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		By: The Simplicity of Scientology&#8217;s Fair Game on Declared Suppressive Persons &#124; The McClaughry&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2023 06:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] of OSA covert operations, until we re-organize and open up our research writings again, this collection by Mike Rinder will [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 13:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490410&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

Or the Mormons? They go back almost 200 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490410">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>Or the Mormons? They go back almost 200 years.</p>
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		By: Shermaund St John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shermaund St John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2022 12:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been a fan of podcasts surrounding cults for about a year and a half. I watched the Scientology documentary before I really knew what a cult was. Since then I have rewatched it and man... it is one of the best shows/documentaries I have seen in regards to exposing a cult. I also noticed something that I have not heard pointed out in the series or in the podcast. When Mike was taken out of the hole in order to defend the cult against rumors he looked significantly malnourished compared to other times he was in the public light. I feel like that is a clear example that what Mike was saying about being placed in the hole is 100% accurate. I know its a small detail but from the clips in documentary Mike looked sick and looked like he lost a significant amount of weight when denying the rumors that David was mistreating him. It was something I noticed and went &quot;oh shit, if you take what Mike said was happening to him before he was on TV and compare it to how he looked other times on TV or there is a correlation&quot;. Anyway like I stated, it is a small detail but one that I feel says alot about the truth behind what Mike and Leah were saying, the hole still exists and it is still being used for punishment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a fan of podcasts surrounding cults for about a year and a half. I watched the Scientology documentary before I really knew what a cult was. Since then I have rewatched it and man&#8230; it is one of the best shows/documentaries I have seen in regards to exposing a cult. I also noticed something that I have not heard pointed out in the series or in the podcast. When Mike was taken out of the hole in order to defend the cult against rumors he looked significantly malnourished compared to other times he was in the public light. I feel like that is a clear example that what Mike was saying about being placed in the hole is 100% accurate. I know its a small detail but from the clips in documentary Mike looked sick and looked like he lost a significant amount of weight when denying the rumors that David was mistreating him. It was something I noticed and went &#8220;oh shit, if you take what Mike said was happening to him before he was on TV and compare it to how he looked other times on TV or there is a correlation&#8221;. Anyway like I stated, it is a small detail but one that I feel says alot about the truth behind what Mike and Leah were saying, the hole still exists and it is still being used for punishment.</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490428</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 21:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubbard policy of dealing with critics backfires. 

Mountain View Police schools Mountain View Idle Morgue psycho staff member on 1st Amendment of U.S. Constitution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEiFjAtGgiA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbard policy of dealing with critics backfires. </p>
<p>Mountain View Police schools Mountain View Idle Morgue psycho staff member on 1st Amendment of U.S. Constitution:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEiFjAtGgiA" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEiFjAtGgiA</a></p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490410</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490399&quot;&gt;Mark Kamran&lt;/a&gt;.

What about Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490399">Mark Kamran</a>.</p>
<p>What about Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses?</p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Kamran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 11:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The lethal trap by Cults are mental conditioning,  blaming &quot;others&quot; to ones mistakes , this grant them instant acceptance by innocent ( less educated) public.

This ways the followers are always in UTOPIA of being perfect and they avoid  Mental Heatlh professionals , legal professionals,  law enforcement agencies,  University scholars etc. Cults do campaigning against them to keep their new recruits away from them.

That&#039;s how Cults flourishes on mental slavery which later turned into modern slavery liked bonded labour.

Read the history of Cults,  it&#039;s been going on since eons.

That&#039;s why no Cult survive more then 50 years .....no exceptions.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lethal trap by Cults are mental conditioning,  blaming &#8220;others&#8221; to ones mistakes , this grant them instant acceptance by innocent ( less educated) public.</p>
<p>This ways the followers are always in UTOPIA of being perfect and they avoid  Mental Heatlh professionals , legal professionals,  law enforcement agencies,  University scholars etc. Cults do campaigning against them to keep their new recruits away from them.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how Cults flourishes on mental slavery which later turned into modern slavery liked bonded labour.</p>
<p>Read the history of Cults,  it&#8217;s been going on since eons.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why no Cult survive more then 50 years &#8230;..no exceptions.<br />
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dealing-with-critics-of-scientology-the-l-ron-hubbard-playbook-2/#comment-490345</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred G. Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After rereading your original and important post (along with many of the comments), I&#039;ve come to this conclusion:

Scientology is a drug, and a Scientologist is a user.

