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Credit Card to Spiritual Freedom

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Though perhaps not financial freedom…

Unfortunately, things like this are all too common in scientology. People become desperate to achieve what they have been promised they will get when they reach the “next level.” They are convinced to believe there is some magical result achievable right around the next corner.

Why would anyone in their right mind offer 10 -12% interest for a 3 month loan? Of course, nobody in their right mind would do so. This is a self-proving truth about scientology.

Could anyone have any confidence in getting their money back from someone who apparently cannot even get a credit card?

My bet is this person, Priscilla Burden, is working to try and get an FSM Commission. Her motivation is not really to help a friend – though she may say it is. And she may even believe this is helping.  But if she got nothing out of her friend handing over the money is it likely she would be doing this in order to get her fiend more into debt? I think not.

This is a look into the twisted world of the “religion” of scientology.

 

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    • I may not be in the cult, but I know a scam when I see one. Let me hold your credit card for a couple of months. Sure, just as soon as I get the money that Nigerian prince is going to send me.

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  4. Priscilla,

    There is a guy in Jersey I know who SPECIALIZES in this kind of loan.

    He is easy to spot, usually wears running outfit, gold neck chain, and carries a section of iron pipe.

    You two should really meet, I think you are made for each other.

    Kyle

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  5. There are plenty of unsettling items in these pleas for a short-term, high-interest loan. The worst? That it takes $10,000 to continue her auditing sessions, and just for a few months (at most). I can’t imagine spending asking for someone to take on debt for what amounts to $40,000/year in outlay. Most people don’t spend that much on housing + car payments. What a scam.

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  6. Yet another example of scientology only caring about one thing… money:

    What a sickening and disgusting clutch of con-artists and grifters. And, thanks to the internet, EVERYBODY, and I mean EVERYBODY knows how grotesque this sham of a “spiritual” organization is.

    No wonder they scatter when confronted by facts. Much like their depraved “leader”. When was your last real independent interview, Dave? Are you scared?

    Oh yeah, and WHERE’s SHELLEY!?! Do you have any idea how bad that whole situation looks outside your fantasy bubble?

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  7. How sad & seems desperate like a drug addicts begging for there drugs till they get there money so they say,this makes Me upset & I’m not into this mess & I wonder how these ppl would feel to see where there Debt goes into,who’s being helped/Not helped & IMO that Cross needs to be OFF that building I’ve yet to hear 1 thing that I’ve learned from the Bible just misery feed from sick ppl & it’s sad but we all have free will & hope they Run away & live a normal life my word I can’t imagine there stress,worry,ect it’s so wrong what DM thinks is right…..smh

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  8. Priscilla should at least tell a more plausible story… like she’s Nigerian royalty soon to be restored to her rightful throne and only needs to borrow 10 or 20 thousand dollars temporarily while her inheritance is locked up, but will gladly pay the lender back all of that plus10% of that as soon as her ship comes in.

    This is yet another example of Scientologists needing basic critical thinking skills. (I thought auditing was supposed to increase your IQ.)

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    • I’ve never been to Flog but I’ve read and been told that its quite common there for Flog public to be hit up for money to fund auditing their fellow public – by staff and by these publics themselves.

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  10. I’d just like to share how thrilled I am that this email got into the hands of a mole or UTR and as such forwarded to Mike. Bwwwwwwwwahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!

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  11. I knew ben in l.a he’an asshole.he kept his kids away from his ex-wife who was higher on the bridge b4 she got falsely declared. Now she can’t see them or her grandchildren. He is a horrible father and friend. I heard he’s planing to do nots in the field. He cheated on both of his wives. I don’t think he’ll ever het declared because 2 of his kids. Are billionaires. The cherch sucks.

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  14. Hey Prescilla, Why doesn’t your amazing trust-worthy lady just pay Scientology with her own credit card in 3 months when she gets it? In the grand scheme of things, what difference does it make if she starts auditing now, or in 3 months? Or better yet, if Scientology’s official representative (you) are able to credibly tout this lady’s trust-worthiness, why doesn’t Scientology just let her get started on auditing now, and collect the “donation” in 3 months? Is the big, wealthy Church not even willing to extend the same trust to this lady that you expect perfect strangers to?

