland, among others.  Meanwhile there&#039;s nowhere I can find that Scientology has recently gained a new foothold, or actually expanded in terms of number of locations (rather than size of empty buildings) and members.

Why has Scientology crashed and shrunk like that in the last decade?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456345">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Those are just in the US, of course .  And it&#8217;s the Clearwater mission itself that vanished &#8211; despite the increasing concentration of Scientology&#8217;s existing membership around the mecca of Flag, so that the only place left for visitors to actually do introductory courses and join the CofS is  over 10 miles from the city in Belleair, showing just how recruiting from outside the bubble has ground to a halt.  </p>
<p>Oh, and that Belleair mission has recently reduced its hours to just weekday afternoons and early evenings, and is no longer even open on weekends.  Is there some overwhelming source of suppression (or truth) in the local environment, that Scientology is unable to confront and handle?</p>
<p>Internationally it&#8217;s similarly lost ground and disappeared from many major cities, plus from the entire populous nation of Nigeria, and from Northern Ireland, among others.  Meanwhile there&#8217;s nowhere I can find that Scientology has recently gained a new foothold, or actually expanded in terms of number of locations (rather than size of empty buildings) and members.</p>
<p>Why has Scientology crashed and shrunk like that in the last decade?</p>
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		By: safetyguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456266&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

It would be obvious even to the most casual observer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456266">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>It would be obvious even to the most casual observer.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456345</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trolls might ask why in the past decade Scientology has vanished from numerous large or significant cities, and even entire states, besides the loss of half the missions in California.  If not Mike Rinder&#039;s blog, at least in part, what do your masters tell you about why the CofS is undergoing unprecedented shrinkage in number of actual locations, and membership?  (though it does look something like the &quot;mission massacre&quot; days of the early 1980s)

This list of losses probably even misses some that came and went, that I can only find hints of, like Indianapolis - reminding us of another entire state (Indiana, pop. 7 million) where Scientology has vanished:

Colorado Springs
Hartford
Clearwater
Peoria
New Orleans (moved in to back room of mission holders&#039; house)
Charlotte - No longer any presence in North Carolina (pop. 11 million) at all
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Memphis
Milwaukee - No longer any presence in Wisconsin (pop. 6 million) at all]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trolls might ask why in the past decade Scientology has vanished from numerous large or significant cities, and even entire states, besides the loss of half the missions in California.  If not Mike Rinder&#8217;s blog, at least in part, what do your masters tell you about why the CofS is undergoing unprecedented shrinkage in number of actual locations, and membership?  (though it does look something like the &#8220;mission massacre&#8221; days of the early 1980s)</p>
<p>This list of losses probably even misses some that came and went, that I can only find hints of, like Indianapolis &#8211; reminding us of another entire state (Indiana, pop. 7 million) where Scientology has vanished:</p>
<p>Colorado Springs<br />
Hartford<br />
Clearwater<br />
Peoria<br />
New Orleans (moved in to back room of mission holders&#8217; house)<br />
Charlotte &#8211; No longer any presence in North Carolina (pop. 11 million) at all<br />
Cleveland<br />
Pittsburgh<br />
Memphis<br />
Milwaukee &#8211; No longer any presence in Wisconsin (pop. 6 million) at all</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456269</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 05:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-455831&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

LOLOL!  That&#039;s from RB&#039;s comic last week!  Love it!]]></description>
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<p>LOLOL!  That&#8217;s from RB&#8217;s comic last week!  Love it!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456266</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 05:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-455779&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, because they can&#039;t &quot;do nothing&quot;.  They MUST per Hubbard&#039;s policy, &quot;do something about it&quot;.  And the trolls who come on here impersonating our regulars keep getting outed.  First Peacemaker, now KatherineINCali...who&#039;s next?  

OK, C&#039;mon, OSA, why don&#039;t you impersonate me?  It&#039;ll be fun. PLEASE?   I&#039;m INVITING you!

 Call yourself &quot;Aquamurine&quot;...get it?  

Or how about &quot;AquaMarine&quot;?  That&#039;s pretty close, isn&#039;t it?  That&#039;ll fool someone for a bit, won&#039;t it?

Or, if you don&#039;t like those knock offs give me a little time and I&#039;ll think of something you can get away with for a post or two before Mike or someone here catches you and realizes its not me.    

And hey, I won&#039;t rat you out - I promise!  

C&#039;mon, now, it&#039;ll be fun.  Where&#039;s your Spirit of Play?  The Time Is Now.

Much love,
Aqua]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-455779">Fred G. Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, because they can&#8217;t &#8220;do nothing&#8221;.  They MUST per Hubbard&#8217;s policy, &#8220;do something about it&#8221;.  And the trolls who come on here impersonating our regulars keep getting outed.  First Peacemaker, now KatherineINCali&#8230;who&#8217;s next?  </p>
<p>OK, C&#8217;mon, OSA, why don&#8217;t you impersonate me?  It&#8217;ll be fun. PLEASE?   I&#8217;m INVITING you!</p>
<p> Call yourself &#8220;Aquamurine&#8221;&#8230;get it?  </p>
<p>Or how about &#8220;AquaMarine&#8221;?  That&#8217;s pretty close, isn&#8217;t it?  That&#8217;ll fool someone for a bit, won&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Or, if you don&#8217;t like those knock offs give me a little time and I&#8217;ll think of something you can get away with for a post or two before Mike or someone here catches you and realizes its not me.    </p>
<p>And hey, I won&#8217;t rat you out &#8211; I promise!  </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, now, it&#8217;ll be fun.  Where&#8217;s your Spirit of Play?  The Time Is Now.</p>
<p>Much love,<br />
Aqua</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 05:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456000&quot;&gt;KatherineNCali&lt;/a&gt;.

KatherineNCali,

You may have many regrets but sending Mike Rinder money is not one of them, because you&#039;ve never sent him any money.  For the simple reason that you don&#039;t have any money.  You&#039;re OSA.   You&#039;re not our KatherineINCali.  Faker! Liar, liar pants on fire!

 Now, go back and tell your Seniors that you&#039;ll need to post your shit under yet another fake name.  We outed you when you impersonated Peacemaker, remember?  (Was that you?  If so, you&#039;re not too swift at subterfuge are you?)

Hey, here&#039;s a thought:  Why not just be who you are, say what&#039;s on your mind, and stick to the truth?  I daresay you&#039;d be a lot happier - mentally, emotionally and physically.

Much love,
Aqua]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-election-dont-support-scientology/#comment-456000">KatherineNCali</a>.</p>
<p>KatherineNCali,</p>
<p>You may have many regrets but sending Mike Rinder money is not one of them, because you&#8217;ve never sent him any money.  For the simple reason that you don&#8217;t have any money.  You&#8217;re OSA.   You&#8217;re not our KatherineINCali.  Faker! Liar, liar pants on fire!</p>
<p> Now, go back and tell your Seniors that you&#8217;ll need to post your shit under yet another fake name.  We outed you when you impersonated Peacemaker, remember?  (Was that you?  If so, you&#8217;re not too swift at subterfuge are you?)</p>
<p>Hey, here&#8217;s a thought:  Why not just be who you are, say what&#8217;s on your mind, and stick to the truth?  I daresay you&#8217;d be a lot happier &#8211; mentally, emotionally and physically.</p>
<p>Much love,<br />
Aqua</p>
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