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		By: Raphael		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wish to post comments here. But I see so many ppl still using Scamology&#039;s awful atrocious lingo. Any of those words makes my blood boil. I was a slave to Scamology for 18 years and been subjected to their influence growing up for the previous 18 years. Please ppl stop using that <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f92e.png" alt="🤮" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> lingo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to post comments here. But I see so many ppl still using Scamology&#8217;s awful atrocious lingo. Any of those words makes my blood boil. I was a slave to Scamology for 18 years and been subjected to their influence growing up for the previous 18 years. Please ppl stop using that 🤮 lingo</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2022 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487211&quot;&gt;Dead Man Talking Bill Straass&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s what I do with my &#039;memos to Dave&#039; segment. Just try to have fun. And I mean no disrespect toward Mary Kahn or anyone on this blog. One of the reasons I could never cut it in the cherch is because I am too much of a joker and degrader. Which, as you know, is a no no in the cult. Anyway, I hope all is well with you and hope you have a wonderful holiday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487211">Dead Man Talking Bill Straass</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I do with my &#8216;memos to Dave&#8217; segment. Just try to have fun. And I mean no disrespect toward Mary Kahn or anyone on this blog. One of the reasons I could never cut it in the cherch is because I am too much of a joker and degrader. Which, as you know, is a no no in the cult. Anyway, I hope all is well with you and hope you have a wonderful holiday.</p>
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		By: safetyguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 11:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487194&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Word salad.  It sounded evil when they thought about it so they put it in print.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487194">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Word salad.  It sounded evil when they thought about it so they put it in print.</p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 01:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487153&quot;&gt;safetyguy&lt;/a&gt;.

<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />

That&#039;s why  they are a.k.a Comedy Circus <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f3aa.png" alt="🎪" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> 

Not a single achievement in 70 years except couple of (aging) Hollywood celebrities and imaginary expansion, mostly on long term lease.

That&#039;s why we predicted beginning of Age of Extinction 2025.

It&#039;s not me ,it&#039;s written on the wall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487153">safetyguy</a>.</p>
<p>🤣🤣🤣🤣</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why  they are a.k.a Comedy Circus 🎪 </p>
<p>Not a single achievement in 70 years except couple of (aging) Hollywood celebrities and imaginary expansion, mostly on long term lease.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we predicted beginning of Age of Extinction 2025.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not me ,it&#8217;s written on the wall.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 01:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487192&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