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    • Yo Priscilla!
      Howzabout YOU loaning it to her?
      Just make it go right, you know?
      Apply the Supreme Test,
      Help your friend out for Gawd’s sake!
      Much love,
      Aqua

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      • To: Aquamarine
        From: David Miscavige COB RTC
        Re: loaning money

        Why should Priscilla have to loan the money? I think YOU should be the one to loan her the money. It will help you work your way out of lower conditions.

        ML
        Dave.

        To:David Miscavige COB RTC
        From: Alcoboy
        Re: you and your stupid ideas.

        Run this up the flagpole, midget! How about you give her the services for free? That would be the real humanitarian thing to do.
        Oh, and by the way, if anyone is in lower conditions, it’s YOU! Got me? Aquamarine is a far more ethical person than you’ll ever be!

        No Love At All
        Alcoboy.

        To:Alcoboy
        From: David Miscavige COB RTC
        Re: your insolence

        HOW DARE YOU CAST JUDGMENT UPON ME LIKE THAT! LOWER CONDITIONS? AQUAMARINE IS MORE ETHICAL THAN ME? IF I HEAR ONE MORE INFLAMMATORY WORD OUT OF YOUR MOUTH I WILL COME DOWN ON YOU LIKE A TON OF BRICKS! AND THEN I’LL DEAL WITH AQUAMARINE!

        ML
        Dave.

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        • Alcoboy,

          Thank you for defending me to the Demented Dwarf. Prince Valiant, Alcoboy. I’m safe when you’re around!

          Seriously, I have to tell you, though:

          You know how a certain picture, or a phrase one can strike one as funny no matter how many times one sees or hears it?

          I have a number of such in my life. There are some films I can watch that are ALWAYS funny to me. I always laugh at the same places, always, for real.

          The top of DM’s head each week in RB’s comics – I always chuckle a little.

          Another is YOUR “No love at all”.

          Make no mistake, I’m very happy to no longer get floods of mail from orgs, yet each time I read one of your “No love at all”s I really wish I’d get a letter from my old org or SOME Scn org JUST so I could write back and end the letter this way. Just thinking about doing this makes me laugh – please, don’t ask me why!

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  15. Scientology is like a watering hole that draws in victims and those that prey on victims. Scientology of course gets the lions share. Its never ending….

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  16. Reading this article, I had a number of thoughts, opinions, memories, all of which can be conceptualized as follows:

    “Oh, brrrrother!”

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  17. Borrowing until you are overwhelmed with debt is greatest good. Oh, you don’t want to do that? Then you are out ethics at best, perhaps even suppressive. Now you can get a sec check at your own expense, so you better come up with that money or ethics will get tougher and tougher on you…your eternity is being threatened now. What a trap. But what I never could understand is: A thetan has no mass, no location in space and time per their tech dictionary, so how can one’s eternity be threatened by a human group? But one does not dare think like that if they want to remain a member of the group where all your friends and family live. Until they don’t.

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    • That same question of yours was also mine, once:
      “How is it possible for a thetan to NOT survive – to do anything other than survive?”
      I don’t recall having received anything resembling a cogent answer or even a reference!
      So we are left with on one hand a thetan being an immortal being, meaning no beginning, no end, has always existed, will always exist, that’s what immortal means, e.g. NOT mortal…OK. On the other hand, this very same “immortal” being, which, mind you, has ALWAYS existed and ALWAYS WILL, can, nevertheless be threatened with loss of eternity…somehow…sure, I understand that!

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  18. I thought the crim organization known as scientology got in trouble with American Express (in the 90s?) for this exact crim activity of borrowing from another’s CC.

    Apparently, that didn’t stop them from continuing this practice.
    Despicable!

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    • Probably because Miscavige did with American Express the same thing he did with the IRS. That is, he threatened them with a bajillion lawsuits unless they backed off.

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    • Well, I know they stopped the practice for a while.

      ps general notice: I could not get into my wordpress account so I finally made a new one. I was/am JAYE R but I couldn’t use that handle according to wordpress.

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  19. Does Scientology operate a dreaded Pawn Shop? Sounds like another perfect scam for those trapped on the Bridge, or whatever the hell is getting folks trapped on or in, to take their purloined goods, electronics, artwork, Rolex watches and jewelry from their unwitting dupes, sleeping friends and vacationing relatives.

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  20. So sorry to hear of all who has been defrauded in this way (and other ways of course).
    Isn´t it all against what LRH “himself” wrote about economy in policies?
    We were many who left in 1982 who had written KR´s and believed that all this would become known to Ethics and corrected etc. How naive we were – it even got worse and continues this day..
    Where are those policies from LRH that makes all this OK?

