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		By: Spike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206768&quot;&gt;Karen#1&lt;/a&gt;.

Karen, that was a very good interview.  Listened to it in full last week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206768">Karen#1</a>.</p>
<p>Karen, that was a very good interview.  Listened to it in full last week.</p>
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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-207043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Komodo Dragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2018 21:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206768&quot;&gt;Karen#1&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, this is an excellent interview with Mike.  I watched it the other night, was going to post the info for it, but you beat me to it.  Mike, you are a true humanitarian, and so glad you left the destructive cult of hate and fear mongering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206768">Karen#1</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, this is an excellent interview with Mike.  I watched it the other night, was going to post the info for it, but you beat me to it.  Mike, you are a true humanitarian, and so glad you left the destructive cult of hate and fear mongering.</p>
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		By: jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206892&quot;&gt;Jere Lull (37 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

I read you, Jere,

It&#039;s their illusion that their delusion is better than anyone else&#039;s;  Or was it:  Their delusion of their illusion is better than anyone else&#039;s.

Whatever.  Their introversion (closed mindedness)  assures that whatever it is that they do, it will NOT resonate well with the physical universe and the some 7 billion human inhabitants thereon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206892">Jere Lull (37 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>I read you, Jere,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s their illusion that their delusion is better than anyone else&#8217;s;  Or was it:  Their delusion of their illusion is better than anyone else&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Whatever.  Their introversion (closed mindedness)  assures that whatever it is that they do, it will NOT resonate well with the physical universe and the some 7 billion human inhabitants thereon.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (37 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2018 01:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206748&quot;&gt;jim&lt;/a&gt;.

As with so much else, SCN believes in its heart of hearts that they&#039;re so smart/powerful/experienced that ANYthing they attempt to do, or even think about, is going to create effects far greater than any mere wog&#039;s, even when said wogs  have real-world training and experience, with demonstrated effectiveness.

It&#039;s a corollary of the &quot;not invented here&quot; syndrome, which gets in the way of progress in the real world.  Otherwise intelligent people fall prey to it all the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206748">jim</a>.</p>
<p>As with so much else, SCN believes in its heart of hearts that they&#8217;re so smart/powerful/experienced that ANYthing they attempt to do, or even think about, is going to create effects far greater than any mere wog&#8217;s, even when said wogs  have real-world training and experience, with demonstrated effectiveness.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a corollary of the &#8220;not invented here&#8221; syndrome, which gets in the way of progress in the real world.  Otherwise intelligent people fall prey to it all the time.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 22:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206826&quot;&gt;Gus Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

Scamology has no members in SoCal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206826">Gus Cox</a>.</p>
<p>Scamology has no members in SoCal.</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, a massive rescue and cleanup effort is underway in Santa Barbara - and where is the &quot;largest relief force on the planet?&quot;  I&#039;ll bet their VM van is still sitting in the parking lot gathering spiderwebs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, a massive rescue and cleanup effort is underway in Santa Barbara &#8211; and where is the &#8220;largest relief force on the planet?&#8221;  I&#8217;ll bet their VM van is still sitting in the parking lot gathering spiderwebs.</p>
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		By: Ammo Alamo		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ammo Alamo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As usual, Scn combines elements of every possible deceptive nuance to advance their PR.  No number of semi-slaves styled as religious volunteers can make up for all the evil they continue to do on a daily basis.   

They claim to be reducing crime with a cleanup, with no evidence that it happened before or could happen in the future.  They ignore the beam in their own eye - their policy of fair game, something the evidence shows they never quit, just played lip service to quitting.  They ignore their own internal slavery, their incessant crowing for more more more money, their claims to great things which they make, while also requiring members to sign legal documents saying those *great things* are not part of the deal... it just goes on and on and on, including using supposedly confidential auditing files for blackmail attempts - they force people to claim the most outlandish crimes just to finally exit the audit or sec check, and pay for the abuse, then later present those same forced claims as if it were an admission made under oath with a lawyer present.  No number of semi-slaves styled as religious volunteers can make up for all the evil they continue to do on a daily basis.  

Now, if the PR announcement had said &quot;Disconnected family members welcome&quot; it could signal a sea change, but don&#039;t hold your ever&#039; lovin&#039; breath.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, Scn combines elements of every possible deceptive nuance to advance their PR.  No number of semi-slaves styled as religious volunteers can make up for all the evil they continue to do on a daily basis.   </p>
<p>They claim to be reducing crime with a cleanup, with no evidence that it happened before or could happen in the future.  They ignore the beam in their own eye &#8211; their policy of fair game, something the evidence shows they never quit, just played lip service to quitting.  They ignore their own internal slavery, their incessant crowing for more more more money, their claims to great things which they make, while also requiring members to sign legal documents saying those *great things* are not part of the deal&#8230; it just goes on and on and on, including using supposedly confidential auditing files for blackmail attempts &#8211; they force people to claim the most outlandish crimes just to finally exit the audit or sec check, and pay for the abuse, then later present those same forced claims as if it were an admission made under oath with a lawyer present.  No number of semi-slaves styled as religious volunteers can make up for all the evil they continue to do on a daily basis.  </p>
<p>Now, if the PR announcement had said &#8220;Disconnected family members welcome&#8221; it could signal a sea change, but don&#8217;t hold your ever&#8217; lovin&#8217; breath.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206737&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

:) Chris.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206737">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>🙂 Chris.</p>
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		By: Mick Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mick Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206760&quot;&gt;Valerie&lt;/a&gt;.

I was wondering how they might have come up with that as well.  It seems most likely to be a fudged stat (Marc Headley talks about how they justify their statistics) or perhaps there really was a 60% drop in crime but it&#039;s a result of something else that should mostly be attributed to the ideas &#038; work of the police and local leaders.....and Scientology never seems to miss an opportunity to take credit for other people&#039;s work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206760">Valerie</a>.</p>
<p>I was wondering how they might have come up with that as well.  It seems most likely to be a fudged stat (Marc Headley talks about how they justify their statistics) or perhaps there really was a 60% drop in crime but it&#8217;s a result of something else that should mostly be attributed to the ideas &amp; work of the police and local leaders&#8230;..and Scientology never seems to miss an opportunity to take credit for other people&#8217;s work.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206768&quot;&gt;Karen#1&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Missy Karen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/clearwater-vm-pr-desperation/#comment-206768">Karen#1</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Missy Karen!</p>
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