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		By: Wendy Munro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy Munro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3134&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with your diagnosis Aquamarine. The RCS knows this and capitalises on it. They count on people not having time/access to look at the full reference, or the other references. They make people think (as I used to think) that it was unthinkable that their ethics could be anything less than perfect. A fundamental stable datum reinforced by the make wrong on me, and getting sent to ethics for small things. All that crap is what makes this blog (and others like it) so important. First the fundamental stable datum has to be wiggled a little before the lies can be yanked out like a rotten tooth. But then, once the false  datum gone, then I agree with Odd Thomas - it is mind boggling that intelligent scns cannot see the ship is going to sink and take them down with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3134">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with your diagnosis Aquamarine. The RCS knows this and capitalises on it. They count on people not having time/access to look at the full reference, or the other references. They make people think (as I used to think) that it was unthinkable that their ethics could be anything less than perfect. A fundamental stable datum reinforced by the make wrong on me, and getting sent to ethics for small things. All that crap is what makes this blog (and others like it) so important. First the fundamental stable datum has to be wiggled a little before the lies can be yanked out like a rotten tooth. But then, once the false  datum gone, then I agree with Odd Thomas &#8211; it is mind boggling that intelligent scns cannot see the ship is going to sink and take them down with it.</p>
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		By: sets guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sets guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 07:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3129&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

That and the constant state of fear sleep deprivation and North Korean brainwashing techniques which are in daily use.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3129">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>That and the constant state of fear sleep deprivation and North Korean brainwashing techniques which are in daily use.  🙂</p>
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		By: sets guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sets guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 05:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3129&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

Well it does seem that the more &quot;processing&quot; they get the stupider they become. Maybe hypnosis is not such a good tool to&quot;wake&quot; someone up?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3129">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>Well it does seem that the more &#8220;processing&#8221; they get the stupider they become. Maybe hypnosis is not such a good tool to&#8221;wake&#8221; someone up?</p>
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		By: Old School		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old School]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 03:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Napoleon?  More like Henry VIII.   At the next International &quot;event&quot; we&#039;ll see Miss Cabbage wearing the Ideal Codpiece]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Napoleon?  More like Henry VIII.   At the next International &#8220;event&#8221; we&#8217;ll see Miss Cabbage wearing the Ideal Codpiece</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3129&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

Intelligence and training can lose a lot of relevance and power when a being is operating off an uninspected fixed idea as his fundamental stable datum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3129">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>Intelligence and training can lose a lot of relevance and power when a being is operating off an uninspected fixed idea as his fundamental stable datum.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 22:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3112&quot;&gt;enccas&lt;/a&gt;.

Enccas,
You&#039;ve got to be kidding!  I&#039;ve always wondered what the excuse was for the fake cartoon non-graphs.  So the RCS needs to hold back the actual, specific,  booming stat data and communicate only vague statistical generalities to prevent the SPs from attacking?  Oh, brother!  What a freakin&#039; unbelievable whopper!!  And the OTs swallow this reasoning?  Oh  My   God.

Mr. Shakespeare, you said it well: : &quot;Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive&quot;.

Radical Church of Scientology, you are imploding.  Implode, baby, implode.]]></description>
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<p>Enccas,<br />
You&#8217;ve got to be kidding!  I&#8217;ve always wondered what the excuse was for the fake cartoon non-graphs.  So the RCS needs to hold back the actual, specific,  booming stat data and communicate only vague statistical generalities to prevent the SPs from attacking?  Oh, brother!  What a freakin&#8217; unbelievable whopper!!  And the OTs swallow this reasoning?  Oh  My   God.</p>
<p>Mr. Shakespeare, you said it well: : &#8220;Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive&#8221;.</p>
<p>Radical Church of Scientology, you are imploding.  Implode, baby, implode.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 21:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3108&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike, totally true.  .  I personally know one Clubbed Seal, who if/when shown this D/A pack will swallow it whole and probably not even read it but simply take it as fact on the urgings of the correct RCS &quot;Opinion Leaders&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3108">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Mike, totally true.  .  I personally know one Clubbed Seal, who if/when shown this D/A pack will swallow it whole and probably not even read it but simply take it as fact on the urgings of the correct RCS &#8220;Opinion Leaders&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 21:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3103&quot;&gt;Richard Grant&lt;/a&gt;.

Aside from the fact that I am optimistic by nature, after re-reading the D/A pack and all of the posts here on it  , I join those who opine that this is evidence of real trouble in Ideal Org Fundraising Land.

If Ideal Morgue fundraising stats were trending in an over-all acceptable way it would make no sense  for the RCS to respond directly to anything Marty and Mike and other &quot;squirrels&quot; would say on their blogs.

