Okay, understood. Again just to be clear, I wasn’t actually asking from a fundamentalist standpoint, and didn’t have the intention to debate whatever the answer was. I just know that you happen to have inside information from having been there and witnessed things up close. And I’m probably not the only one who would be interested to know whether or not LRH was the one who changed the Bridge – because, as you indicated, it really doesn’t matter what his name is or isn’t attached to. What went on behind the lines might be a very different story. Anyway, I thought you might know one way or the other and would be willing to say. That’s all.

I do have “hidden data line” data. There is a ton of it contained in “advices” and despatches it’s not funny — like tens of thousands of pages when LRH “was not managing the church”… People don’t like to hear about it as “it isnt written” or “precedence of issues and orders” etc etc so I don’t bother relaying it any more.

Thanks, Mike. No problem. Got it that you aren’t interested in further discussing this subject. Just wanted to let you know that the reason I asked you the question was because I thought you might have data that ISN”T in HCOB’s – specifically as to whether or not LRH himself intended for the “new” OT levels to replace the original ones. As far as I can tell, doing so is not really the same as stating that NOTs was to be a prerequisite for OT VIII. Having NOTs as a prerequisite would actually make a lot of sense in view of what I’ve read about OT VIII – which included cleaning up all previous misownerships. And, apparently, that might involve misowned incidents of BT’s. (Note – all confidential issues can be found on the Internet.)

There is no response to this that will satisfy you as it is not written in an HCOB (though it is written on the Grade Chart but that is not “signed” so it doesnt count).

Do what you think is best. I honestly don’t think it is going to do anyone any harm to do old OT 5-7.

Though I will mention to you that LRH CERTAINLY stated that OT 3 was “The Wall Of Fire” and then described NOTs as “The Second Wall Of Fire” — and it was to come after OT III and as a prerequisite to OT VIII.

I have no wish to continue this thread as I know from past experience it will accomplish nothing.

Mike, NED for OTs Series 1 states that the purpose of NOTs is as a remedy for OTs who had been run on Dianetics after going Clear. There’s nothing in the bulletin about NOTs being an OT level. My understanding is that it was the CoS and not LRH who decided to make NOTs and Solo NOTs into OT levels and drop the original LRH OT levels, which actually drilled OT abilities. Do you have any other data about that?

Here’s the first paragraph of NED for OTs Series 1, “NED FOR OTs RD, THEORY OF” 15 Sept 78:

“As has been announced, there is a special handling for OTs who have been run on Dianetics since Clear. It is called “NED for OTs”. This RD is a prerequisite for OT VIII. Its EP is CAUSE OVER LIFE. The RD steps are covered in separate issues. This issue
covers the theory behind the action and also includes OT III data which has never before been released.”

Yes, that is BS that was done to you. Did you get your money back on that refund request? I hope so. You have friends in the Indie world. We’re glad you got out.

Foolproof, What Hiatus 57 says is very true. Just continue going up your Bridge out here and ignore the ones whose life purpose seems to be to slime anyone with any goals of a spiritual nature or who believe the tech has some workability. Those critics who seem at times to have hijacked this blog, are nothing more than the dogs chasing and yip yapping after a firetruck on the way to the fire. Continue on your course and keep your eye on the mountain top. I wish you luck. Keep doing what you’re doing and ignore the rest.

Friend, I am sorry for the ordeal you and your wife suffered at the hands of the church. But good news is that you’re out of there! It can only get better from her on out. You’re on the way up. Enjoy the sunshine.

You are wasting your time trying to explain what Solo NOTS is all about.

Sadly this blog which started as perhaps the most informative place on the web to find out what is really going on in the COS now has far too many individuals whose only purpose is to denigrate and degrade all LRH Tech at every opportunity.

Of course these types offer nothing in place of the Tech because there was NOTHING that worked before it.

Nobody goes Clear eating garbage or chanting in a black chamber somewhere

It would appear that some people go quite insane whenever someone tries to help his fellow man.

The thing to do Foolproof is simply rise above all this “yip yip, YapYap” and keep making TA.

They can’t and that’s where the problem is.

Let these charactors carry on running Audited NOTS as a SOLO process and this will take care of them for us.

They will simply give up on the Tech or go and do something else, or get sick either way they will be off our lines.

There is nothjing worse than a seething mass of DEV-T on the lines when someone is trying to get something worth while done.

I think Clint Eastwood said it in a nutshell “Opinions are like assholes, everybodies got one”

Keep up the good work Mike, loved the shots of the dwarf’s hideout.

Did you not notice the bulletproof glasses height?

Does he really fit lower than that when he stands up?

I can see that you thought about my question to you.

Thank you.

Hallie Jane quoted:

“We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.”

The Talmud

One person’s actions are not the actions of someone else: They are different.

You answered these questions of mine:

“What about other people who might fall into the hidden traps that are built into Scientology by LRH?

Don’t you feel a responsibility, with your experience, to warn people about those traps?”

With this

One person’s trap is another’s ideal marriage, job or decision. I respect people by assuming that they are capable of taking responsibility for their own perceptions, decisions and actions. If someone feels they’ve erred, I would advise, learn, forgive yourself and do better. Live intentionally, according to your own code of honor.

But a person can not take responsibility for something they do not know about, or which they can not control.

If you know that there are lies in Scientology, and other people who do not have your experience are being lied to, doesn’t your code of honor tell you to expose those lies so that those people have the truth available to them to make their decisions with?

Mine does.

Why doesn’t yours?

Alanzo