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  21. My take on the efectiveness of the “credit” drill.
    Get someone to lend some money for your superb cycle of auditing.
    When you have finished, tell him that he has to be an ideal true Scientologist…
    And
    NEVER ever try to pay him back!

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  22. I loaned three grands to my Scientology friend ones. He needed just one more intensive to finish rundown. When I asked when he will repay me six months later, he wrote a KR on me for enturbulating him with intention to ruin his gains and wins. Officially i^am still in good standing, but he and couple of others with smaller sums of debt refuses to give me money back without Church mediation.

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  23. I thought they learned their lesson from these “credit drills” and borrowing money from other people’s credit cards. Nope, they’re still doing it. Gotta get it by Thursday at 2 or else the world’s gonna end. Jee-zuss, I’d never lend money to a clam. I didn’t even do that when I was in.

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    • Knowing how many of them paid their bills I never lent any Scientologist any money that cared about getting back.

      When I first got in, a friend of mine, a fellow Scientologist, very kindly and generously allowed me to put $5000 for auditing on his credit card and pay him incrementally, which I did.

      Several years later he left the cherch, quietly but firmly. Long story. His leaving had nothing to do with me.

      I was still a stauch still-innie; he was disaffected although that term was unknown to me at the time. He had an argument with the cherch and was not coming back, ever, he said.

      We went out of touch. He and I were, albeit politely, “out reality” with regard to Scientology. Nonetheless I still owed him about $4000.

      At some point I reached out to him and gave him my payment plan. He was amazed and pleased. He hadn’t expected it, he said. He figured that money he lent me was just gone. He had “written it off” he said. I assured him that he would definitely be paid back in full. Over about another year I paid him back every penny.

      A deluded koolaid drinker I was, a deadbeat I was not. I don’t operate that way.

      .

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  24. OMG. This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen! Person A borrows $10k off person B. After 3 months person B doesn’t get their money back because $camology has fleeced person A’s new found credit.

    Person B complains and they are then “handled” in ethics.

    This stuff used to go on at my local mission in the early 90’s. And it looks like it continues to this day……………….. Money, money money……………

    If $camology worked even a fraction of that which is claimed then you’d have loads of people in it. And as it’s purpose is to “benefit mankind”, they’d be able to offer loads of services for nothing, or at least hack their rip off prices by 90%

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    • The level of greed itself and this strategy of ripping people off and milking them dry is actually a suppressive act that will in and of itself preclude any chance of clearing the planet. Only by freely disseminating all of the laughable LRH technology could they have a chance at that and that’s sure not going to happen. Putting up draconian toll gates has a tendency to do stifle progress.

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  25. Note: what follows is sarcastic…
    Ah, pfft, poo-ey, and pah! Mere mesty considerations and ” pts-ness ” to the wog capitalist system! If ya wanna GO oat-tea, ya gotta BE oat-tea, are ya feelin’ the theta here in the deep squeeze of your sphincter? Fear not, hit that niacin, silence ” the bank” , pull out that plastic, and work that other bank; you know that spiritual salvation and “eternity ” are easily purchasable commodities! All you need is dough- the ninth dynamic, Master Hubbard called it-to grow, baby!
    Cha-ching!

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  26. Oh my… that is indeed a snapshot into the desperate world of Scientology.
    There’s a triangular sign I seen a couple of times in life, “MINES!” This is similar.

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  27. Interesting, Miscabage’s greed has attracted similar characters that want to make easy money.

    That reminds me of several FSMs who switched from regging for services to reg for the IAS. Better commissions = easy money.

    The term ‘Spiritual’ has nothing to do with the real activities of this criminal cult.

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  28. So this person is a reg who is trying to help someone get credit, someone who isn’t creditworthy and doesn’t have any money (the LAST person who should be borrowing).

    I’m not sure what they mean by a ‘credit drill’. Does that mean they are trying to take out some credit and want someone to issue them some additional off the books credit, so that the creditors they hope to go in debt with in a few months won’t know what the person’s true debt load is? What a mess of “help” this person is in. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

    All to pay for ‘auditing’ that costs the CoS basically nothing.

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    • “…a good bankruptcy lawyer on speed dial…” 🙂

      A necessity for every Scientologist In Good Standing.

