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		By: David Humphrey		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would love to take a tour soon. Where can I sign up?]]></description>
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		By: Lacey Zeiler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 19:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any planned marches, demonstrations or gatherings next week? I will be nearby, and would love to lend my voice to the mission how ever I can. 

This evil, violent, morally corrupt and child abusing group of human beings have to be exposed. And monitored to limit their future tactics of imprisoning the bodies and minds of their members. 

How quickly can I make a face mask that say&#039;s &quot;Where is Shelley Miscavige&quot;, so I can walk in and take the self guided tour....?

Mike, I feel like a flash mob in front of the centre would be right up your ally. Leah too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any planned marches, demonstrations or gatherings next week? I will be nearby, and would love to lend my voice to the mission how ever I can. </p>
<p>This evil, violent, morally corrupt and child abusing group of human beings have to be exposed. And monitored to limit their future tactics of imprisoning the bodies and minds of their members. </p>
<p>How quickly can I make a face mask that say&#8217;s &#8220;Where is Shelley Miscavige&#8221;, so I can walk in and take the self guided tour&#8230;.?</p>
<p>Mike, I feel like a flash mob in front of the centre would be right up your ally. Leah too.</p>
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		By: jim rowles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 15:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aaaaaaand, Tracy McManus has it covered today in the TBT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaaaaand, Tracy McManus has it covered today in the TBT.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyx75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 01:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385412&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard,   
It&#039;s not the mocking that &quot;gets&quot; them, it&#039;s the taboo words.   They are NOT allowed internally to write in their records, the words &quot;Xenu&quot; and &quot;body-thetans&quot;.
This isn&#039;t just mocking them, this is throwing a simple wrench into their procedures of filming and photo taking, and sending out &quot;lower level&quot; Scientologists of any type, to confront outsiders.
It&#039;s the taboo words backfiring effect I believe will most greatly erode one of Scientology&#039;s built in totalitarian &quot;information control&quot;.
They cannot control being exposed to the taboo words that Hubbard says will cause them harm.
When you expose them to the taboo words and define the taboo words to them, they do NOT get sick, contradicting Hubbard&#039;s dire warnings about the taboo words and the defining explanations of their own beliefs, that the majority of the Sea Org staffs don&#039;t even know their beliefs.
It might come across as mockery, but learning who Xenu was, and what Xenu did, and what &quot;body-thetans&quot; are, and that OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are the exorcism levels of the movement, are huge in transparency about the beliefs that the members themselves are ignorant of what they are reaching for, namely to come do the exorcism levels of Scientology.
Xenu and &quot;body-thetans&quot; are taboo words which when defined, make the whole Scientology movement &quot;make sense&quot; in the Hubbard theoretical senses of how Hubbard defines the soul, and what &quot;thetans&quot; are, versus what &quot;body-thetans&quot; are, and the distinctions of the OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 exorcism levels of Scientology, versus all the other pseudo-therapy levels of Scientology.

It&#039;s a public service to break down their information control they try to enforce on their members.  It&#039;s way more than mere mockery.  