Looks to me  like what is being applied is Step One of the Danger Formula: &quot;Bypass habits and normal routines&quot;. Yes, I do see this as evidence that the truth IS getting out there enough to down the stats and really scare the bastards!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3103">Richard Grant</a>.</p>
<p>Aside from the fact that I am optimistic by nature, after re-reading the D/A pack and all of the posts here on it  , I join those who opine that this is evidence of real trouble in Ideal Org Fundraising Land.</p>
<p>If Ideal Morgue fundraising stats were trending in an over-all acceptable way it would make no sense  for the RCS to respond directly to anything Marty and Mike and other &#8220;squirrels&#8221; would say on their blogs.</p>
<p>Looks to me  like what is being applied is Step One of the Danger Formula: &#8220;Bypass habits and normal routines&#8221;. Yes, I do see this as evidence that the truth IS getting out there enough to down the stats and really scare the bastards!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 20:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3101&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed.  The Dwarf is a cornered rat (iwth apologies to rats as one of God&#039;s creatures).

So, fundraising is viable LRH policy, eh?  Yet, curiously LRH never followed his own policy?  And never wrote any Green-On-White on HOW to fundraise?  After all, Ron wrote policy on all activities from the mundane to the sublime.  He wrote policy on how to do laundry, on how to wash a car, for heaven&#039;s sake.  But not one HCOPL on this activity which is touted as vital for expansion - expansion, you know, that thing which spawned the Birthday Game...

See, this is why I have to make jokes sometimes, because otherwise I&#039;d be really depressed at the thought that there are people still in who will accept this and stay in the fold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dead-agent-david-miscavige-and-his-dead-orgs/#comment-3101">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed.  The Dwarf is a cornered rat (iwth apologies to rats as one of God&#8217;s creatures).</p>
<p>So, fundraising is viable LRH policy, eh?  Yet, curiously LRH never followed his own policy?  And never wrote any Green-On-White on HOW to fundraise?  After all, Ron wrote policy on all activities from the mundane to the sublime.  He wrote policy on how to do laundry, on how to wash a car, for heaven&#8217;s sake.  But not one HCOPL on this activity which is touted as vital for expansion &#8211; expansion, you know, that thing which spawned the Birthday Game&#8230;</p>
<p>See, this is why I have to make jokes sometimes, because otherwise I&#8217;d be really depressed at the thought that there are people still in who will accept this and stay in the fold.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 18:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess what gets my cookies frosted with all of this, is the numb-from-the-neck-up attitude assumed by current Corporate Scientologists, when it comes to evaluating what&#039;s in front of them.  Year after year, I see more truth seeping into the  &quot;groundwater&quot; and becoming available to all concerned and yet -- nothing happens. Scientologists of long standing, glare out into space when confronted with a smoking gun, and pretend it&#039;s just a prop. I haven&#039;t seen this many blank stares since my high school graduation. Nothing appears to impinge. Nothing seems to cut through the haze. It&#039;s right out of Orwell&#039;s 1984. The outpoint has become the norm and is gleefully accepted. It&#039;s actually quite scary. Like watching video clips from North Korea, where average people believe and repeat the most outrageous statements, failing to comprehend that what they&#039;re saying makes absolutely no sense and is not backed by anything they have actually seen.

I understand how someone without any education, can be made to believe the most incredible things, by twisting the truth and using force and fear to insert ideas into their own thinking.  But how do you get well educated, processed and trained individuals to act like morons, with such regularity? I&#039;m not saying it as a put down, but as a clinical fact. A moron, having an IQ in the 60-80 band, is not expected to be able to think much of anything through to a conclusion. He&#039;s expected to act, based on learned responses, with little to no reasoning involved. But a Scientologist?

I know many of the people out there. I know they are not inherently stupid; they have the sense, common and otherwise, to think things through. Yet they stand in the middle of the road, with a child&#039;s sense of wonderment, believing the truck will never hit them. Yikes!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess what gets my cookies frosted with all of this, is the numb-from-the-neck-up attitude assumed by current Corporate Scientologists, when it comes to evaluating what&#8217;s in front of them.  Year after year, I see more truth seeping into the  &#8220;groundwater&#8221; and becoming available to all concerned and yet &#8212; nothing happens. Scientologists of long standing, glare out into space when confronted with a smoking gun, and pretend it&#8217;s just a prop. I haven&#8217;t seen this many blank stares since my high school graduation. Nothing appears to impinge. Nothing seems to cut through the haze. It&#8217;s right out of Orwell&#8217;s 1984. The outpoint has become the norm and is gleefully accepted. It&#8217;s actually quite scary. Like watching video clips from North Korea, where average people believe and repeat the most outrageous statements, failing to comprehend that what they&#8217;re saying makes absolutely no sense and is not backed by anything they have actually seen.</p>
<p>I understand how someone without any education, can be made to believe the most incredible things, by twisting the truth and using force and fear to insert ideas into their own thinking.  But how do you get well educated, processed and trained individuals to act like morons, with such regularity? I&#8217;m not saying it as a put down, but as a clinical fact. A moron, having an IQ in the 60-80 band, is not expected to be able to think much of anything through to a conclusion. He&#8217;s expected to act, based on learned responses, with little to no reasoning involved. But a Scientologist?</p>
<p>I know many of the people out there. I know they are not inherently stupid; they have the sense, common and otherwise, to think things through. Yet they stand in the middle of the road, with a child&#8217;s sense of wonderment, believing the truck will never hit them. Yikes!</p>
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