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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3198</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 04:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By the way, rumor has it that Lynn Irons is no longer ED Tampa.  True or not, that&#039;s what I heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, rumor has it that Lynn Irons is no longer ED Tampa.  True or not, that&#8217;s what I heard.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, it just occurred to me that anyone unfamiliar with the RCS reading this stuff would  find it too incredible, too unbelievable, that any entity calling itself a church could harass its parishioners for money so continuously.  I think  this unbelievability is one of the factors which still protects the RCS. That, and how hard it is to explain why we put up with it for so long.  In my case, the minute I had a clear distinction in my mind between the Tech and Management, and the minute I really got that the latter was no longer delivering the former, I was done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it just occurred to me that anyone unfamiliar with the RCS reading this stuff would  find it too incredible, too unbelievable, that any entity calling itself a church could harass its parishioners for money so continuously.  I think  this unbelievability is one of the factors which still protects the RCS. That, and how hard it is to explain why we put up with it for so long.  In my case, the minute I had a clear distinction in my mind between the Tech and Management, and the minute I really got that the latter was no longer delivering the former, I was done.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3196</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question: &quot;Have you ever made the decision not to do anything when it comes to Church activities?

Answer: &quot;Yes, Quentin.  What comes to mind is my decision to quit participating in any Church activities  wherein I will be badgered, bullied, button-pressed or guilt-tripped into handing over everything I own&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: &#8220;Have you ever made the decision not to do anything when it comes to Church activities?</p>
<p>Answer: &#8220;Yes, Quentin.  What comes to mind is my decision to quit participating in any Church activities  wherein I will be badgered, bullied, button-pressed or guilt-tripped into handing over everything I own&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 00:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is continuing evidence of the cult&#039;s desperation to bleed whoever can be bled, wherever and by whomever.  Mike has spotted the Why of it being Tampa: there are whales there.  Doubtful that the money for Harlem&#039;s Idea Morgue can be raised within that community, as the NOI will be its chief public and NOI are unlikely to fork over money for CO$&#039;s real estate.  So its necessary to go wherever the money is because it ain&#039;t in Harlem.  Nor, from what I hear,  are there any whales for Harlem in  the per capita wealthier areas of  Westchester and Long Island  as these folks, per my friend, are being fundraised for Celebrity Center (NY) and for Long Island org in order to go &quot;Ideal&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is continuing evidence of the cult&#8217;s desperation to bleed whoever can be bled, wherever and by whomever.  Mike has spotted the Why of it being Tampa: there are whales there.  Doubtful that the money for Harlem&#8217;s Idea Morgue can be raised within that community, as the NOI will be its chief public and NOI are unlikely to fork over money for CO$&#8217;s real estate.  So its necessary to go wherever the money is because it ain&#8217;t in Harlem.  Nor, from what I hear,  are there any whales for Harlem in  the per capita wealthier areas of  Westchester and Long Island  as these folks, per my friend, are being fundraised for Celebrity Center (NY) and for Long Island org in order to go &#8220;Ideal&#8221;.</p>
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		By: statpush		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3194</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3178&quot;&gt;Jane Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree.  It really is quite shocking.  It&#039;s not even thinly disguised; there really is nothing behind the curtain.  WISE operates off of a sense of entitlement.  Like a Scn Tax Agency, they levy a 10% corporation tax, for what? The &quot;privledge&quot; to buy more of their &quot;services&quot;?  Completely divorced from reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3178">Jane Doe</a>.</p>
<p>I agree.  It really is quite shocking.  It&#8217;s not even thinly disguised; there really is nothing behind the curtain.  WISE operates off of a sense of entitlement.  Like a Scn Tax Agency, they levy a 10% corporation tax, for what? The &#8220;privledge&#8221; to buy more of their &#8220;services&#8221;?  Completely divorced from reality.</p>
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		By: Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3193</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 23:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the reasons I&#039;m sure that this non-seq regging was going on in Tpa is because Tpa ran a super secret project of getting a few dozen NOI peeps through some Book one training.  I&#039;m sure it was done in Tpa to keep them at arms length from Flag in case things blew up yet close enough to run it from the side and on the continual bypass LRH policy system that Tpa is run by.  Well, that the cofs is run by.  I am only guessing at this next but I would think it&#039;s likely that some of those NOI troups were pick&#039;ns for staff in Harlem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I&#8217;m sure that this non-seq regging was going on in Tpa is because Tpa ran a super secret project of getting a few dozen NOI peeps through some Book one training.  I&#8217;m sure it was done in Tpa to keep them at arms length from Flag in case things blew up yet close enough to run it from the side and on the continual bypass LRH policy system that Tpa is run by.  Well, that the cofs is run by.  I am only guessing at this next but I would think it&#8217;s likely that some of those NOI troups were pick&#8217;ns for staff in Harlem.</p>
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		By: Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3192</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 23:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3168&quot;&gt;uncover&lt;/a&gt;.

lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3168">uncover</a>.</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		By: Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3191</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 23:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3163&quot;&gt;Starman8&lt;/a&gt;.

I remember back in at least &#039;02 Strubb was off post to reg for Buffalo along with all but 3 CLOEUS staff.  He spent over a year up there regging the WISE guys and sucking the life out of the big heavy hitter donor up there who basically bought that building for them until this guy was so sick there was serious concern about whether he was going to live.  This was at the same time of their being an OT VII staff member who fell and broke her leg and another one who got very sick.  A good friend of mine donated almost a year of his life to be up there to help Quentin and was himself so suppressed and broke by the end of that year that he left to go make some income.  Instead of thanking this guy for all his help and donation of time he was slammed for leaving and had his license to consult taken away until he got himself sec checked.  Yep that&#039;s Quentin loyal till the last drop and when your blood is gone he moves on to another source of blood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3163">Starman8</a>.</p>
<p>I remember back in at least &#8217;02 Strubb was off post to reg for Buffalo along with all but 3 CLOEUS staff.  He spent over a year up there regging the WISE guys and sucking the life out of the big heavy hitter donor up there who basically bought that building for them until this guy was so sick there was serious concern about whether he was going to live.  This was at the same time of their being an OT VII staff member who fell and broke her leg and another one who got very sick.  A good friend of mine donated almost a year of his life to be up there to help Quentin and was himself so suppressed and broke by the end of that year that he left to go make some income.  Instead of thanking this guy for all his help and donation of time he was slammed for leaving and had his license to consult taken away until he got himself sec checked.  Yep that&#8217;s Quentin loyal till the last drop and when your blood is gone he moves on to another source of blood.</p>
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		By: Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3190</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 23:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3160&quot;&gt;Innocent Bystander&lt;/a&gt;.

lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/co-wise-fundraising-for-ideal-orgs/#comment-3160">Innocent Bystander</a>.</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		By: PepsiCat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PepsiCat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 01:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WISE:  World Institute of Scientology Extortions]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WISE:  World Institute of Scientology Extortions</p>
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