Tubby LIKED complexity. The more complex and imprecise, the better. Part of the “mystery sandwich” that he used to trap folks. If things were TOO simple, the bs would be too obvious.

LANCB? So there’s a term for what I did at Tony Ortega’s blog? I got eaten alive like a caterpillar on an ant hill because I said something that wasn’t in strict conformance to the “group think” there. One of the participants went so far as to research me that she may post personal information about my employment history. There’s nothing of that sort here at Mike’s Place. Still, I like to have the option to hear myself talk at the U.Bunker.

Anyway TJ, blogs with their social cliques sometimes resemble high school and that’s just the nature of the beast I think.

Hi Mike Rinder, thank you for your reply.

After reading Alonzo’s article, I became worried that my presence wasn’t really wanted here and felt doubtful that anyone was finding anything of relevance or value in my posts, so I did think I would take a little hiatus from this blog, since I kind of got hurt feelings (I’m a woman, so I’m emotional) – but then after reading some comments from people who didn’t agree with Alonzo’s statements and who reassured me that they did find some worth in my posts after all, I changed my mind (again, I’m a woman, so it’s allowed) so instead of leaving, I’m most likely doing an LANCB instead.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leaving_and_Never_Coming_Back

“Leaving and never coming back” (LANCB) is an internet tactic whereby a frustrated participant in a forum, or blog, or whatever, takes away their ball and refuses to play. It is usually publicly announced, done with great fanfare, then followed by a quiet return within a week (or even within a few hours). A statement of LANCB virtually guarantees a return, thus destroying any ultimata or idealism involved in their “leaving.”

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Hi everyone, I’m back. 🙂 – T.J.

Hi Cece, I don’t mind hanging out with people of a different opinion, I just am not too fond of being told I am an evil, insidious, atheist cult member who never had any interest in spirituality, who is determined to poison people’s minds and treat them with contempt and disgust, and will never be able to understand anything about Scientology, etc., as Alonzo stated. Totally untrue and hurtful. I am a human rights advocate and have done nothing to be characterized as those things. To see people agreeing with these statements led me to reconsider whether or not I should be posting here any longer.

I don’t need to be with “like-minded” people, but I also don’t need to be verbally abused when I’m just trying to offer another perspective. I’ve always been respectful of others beliefs though disagreeing, I haven’t ever engaged in name-calling or made disparaging remarks about someone whose beliefs don’t match up with mine, so I don’t like it when someone maligns my character or motives or assigns traits to me that I don’t have, or claims I am part of some organized “anti” faction, which I certainly am not.

The bottom line is I really care about people’s freedom, and that includes freedom of thought, their ability to make up their own minds, and be free of undue influence, manipulation and control. This is especially important for children who are still developing their thought processes to be allowed to think for themselves, and for people of good will who desire to help others and themselves, to not be caught up in something detrimental that they have a difficult time extracting themselves from. This is not only about Scientology, but all practices that seek to manipulate the and thoughts and freedoms of others.

I hope this explains it without sounding too harsh (I already know the post was too long – anyone can exercise their freedom to not read it, lol).

Hi Cindy, thanks so much. I’m happy that you have found my comments worthwhile. Sometimes I wonder if I’m being useful or not, so it’s really nice to see you say this.

Thank you Dawn. 🙂 I understand and agree with what you said also.

Thank you for the kind comments Hennessy. I’m glad you found value in my words.

gtsix, I read it the same way as you did, I agree totally with you.

TJ, excellent points you bring up. Please don’t stop posting on this blog. We need your intelligence and invitation to look and judge for ourselves. We need your viewpoint.

Still trying to audit BT’s to his dying day I think indicates he believed in his theories.