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		By: jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-227268</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219274&quot;&gt;jim&lt;/a&gt;.

That became obvious to me even before the late  &#039;80s insanities. I put Flog in the rearview mirrors in August, 1980.  Talk about a long-fall blowdown! My LFBD spanned 1,000 road  miles and 38  years (and still counting).  The resulting FN just gets bigger every August.  Looking forward to season 3!  Go Leah and Mike! Put that truth out there and watch the tiny dictator squirm like a cockroach in the light.  No, make that COCKroach caught out,considering who we&#039;re referring to. he DOES seem to be obsessed with SCOHB, isn&#039;t he?  Is he JEALOUS?  Only Shelly (and his current deputy) know for sure.  Is it possible Shelly&#039;s in hiding to get away from him and his insanities, not that he&#039;s gotten rid of her as an embarassment?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219274">jim</a>.</p>
<p>That became obvious to me even before the late  &#8217;80s insanities. I put Flog in the rearview mirrors in August, 1980.  Talk about a long-fall blowdown! My LFBD spanned 1,000 road  miles and 38  years (and still counting).  The resulting FN just gets bigger every August.  Looking forward to season 3!  Go Leah and Mike! Put that truth out there and watch the tiny dictator squirm like a cockroach in the light.  No, make that COCKroach caught out,considering who we&#8217;re referring to. he DOES seem to be obsessed with SCOHB, isn&#8217;t he?  Is he JEALOUS?  Only Shelly (and his current deputy) know for sure.  Is it possible Shelly&#8217;s in hiding to get away from him and his insanities, not that he&#8217;s gotten rid of her as an embarassment?</p>
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		By: jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-227264</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219265&quot;&gt;Kronomex&lt;/a&gt;.

Yup! He&#039;s the guy who graduated from writing pulf [pulp/puff] fiction to fictional science. He also claimed to write science fiction, but his readers complained about his playing too loose with his &quot;science&quot; even in that arena during the &#039;30s.  His apologists are hard-pressed to point to TWO examples of good sci-fi he authored.  There&#039;s not one example of his that sci-fi fans in general  will know.  Contrast that with REAL authors of sci-fi&#039;s golden era.  If I throw out Asimov or Heinlein, I bet every reader here will flash on at least one work of theirs that stands out. Each of them has at least 1 decent fairly-current movie based on their work.  Tubby only has one ever; Probably the WORST movie ever made.  Truthfully now, has ANYone watched Battlefield Earth straight through who wasn&#039;t paid to, or possibly shamed into it by their still-in peers??  Is there any wonder why Travolta has done nothing of note since? [Did he do anything of note before?]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219265">Kronomex</a>.</p>
<p>Yup! He&#8217;s the guy who graduated from writing pulf [pulp/puff] fiction to fictional science. He also claimed to write science fiction, but his readers complained about his playing too loose with his &#8220;science&#8221; even in that arena during the &#8217;30s.  His apologists are hard-pressed to point to TWO examples of good sci-fi he authored.  There&#8217;s not one example of his that sci-fi fans in general  will know.  Contrast that with REAL authors of sci-fi&#8217;s golden era.  If I throw out Asimov or Heinlein, I bet every reader here will flash on at least one work of theirs that stands out. Each of them has at least 1 decent fairly-current movie based on their work.  Tubby only has one ever; Probably the WORST movie ever made.  Truthfully now, has ANYone watched Battlefield Earth straight through who wasn&#8217;t paid to, or possibly shamed into it by their still-in peers??  Is there any wonder why Travolta has done nothing of note since? [Did he do anything of note before?]</p>
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		By: jere Lull (37 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-227260</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2018 19:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219581&quot;&gt;fredbasset1&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, according to the OT III material, for about half of our BTs, there is a DIRECT link to the volcanoes of Hawaii.  &#039;Course, neither Hawaii nor the Canaries -- not even the Atlantic ocean-- were there 70 million years ago. He couldn&#039;t master Algebra, FFS. How could he be expected to embrace plate tectonics?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219581">fredbasset1</a>.</p>
<p>Well, according to the OT III material, for about half of our BTs, there is a DIRECT link to the volcanoes of Hawaii.  &#8216;Course, neither Hawaii nor the Canaries &#8212; not even the Atlantic ocean&#8211; were there 70 million years ago. He couldn&#8217;t master Algebra, FFS. How could he be expected to embrace plate tectonics?</p>
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		By: fredbasset1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 07:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219382&quot;&gt;peterl&lt;/a&gt;.

I think there is a symbolic link between Dianetics and the volcanoes of Hawaii.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219382">peterl</a>.</p>
<p>I think there is a symbolic link between Dianetics and the volcanoes of Hawaii.</p>
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		By: ctempster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 18:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219383&quot;&gt;Peggy L&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes Peggy, I think they have to keep you thinking you&#039;re broken or aberrated.  That way they can keep telling you that the next intensive or the next course will cure you.  So you keep paying money for the next thing and the next thing.  They never allow you to actually reach an end point because they want your money.  