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  30. I have a list of people (scientologists) that owe me. Needless to say, declared Suppressive is a Get Out Of Debt Free card for the most ethical people on the planet.
    The biggest doozie of a story comes from my husband’s best friend, Ben Kugler, the same creaton that went beyond the pale of what even OSA wanted him to do and made the video and lied against me when I was on The Aftermath series. He borrowed a lot of money from his boyhood friend, my husband, when my husband’s declare was imminent and then disconnected from him a month later when my husband was actually declared. Don’t bet on this guy ever paying his “once best friend” back.

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    • Sorry to hear your story. In fact, it is very upsetting.
      I am in a similar situation. There is a five-digit figure outstanding that I will never get back.
      The most ethical beings on Earth. Get that?
      Justification: “It is impossible to commit overts against suppressive people.”
      Since then I invested in legal suppressive acts against the SPs of the SPs. This is the best you can do when you have money left but no time due to a flourishing business.

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    • Small – or no – consolation, Mary, but most of the money that he didn’t pay back likely went to the cherch, which will be more than happy to hang Mr. Kugler upside down and shake the change out of his pockets, if they haven’t already.

      BTW, your appearance on Aftermath is the one that remains the most vivid for me of that season. Glad to see you on this forum, and I wish you all the happiness you deserve in this life.

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      • Thank you.

        As regards Ben. He’s been had by the church big time. He has been unaware that he was blacklisted by miscavige who had no intention of allowing Ben on 7. His last 40 intensives were on sec checking which for anybody that doesnt know, that’s a shit ton of interrogations that is NOT healthy for a human mind.

        He, in fact, had to file bankruptcy but is muddling along doing favors for OSA and trying to make various endeavors work and get back to his once-rich state at 70.

        He has no idea what a slave he is.

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          • It’s only a guess (but I think a good one): When his son, Brad, was up at the Int Base, he was in the RPF’s RPF and Ben, was unable to talk with him when he tried several times to call. Ben finally called up the Int Base and told them that if he didn’t talk to his son, Brad, soon he would call the police. He then was able to talk to his son.

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    • The EEE PEE of Scientology is Financial Ruin.

      First – Scientology will ruin your life.

      Then – it will get you into deep debt to “solve the ruin”

      But it never does.

      Everyone goes broke and learns to have nothing while they train to have NO CASE ON POST!

      Criminal organization disguised as a religion.

      Scientology needs to get shut down.

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    • Mary Kahn, yes Mike is right. Ben Kugler is the poster child for Scn debouchebaggery. My bet is that he had insider information that you were being investigated to be declared, so he quickly weaseled money out of your husband, and then once the declare happened, he disconnects and walks off scott free on the money he owes you. Now that you have nothing to lose (i.e., you’ve lost it all already), I think you should take Ben to Small Claims Court and sue to get a judgement against him.

      Ben was also involved in that weird Scn planned community scheme that failed and lost many Scns tons of money. And then he started a company to help people find out their purpose in life and then get or create jobs that do that and that failed also. He was welcomed into the Scn schools to get al kids doing his program. It still failed. He went from one mess and failure to another, costing people money at each step. Defrauding them the whole time.

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      • Yes. That sounds like Ben.
        He ended up selling a good part of that land in that failed community to the church, some paid to intensives on account which was sec checked away.

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        • It sounds like Ben is reaping the exact rewards he deserves!

          Yo Dave,
          If Ben still has difficulty getting cash to flow then Yer sec checks have missed the mark. Better You cram all auditors and Cee Esses within an inch of their lives and then get some tough new auditors that have gone thru yer GAG III sec check training to deliver about 100 hours of real smooth theta crushing sec checking so you can get the goods on ole Ben.

          And for christs sake Dave, get a handle on all of the leaks in yer organization good buddy!

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        • Mary Kahn, so are you saying instead of money, the church paid Ben in money on account and then took it in aggressive Sec Checking? That is just like the church. I knew a girl who sold her house in Clearwater to the church cuz they needed it to build the Osceola. She negotiated them to about $500,000 and they paid her ONLY in money on account. She needed the cold hard cash and all she got was money on account. Humbug!

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    • I loaned $1,500 to a douche-bag scientologist for his lifetime IAS membership.

      His name was DON HOYT. Some of you may know him. If you see him, kick him in the ass for me. He still owes me $400 on that loan. I reported him to the chaplin (mis-spelling intended if you catch my drift) and nothing. They probably didn’t want him to pay me so they could reg him for the BreakWinds. I found out later that he fucked others along the way.