As a Scientologist, I wish someone had come up to me and simply told me OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 were the exorcism levels of Scientology where &quot;body-thetans&quot; which are bodiless &quot;thetans&quot; which infest all humans, due to Xenu&#039;s earth dumping these mentally implanted/damaged &quot;thetans&quot; onto earth to roam earth and infest all humans ever since, and that OT 3, 4, 5 6 and 7 are the levels where the &quot;body-thetans&quot; all get exorcised off Scientologists.   I&#039;d have really been glad to have that defined, frankly.  You work for decades not knowing who Xenu was, nor what &quot;body-thetans&quot; are, nor that OT 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are the exorcism levels!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385412">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard,<br />
It&#8217;s not the mocking that &#8220;gets&#8221; them, it&#8217;s the taboo words.   They are NOT allowed internally to write in their records, the words &#8220;Xenu&#8221; and &#8220;body-thetans&#8221;.<br />
This isn&#8217;t just mocking them, this is throwing a simple wrench into their procedures of filming and photo taking, and sending out &#8220;lower level&#8221; Scientologists of any type, to confront outsiders.<br />
It&#8217;s the taboo words backfiring effect I believe will most greatly erode one of Scientology&#8217;s built in totalitarian &#8220;information control&#8221;.<br />
They cannot control being exposed to the taboo words that Hubbard says will cause them harm.<br />
When you expose them to the taboo words and define the taboo words to them, they do NOT get sick, contradicting Hubbard&#8217;s dire warnings about the taboo words and the defining explanations of their own beliefs, that the majority of the Sea Org staffs don&#8217;t even know their beliefs.<br />
It might come across as mockery, but learning who Xenu was, and what Xenu did, and what &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; are, and that OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are the exorcism levels of the movement, are huge in transparency about the beliefs that the members themselves are ignorant of what they are reaching for, namely to come do the exorcism levels of Scientology.<br />
Xenu and &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; are taboo words which when defined, make the whole Scientology movement &#8220;make sense&#8221; in the Hubbard theoretical senses of how Hubbard defines the soul, and what &#8220;thetans&#8221; are, versus what &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; are, and the distinctions of the OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 exorcism levels of Scientology, versus all the other pseudo-therapy levels of Scientology.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a public service to break down their information control they try to enforce on their members.  It&#8217;s way more than mere mockery.  </p>
<p>As a Scientologist, I wish someone had come up to me and simply told me OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 were the exorcism levels of Scientology where &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; which are bodiless &#8220;thetans&#8221; which infest all humans, due to Xenu&#8217;s earth dumping these mentally implanted/damaged &#8220;thetans&#8221; onto earth to roam earth and infest all humans ever since, and that OT 3, 4, 5 6 and 7 are the levels where the &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; all get exorcised off Scientologists.   I&#8217;d have really been glad to have that defined, frankly.  You work for decades not knowing who Xenu was, nor what &#8220;body-thetans&#8221; are, nor that OT 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are the exorcism levels!</p>
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		By: Susan Harbison		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 23:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385412&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

But everyone who is in believes in fair game, disconnection, etc. because they think it will never happen to them.

It is true you could mock any religion.  But this is a cult.  There is nothing religious about it.  That is the message that needs to be sent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385412">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>But everyone who is in believes in fair game, disconnection, etc. because they think it will never happen to them.</p>
<p>It is true you could mock any religion.  But this is a cult.  There is nothing religious about it.  That is the message that needs to be sent.</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.yahoo.com/news/tom-cruise-just-chopped-20-180034519.html

IS TOM CRUISE GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO HIS LUXURY CLEAR WATER PENTHOUSE??]]></description>
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<p>IS TOM CRUISE GETTING READY TO MOVE INTO HIS LUXURY CLEAR WATER PENTHOUSE??</p>
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		By: Balletlady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cult City Tour &#038; the Aftermath...


WISE BUILDING.....Yeee Gad....&#038; ALL this time I thought WISE was all about Potato Chips!

What an eye opener &#038; the reason that A &#038; E needs to brings this back to TV. Surprising  is that  there&#039;s nothing with COS logo on the building,,  there&#039;s nothing indicating so. MORE TV since some people  may not  go to Pod Casts

The Park Bench:  ALL are welcome or so the signage seems to indicate....HOWEVER....one &quot;little caveat is missing from the post sign.................

                           You are .NOT WELCOME if you are an S.P.   ..................OR if your face is recognized by their recording devices no doubt. 

Also not doubted would be &quot;screeners&quot; going over every gigabit of recorded tape for &quot;them&quot; to SEE just WHO was in attendance at this &quot;Clear Water City Tour&quot;.

It&#039;s been far too many decades since I visited Clear Water.  All that stopped once friends then living in  Clear Water have  SOLD &#038; LEFT Clear Water once &quot;things started to change&quot;.  Store fronts bought out by &quot;someone&quot;....making the original owners renters feel &quot;out of place&quot;.  