Brian&#039;s Nov. 6, 2016 response to Foolproof started the ball rolling: &quot;Training is where you self inflict Hubbard&#039;s mind into your mind.&quot;

Self inflicted harm and intentional exposure to L. Ron Hubbard’s teachings is mind control, a technique used to keep an adherent in check. There are psychological consequences which are dangerous and long lasting. Since treatment outside of Scientology is forbidden, Scientology can impose said control with impunity. Brookdale Recovery&#039;s &quot;The 7 Stages of Addiction,&quot; however, is applicable to this situation:

Stage 1: Initiation. A person new to Scientology experiments with it out of curiosity (the end of the 2022 &quot;We Are Giants&quot; Scientology Super Bowl ad asks: &quot;Curious?&quot;).

Stage 3 (which follows Stage 2, Experimentation): Regular Use. This is where the user partakes of the drug on a regular basis (such as studying or auditing twelve-and-a-half hours a week). A mental reliance on Hubbard soon follows.

Stage 4: Risky Use. Frequent use (such as buying a block of auditing hours or a training package or upgrading one&#039;s Status), may lead to financial difficulties or even irregularities. A foretelling sign at this stage is evidence of drug paraphernalia (such as the Basics Book package, the Congress Lectures, or a Mark Ultra VIII E-Meter).

Stage 5: Dependence. Psychological dependence occurs when the user believes that he/she needs Hubbard in order to function like a normal person. Scientology drug effects include a feeling of euphoria (such as the &quot;high&quot; a person receives at the end of a Bridge auditing action).

Stage 6: Addiction. This occurs when the user can&#039;t get through life without Hubbard. At this point, the user looses all control of their actions and choices. Here is where a user actively avoids friends and family. A Stage 6 user will become out of touch with reality (that is, with the world outside of the Scientology &quot;bubble&quot;). Here, a user (such as an Office of Special Affairs Operative &quot;Fair Gaming&quot; a critic of Scientology -- which is, in effect, stealing that person&#039;s life and liberty) will fail to realize that their behaviors have become destructive.

Stage 7: Treatment. In order to maintain a life of recovery from the ravages of Hubbard, a user will need to commit to a complete change in lifestyle. Repeated visits to this blog will assist said recovery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After rereading your original and important post (along with many of the comments), I&#8217;ve come to this conclusion:</p>
<p>Scientology is a drug, and a Scientologist is a user.</p>
<p>Brian&#8217;s Nov. 6, 2016 response to Foolproof started the ball rolling: &#8220;Training is where you self inflict Hubbard&#8217;s mind into your mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>Self inflicted harm and intentional exposure to L. Ron Hubbard’s teachings is mind control, a technique used to keep an adherent in check. There are psychological consequences which are dangerous and long lasting. Since treatment outside of Scientology is forbidden, Scientology can impose said control with impunity. Brookdale Recovery&#8217;s &#8220;The 7 Stages of Addiction,&#8221; however, is applicable to this situation:</p>
<p>Stage 1: Initiation. A person new to Scientology experiments with it out of curiosity (the end of the 2022 &#8220;We Are Giants&#8221; Scientology Super Bowl ad asks: &#8220;Curious?&#8221;).</p>
<p>Stage 3 (which follows Stage 2, Experimentation): Regular Use. This is where the user partakes of the drug on a regular basis (such as studying or auditing twelve-and-a-half hours a week). A mental reliance on Hubbard soon follows.</p>
<p>Stage 4: Risky Use. Frequent use (such as buying a block of auditing hours or a training package or upgrading one&#8217;s Status), may lead to financial difficulties or even irregularities. A foretelling sign at this stage is evidence of drug paraphernalia (such as the Basics Book package, the Congress Lectures, or a Mark Ultra VIII E-Meter).</p>
<p>Stage 5: Dependence. Psychological dependence occurs when the user believes that he/she needs Hubbard in order to function like a normal person. Scientology drug effects include a feeling of euphoria (such as the &#8220;high&#8221; a person receives at the end of a Bridge auditing action).</p>
<p>Stage 6: Addiction. This occurs when the user can&#8217;t get through life without Hubbard. At this point, the user looses all control of their actions and choices. Here is where a user actively avoids friends and family. A Stage 6 user will become out of touch with reality (that is, with the world outside of the Scientology &#8220;bubble&#8221;). Here, a user (such as an Office of Special Affairs Operative &#8220;Fair Gaming&#8221; a critic of Scientology &#8212; which is, in effect, stealing that person&#8217;s life and liberty) will fail to realize that their behaviors have become destructive.</p>
<p>Stage 7: Treatment. In order to maintain a life of recovery from the ravages of Hubbard, a user will need to commit to a complete change in lifestyle. Repeated visits to this blog will assist said recovery.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Irreligious &quot;scriptures&quot; that still guide Scientology.