      I parked my Harley Davidson motorcycle in the parking garage at the Fort Harrison. Some asshole scientologist hit the tank with his car door making a sizable dent in it. I looked for a note, there was none.

      Scientologists are the most ethical people on the planet. What a load of horseshit. I would call the “help” button the “fuck me” button.

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      • Scientologists?
        Most ethical people on the planet?
        (snort)(giggle)
        HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
        You’re right; it IS a load of horseshit!
        But there’s no room on this blog for me to note the numerous examples I’ve encountered.

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  31. She’s asking for a friend, eh? Sure, that sounds likely…

    Seriously, any member in good standing of the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology who is persuaded to make a loan to a fellow victim by the Co$ organisation itself, maybe as a way of getting out of “lower conditions,” should consider that they have been the victim of organised criminal blackmail.

    Any district attorney who gets this story from a victim (or perhaps from the family of an elderly victim) should consider that the Co$ makes written plans to blackmail its own members in this way. It is in the “ethics folder” – if you need to know which sets of binders to secure when making a raid.

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    • My friend went on the Ship to do OT VIII. Apparently the Sec Check took way more hours than she had paid for and she had to iquidate her retirement and everything she had, which she did, to get off the ship. Still it wasn’t enough. So she was at the registrar’s office and they made her call everyone she knew begging for money for a loan. She called me and I said no, can’t do it. A day later she called again sounding close to tears. I could tell they were leaning on her. I asked why she was calling when I just told her no and why only a day or two ago? She basically said they weren’t letting her off the ship till she got the money and finished it. I heard from a mutual friend that they finally lent her the money just to get her off the ship, but they were unhappy about it and had not wanted to lend her the money. When she got back she routed on staff at Valley Org because she’d signed a contract while on the Ship so as to get auditing at half rate as a staff member. But the point is, the Ship has great leverage: you can’t get off the ship to go home until you cough it up. Stuck at sea on a ship of fools.

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      • Do they literally keep you there against your will?? If you emphatically tell them you want off the ship they will lock you up? What if you threatened legal action, would they let you off then. Sorry if this is a dumb question but I have never really understood how they can keep people on a ship or in double wide trailers if someone demands to leave.

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      • That’s why that damn rustbucket stays in the Caribbean in and among those banana republics down there! In those waters they can get away with shit like that! Try that in New York Harbor and somebody will call NYPD and that damn rustbucket will be impounded for sure! Scream about religious freedom all you want but the law is the law! No way Miscavige and Captain Napier would ever get away with that in American waters!

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  32. I would feel really secure loaning someone my credit type thing for 3 months while they are in the middle of a credit drill! Pricilla doesn’t understand new accounts generally won’t give you $10k credit limits unless you have a good history which she apparently doesn’t have and iirc you can’t do balance transfers to another person. I can’t beleive people would fall for this nonsense!

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      • No they will not read this and be aware. Because the people in this cult, are hooked! It is impossible for them to leave. No way do they want to admit they wasted their life & money. The wasband has dealt with this lending and conniving for the last 40-50 years. It is called USURY. It is illegal

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        • petlover, respectfully,
          We were hooked. We admitted we wasted that portion of our lives. We admitted we wasted money. We left. So can they do all of the above. We did, they can too!

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  33. With about one ounce of critical thinking it becomes apparent that Priscilla is trying to put the ‘burden’ onto someone else. They cannot imagine how transparent they are to the rest of us.

    Priscilla, here is my suggestion for a ‘credit drill’: Get yourself a job, spend less than you take home, put excess into a savings account, repeat for a year and see your credit status rise. Oh! I’m sorry. You are a scieno, so you need that credit/money by 2 PM this coming Thursday. Good luck postulating gold bricks and flying pigs.

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  35. This plea for money has all the desperation of a drug addict looking for their next fix! Anyone living with this person had better hide their jewelry and other valuables before they too disappear into the eternally gaping maw that is Scientology.

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  37. Totally agree Mike. All just for commission.
    A friend told me she had once been regged heavily to loan a sea org member $20k who promised to replay her once the member received an inheritance a couple years later. Two Flag Reg’s were pestering my friend and she “held them at bay” while she diligently researched the topic and found registrars arranging loans for staff was totally off policy. The reges were saddened when she declined of course. I would bet they knew it was off policy but cared only for the money anyway. All with the justification it is all for the greatest good……

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    • “Purpose is senior to policy!”