Locals stopped going &quot;down town&quot;...&quot;up Town&quot;...or anywhere in Clear Water as the sidewalks seemed to be filled by &quot;those people&quot;......all those military style school uniforms paraded up &#038; down streets....cameras around.....not for OUR security but for the security of &quot;someone else&quot;......what USE to be is long gone, &#038; how sad is that?

Wow,..... Thanks for the tour.....a real eye opener...........that broke my heart.]]></description>
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<p>WISE BUILDING&#8230;..Yeee Gad&#8230;.&amp; ALL this time I thought WISE was all about Potato Chips!</p>
<p>What an eye opener &amp; the reason that A &amp; E needs to brings this back to TV. Surprising  is that  there&#8217;s nothing with COS logo on the building,,  there&#8217;s nothing indicating so. MORE TV since some people  may not  go to Pod Casts</p>
<p>The Park Bench:  ALL are welcome or so the signage seems to indicate&#8230;.HOWEVER&#8230;.one &#8220;little caveat is missing from the post sign&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>                           You are .NOT WELCOME if you are an S.P.   &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;OR if your face is recognized by their recording devices no doubt. </p>
<p>Also not doubted would be &#8220;screeners&#8221; going over every gigabit of recorded tape for &#8220;them&#8221; to SEE just WHO was in attendance at this &#8220;Clear Water City Tour&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been far too many decades since I visited Clear Water.  All that stopped once friends then living in  Clear Water have  SOLD &amp; LEFT Clear Water once &#8220;things started to change&#8221;.  Store fronts bought out by &#8220;someone&#8221;&#8230;.making the original owners renters feel &#8220;out of place&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Locals stopped going &#8220;down town&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;up Town&#8221;&#8230;or anywhere in Clear Water as the sidewalks seemed to be filled by &#8220;those people&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;all those military style school uniforms paraded up &amp; down streets&#8230;.cameras around&#8230;..not for OUR security but for the security of &#8220;someone else&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;what USE to be is long gone, &amp; how sad is that?</p>
<p>Wow,&#8230;.. Thanks for the tour&#8230;..a real eye opener&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..that broke my heart.</p>
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		By: grisianfarce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385307&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Tony Ortega has shared a couple of videos today: https://tonyortega.org/2021/03/15/scientology-whistleblower-steve-fishman-out-of-prison-and-getting-younger-every-day/

Scroll past the Fishman update ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385307">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>Tony Ortega has shared a couple of videos today: <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2021/03/15/scientology-whistleblower-steve-fishman-out-of-prison-and-getting-younger-every-day/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://tonyortega.org/2021/03/15/scientology-whistleblower-steve-fishman-out-of-prison-and-getting-younger-every-day/</a></p>
<p>Scroll past the Fishman update &#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385376&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Mocking and confronting people about their &quot;silly beliefs&quot; could be used against any religion or religious cult. I recall some videos of people shouting at scientologists about Xenu and so on which to me seemed crude. Fair game, disconnection and bankruptcy as well as cult indoctrination is more rational criticism IMO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/cult-city-tour-and-the-aftermath-foundation/#comment-385376">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Mocking and confronting people about their &#8220;silly beliefs&#8221; could be used against any religion or religious cult. I recall some videos of people shouting at scientologists about Xenu and so on which to me seemed crude. Fair game, disconnection and bankruptcy as well as cult indoctrination is more rational criticism IMO.</p>
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		By: George		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2021 13:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was great to pop on to YouTube yesterday and see the tour in action . 
It looked well attended and walking the tour must have been incredibly rewarding  to those who have been in the decades long struggle with Scientology. 
 Marking Scientology with the camp  action of a tour , likens them to relic status. A thing of the past . Tired and out of date!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great to pop on to YouTube yesterday and see the tour in action .<br />
It looked well attended and walking the tour must have been incredibly rewarding  to those who have been in the decades long struggle with Scientology.<br />
 Marking Scientology with the camp  action of a tour , likens them to relic status. A thing of the past . Tired and out of date!</p>
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