I remember when I was on the RPF&#039;s RPF in PAC, in about 2002, I asked one of the RPF&#039;s RPF MAA&#039;s Gigi Scudilari (an OSA Int staffer on the PAC RPF, there were in total about 7-8 OSA Int staff and outlying other OSA staff on the PAC RPF at that time in 2002, both Gigi and his wife were both on the RPF and both busted from OSA Int), and I was being critical, and I said to Gigi, 

&quot;What other religion has something like OSA &quot;

Gigi immediately without hesitation answered &quot;Opus Dei&quot; from the Catholic Church.

In his mind, OSA and these above policies listed today, in his mind were condonable, since OSA was just like Opus Dei was to the Catholic Church.

That&#039;d be a book that&#039;d likely sell, in some corners of the book selling world.   

&quot;Scientology&#039;s Office of Special Affairs/Guardian&#039;s Office vs the Catholic Church&#039;s Opus Dei&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irreligious &#8220;scriptures&#8221; that still guide Scientology.</p>
<p>I remember when I was on the RPF&#8217;s RPF in PAC, in about 2002, I asked one of the RPF&#8217;s RPF MAA&#8217;s Gigi Scudilari (an OSA Int staffer on the PAC RPF, there were in total about 7-8 OSA Int staff and outlying other OSA staff on the PAC RPF at that time in 2002, both Gigi and his wife were both on the RPF and both busted from OSA Int), and I was being critical, and I said to Gigi, </p>
<p>&#8220;What other religion has something like OSA &#8221;</p>
<p>Gigi immediately without hesitation answered &#8220;Opus Dei&#8221; from the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>In his mind, OSA and these above policies listed today, in his mind were condonable, since OSA was just like Opus Dei was to the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>That&#8217;d be a book that&#8217;d likely sell, in some corners of the book selling world.   </p>
<p>&#8220;Scientology&#8217;s Office of Special Affairs/Guardian&#8217;s Office vs the Catholic Church&#8217;s Opus Dei&#8221;</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frighteningly true. I have spoken in detail for years on YT (ToryMagoo44) about this.
This, imnsho, is a key reason they&#039;ve pulled the red and green volumes. My guess is scientology will try to water down any writings by Hubbard that ~show~ they are not a &quot;real religion&quot;
(Their goal). Tick...Tock <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frighteningly true. I have spoken in detail for years on YT (ToryMagoo44) about this.<br />
This, imnsho, is a key reason they&#8217;ve pulled the red and green volumes. My guess is scientology will try to water down any writings by Hubbard that ~show~ they are not a &#8220;real religion&#8221;<br />
(Their goal). Tick&#8230;Tock 🤣</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otherles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 19:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At least The Mafia changes.]]></description>
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