      Which means that there is never a right answer, and if you give in to someone yelling louder and their senior finds out that the whole thing is counter-purpose it’s your fault…

      That’s one of the ways in which you can tell it’s a cult.

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    • BLACK BOX WARNING!

      Scientology is dangerous for your well being.

      After 65 years of research, it is proven beyond a doubt that Scientology has ruined many people’s lives.

      Scientology WILL cause financial ruin, shattered families, shattered minds, Complex Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, Anxiety, Homicidal and Suicidal thoughts, shattered dreams.

      Scientology is a mind fuck of epic-ness.

      Be Cult Free!

      Warn others of the side effects of Scientology.

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      • And I’ve been doing just that since I got out. I’m sure many of you posters are doing the same thing.

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  39. WTF? Yeah, I’ll ‘loan’ my credit limit to someone who wants to spend it on auditing. That alone guarantees that the loan will never be paid back. Priscilla probably knows that Nigerian Prince too…

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      • Tell you what, Priscilla,
        There’s someone who emails me every day offering to deposit 10 million dollars right into my bank account.
        All I have to do is authorize the deposit by clicking on a link!
        Tempting, no?
        Gee I could sure use 10 million!
        But I’m just a Bitter Defrocked type on the Fringes of the Internet.
        A windfall like this should not be wasted on the likes of me.
        Its too much.
        I don’t deserve it.
        My havingness can’t have it.
        So, tell you what I’m going to do.
        Givenhow important this is – greatest good and all – I’m going to forward this guy’s email to you and let you have the FULL 10 mil.
        Just one click and presto! 10 million smackolians. Think of all the intensives that will buy your friend.
        Because that’s the kind of person I am.
        All I ask is that you put in a good word for me with COB.
        Let him know that, underneath all the evil, Aqua has a heart of gold.
        That’s all I ask, Priscilla.
        Hope your friend enjoys the 10 mil and you get something out of it too, for all your hard work.
        Cheers and much love,
        Aqua.

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  40. She is doing something that is now very prominent in the over-indebtedness world if scn, a “Credit Flip”. I know of at least four still-in scientogists. They transfer all of their balances to a family member or friend. For a while they have no CC debt, and can handle things such as higher interest cards, etc. When their credit score is higher, they have more options. It’s the everyday absurd life of a scientologist. Normal as a sunny day to be carrying 100k of debt.

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  41. There are a large number of $cn staff who are guilty of credit card fraud. I wonder if that is a crime that’s protected by the first amendment.

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        • Win, loose?? It’s all the same to a bubble dweller. They’re not right in the head those people. They keep telling themselves everything is a win, even as the fireman orders them out of the area. Every member or sympathizer of Scientology (either stupid or on the take) is a Hubbard clone with a big twist of MIscavige stirred in. What a human disaster zone with fancy marble bench-tops that cult is.

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          • When I was in I knew a public Scientologist whose credit card was charged 40K for something without permission or even the awareness that it was needed or wanted on the part of the holder, by someone in the Sea Org.. One month and many phone calls later and this money still had not been restored although it was acknowledged on the part of the Sea Org that it should not have been debited. Even after having been made aware that what had occurred was serious credit card fraud, this public Scientologist did not report it as such but simply accepted what had occured, gave up on the issue altogether, and made the payments on the unauthorized donation. In brief, the Scientology Sea Org was permitted to get away with serious credit card fraud which under normal circumstances would have had the FBI involved because of the amount and because it occurred across state lines.

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  43. Crim regging.

    Crim regging as a phrase never made it into the Scientology dictionary, but if a protest sign outside orgs that do crim regging were to exist, everyone in the Scientology org would know what it means!

    Xenu disapproves of crim regging for Scientology’s secret “body-thetans” exorcism quackery.

    Xenu says: “Quit fast.” as in KSW #1. “…if they are going to quit let them quit fast….” type of “QUIT FAST”

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    • Chuck, let’s see if we can carry on a sane conversation here. Tony Ortega or someone booted me off his Underground Bunker so I can no longer respond to you there. In any event, a fool and their money are soon parted and anyone who ever came through the front door of any org is a fool for sure. I just watched the latest episodes of Leah and the Aftermath. No one sees the Sherman Tank in the Studio!

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  44. My husband and I were victims of this credit card game. Beverly Bowen asked my husband to put $7,500 on our credit card to pay for Mike Bennit’s auditing. He (nor she) never paid us back!

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