But when the Ideal Org buy real estate and fix it up scheme came down the pike, that was the perfect solution!  It satisfied the IRS to continue to grant them status as a church, it got loads of money in, and there was no actual delivery of services, so it was labor-free because no auditors or course supervisors were needed to deliver it..  If DM figured out this scheme, then he is very smart.  (and cunning and conniving and conning, and...)  Also I agree with your take on the RPF.  He put those in the hole who he felt threatened by..  What a shame that some have stayed there for years, decades because he broke them (Heber.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219383">Peggy L</a>.</p>
<p>Yes Peggy, I think they have to keep you thinking you&#8217;re broken or aberrated.  That way they can keep telling you that the next intensive or the next course will cure you.  So you keep paying money for the next thing and the next thing.  They never allow you to actually reach an end point because they want your money.  </p>
<p>But when the Ideal Org buy real estate and fix it up scheme came down the pike, that was the perfect solution!  It satisfied the IRS to continue to grant them status as a church, it got loads of money in, and there was no actual delivery of services, so it was labor-free because no auditors or course supervisors were needed to deliver it..  If DM figured out this scheme, then he is very smart.  (and cunning and conniving and conning, and&#8230;)  Also I agree with your take on the RPF.  He put those in the hole who he felt threatened by..  What a shame that some have stayed there for years, decades because he broke them (Heber.)</p>
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		By: Peggy L		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 10:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219357&quot;&gt;ctempster&lt;/a&gt;.

That is very very interesting. So, it was arbitrary scoring by the person grading the test. You are set up to fail no matter what. I got that same impression about those who Miscavige sent to the hole, or whatever punishment was doled out. It really didn&#039;t matter what they did, didn&#039;t do, said, didn&#039;t say. He already had a bulls eye on the person, and just my personal opinion, anyone who he thought was a threat to him whether real or imagined. He is paranoid, well, of course, also arrogant, dishonest, cowardly, greedy, and a lot of other adjectives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219357">ctempster</a>.</p>
<p>That is very very interesting. So, it was arbitrary scoring by the person grading the test. You are set up to fail no matter what. I got that same impression about those who Miscavige sent to the hole, or whatever punishment was doled out. It really didn&#8217;t matter what they did, didn&#8217;t do, said, didn&#8217;t say. He already had a bulls eye on the person, and just my personal opinion, anyone who he thought was a threat to him whether real or imagined. He is paranoid, well, of course, also arrogant, dishonest, cowardly, greedy, and a lot of other adjectives.</p>
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		By: peterl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 09:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So it ruins Miscavages scuba trip eh , well ..... since the cover of their book of lies has a volcano on it and he seems to like scuba diving how about he take a dip in Kilauea since it&#039;s kicking off at the moment .... just a thought]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it ruins Miscavages scuba trip eh , well &#8230;.. since the cover of their book of lies has a volcano on it and he seems to like scuba diving how about he take a dip in Kilauea since it&#8217;s kicking off at the moment &#8230;. just a thought</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 04:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219339&quot;&gt;Peter Norton&lt;/a&gt;.

Wise words, Peter!  All we ever really have is NOW.  And &quot;now&quot; precious, and we&#039;ll never have THIS &quot;now&quot; again.  Thanks for reminding me :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219339">Peter Norton</a>.</p>
<p>Wise words, Peter!  All we ever really have is NOW.  And &#8220;now&#8221; precious, and we&#8217;ll never have THIS &#8220;now&#8221; again.  Thanks for reminding me 🙂</p>
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		By: ctempster		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2018 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219305&quot;&gt;Peter Norton&lt;/a&gt;.

Peter, over time with auditing, my OCA graph rose to where all points were at the top.  They couldn;t have this because there is no money making if you&#039;re &quot;OK.&quot;  So they told me that my graph showed I was &quot;theetie wheetie&quot; which was lowest of them all.  Oh really?  If I was so low, why did I feel so good and function fairly well?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/dianetics-dissembling/#comment-219305">Peter Norton</a>.</p>
<p>Peter, over time with auditing, my OCA graph rose to where all points were at the top.  They couldn;t have this because there is no money making if you&#8217;re &#8220;OK.&#8221;  So they told me that my graph showed I was &#8220;theetie wheetie&#8221; which was lowest of them all.  Oh really?  If I was so low, why did I feel so good and function fairly well?</p>
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		By: Peter Norton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 22:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Despite all our upsets, angers and condemnations, every single one of us MADE THOSE CHOICES.  Looking back at being fooled, buying nonsense, spending thousands...and for some, far, far more, etc, in the end I&#039;ve had to look back and see that every step of the way I coulda/shoulda seen the light...but didn&#039;t.  The real key is:  WE ARE NOW OUT!  GOOD ON US.  CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF US FOR FINALLY &quot;GETTING IT!&quot;  For some, years.  For others, decades.  So what?

I got some valuable (for me) information.  I got the beginning of the very best marriage I could ever have imagined.  And I&#039;m STILL learning.

Leave the shit behind, dear friends, and pat yourself on the back for the fact that you DID &quot;GET IT&quot;...and left.  Heal those wounds.  The sun still come up each morning.  There are still tons of love and laughter in the world.  Take a deep breath and get on with your life in the most positive ways you can imagine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite all our upsets, angers and condemnations, every single one of us MADE THOSE CHOICES.  Looking back at being fooled, buying nonsense, spending thousands&#8230;and for some, far, far more, etc, in the end I&#8217;ve had to look back and see that every step of the way I coulda/shoulda seen the light&#8230;but didn&#8217;t.  The real key is:  WE ARE NOW OUT!  GOOD ON US.  CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF US FOR FINALLY &#8220;GETTING IT!&#8221;  For some, years.  For others, decades.  So what?</p>
<p>I got some valuable (for me) information.  I got the beginning of the very best marriage I could ever have imagined.  And I&#8217;m STILL learning.</p>
<p>Leave the shit behind, dear friends, and pat yourself on the back for the fact that you DID &#8220;GET IT&#8221;&#8230;and left.  Heal those wounds.  The sun still come up each morning.  There are still tons of love and laughter in the world.  Take a deep breath and get on with your life in the most positive ways you can imagine.</p>
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