Just to clarify my own conscience on this. I find nothing wrong with the basic therapy of Dianetics and the lower levels of Scientology. I&#039;ve had a lot of fun with them in the past and there&#039;s no denying there is some mental relief and laughter generated by its application.
What is evil about it is the writing and lectures of the philosophy/policy behind it strewn with contradictions, self importance, and an obsessive desire of domination over others. It doesn&#039;t deliver what it ultimately promises (you can&#039;t deliver what doesn&#039;t exist) and anything good in it is used as a bait &#038; switch operation for an evil management to steal the life and money out of people - it is a true and nasty cult and a dangerous one at that. It cares nothing about the well being of others and only exists today by the greed, wealth and subjugation of thousands of people who were duped into believing they were helping mankind as a whole. It can afford to pay countless lawyers and play the legal system to an incredible degree, plus some powerful people in the shadows rubs their hands together in satisfaction at the way Scientology is today, hey Marty, TC, etc?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487192">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>Just to clarify my own conscience on this. I find nothing wrong with the basic therapy of Dianetics and the lower levels of Scientology. I&#8217;ve had a lot of fun with them in the past and there&#8217;s no denying there is some mental relief and laughter generated by its application.<br />
What is evil about it is the writing and lectures of the philosophy/policy behind it strewn with contradictions, self importance, and an obsessive desire of domination over others. It doesn&#8217;t deliver what it ultimately promises (you can&#8217;t deliver what doesn&#8217;t exist) and anything good in it is used as a bait &amp; switch operation for an evil management to steal the life and money out of people &#8211; it is a true and nasty cult and a dangerous one at that. It cares nothing about the well being of others and only exists today by the greed, wealth and subjugation of thousands of people who were duped into believing they were helping mankind as a whole. It can afford to pay countless lawyers and play the legal system to an incredible degree, plus some powerful people in the shadows rubs their hands together in satisfaction at the way Scientology is today, hey Marty, TC, etc?</p>
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		By: Dead Man Talking Bill Straass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alcoboy: No disrespect, Sir, but don&#039;t fuck with Mary. I know that you were just having fun.
      Fun? I admit, openly, that I had some fun while in the S.O. The only way to have &quot;fun&quot; is to have &quot;Other Fish to Fry&quot;. In other words, fun is OUT ETHICS. Xxx
      I guess that I am an Out Ethics MF er.  
      20 years ago the Captain Freewinds who had screamed at me that he was the Only Right Arm Captain in the Sea Organization and that no-one could tell him what to do  ( maybe one person Could; but he (DM) would never do it) . He told my then wife that my death was imminent. 
        He was not lying then; he was telling the truth. 
        There are two ways of telling the truth in Scientology; 
 1. Saying what actually happened and 2. Making what will happen correspond with what you said will soon happen.
        He ordered my wife to &quot;End Cycle&quot; on me saying that I would be dead soon  as no- one could help me (I was dying of HIV AIDS from a blood products given me while I was a crew member on the Freewinds).
       But he was not lying. He was making damn sure that what he he said (and ordered) was the God&#039;s honest truth by sending me to a Chiropractor (LRH&#039;s chiropractor) James M Kepler who told me when we first met that he had never seen an HIV/AIDS patient. He needed my wife to &quot; End Cycle&quot; on me or risk that she might tell me to see a doctor. 
        There is a Flag Order that could be used here to explain this. It goes like this: A senior talks to a junior and says: This is fucked up and the junior says that &quot; Chief Petty Officer Jenks is handling that now, Sir. (Jenks does not know about it yet)
        Captain Napier was &quot;handling&quot; it by making damn sure that I was DEAD by ensuring that I would never see any kind of person who knew a whit about HIV/AIDS. 
       If he had pulled it off I would have no beef with him (because I would be dead). 
       It is just because he knew that my wife was the daughter of the first Black Captain in the United States Coast Guard and he could not allow her to talk to him or risk the U.S. military coming to get her.
       I confess that I made 2 major mistakes; either of which almost cost me my life. 1. I could have called him myself. He would have picked up the phone and a USCG cutter would have pulled up to the Freewinds and a boarding party would have gotten my wife off of the Freewinds.  And 2. My father was talking about calling the FBI as he thought that my wife was being held against her will( which she was). 
       The moral of this story is simply that not only are they lying mutherfuckers but would rather see one of their senior engineers DEAD than get their own fucking Ethics In.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcoboy: No disrespect, Sir, but don&#8217;t fuck with Mary. I know that you were just having fun.<br />
      Fun? I admit, openly, that I had some fun while in the S.O. The only way to have &#8220;fun&#8221; is to have &#8220;Other Fish to Fry&#8221;. In other words, fun is OUT ETHICS. Xxx<br />
      I guess that I am an Out Ethics MF er.<br />
      20 years ago the Captain Freewinds who had screamed at me that he was the Only Right Arm Captain in the Sea Organization and that no-one could tell him what to do  ( maybe one person Could; but he (DM) would never do it) . He told my then wife that my death was imminent.<br />
        He was not lying then; he was telling the truth.<br />
        There are two ways of telling the truth in Scientology;<br />
 1. Saying what actually happened and 2. Making what will happen correspond with what you said will soon happen.<br />
        He ordered my wife to &#8220;End Cycle&#8221; on me saying that I would be dead soon  as no- one could help me (I was dying of HIV AIDS from a blood products given me while I was a crew member on the Freewinds).<br />
       But he was not lying. He was making damn sure that what he he said (and ordered) was the God&#8217;s honest truth by sending me to a Chiropractor (LRH&#8217;s chiropractor) James M Kepler who told me when we first met that he had never seen an HIV/AIDS patient. He needed my wife to &#8221; End Cycle&#8221; on me or risk that she might tell me to see a doctor.<br />
        There is a Flag Order that could be used here to explain this. It goes like this: A senior talks to a junior and says: This is fucked up and the junior says that &#8221; Chief Petty Officer Jenks is handling that now, Sir. (Jenks does not know about it yet)<br />
        Captain Napier was &#8220;handling&#8221; it by making damn sure that I was DEAD by ensuring that I would never see any kind of person who knew a whit about HIV/AIDS.<br />
       If he had pulled it off I would have no beef with him (because I would be dead).<br />
       It is just because he knew that my wife was the daughter of the first Black Captain in the United States Coast Guard and he could not allow her to talk to him or risk the U.S. military coming to get her.<br />
       I confess that I made 2 major mistakes; either of which almost cost me my life. 1. I could have called him myself. He would have picked up the phone and a USCG cutter would have pulled up to the Freewinds and a boarding party would have gotten my wife off of the Freewinds.  And 2. My father was talking about calling the FBI as he thought that my wife was being held against her will( which she was).<br />
       The moral of this story is simply that not only are they lying mutherfuckers but would rather see one of their senior engineers DEAD than get their own fucking Ethics In.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 00:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487200&quot;&gt;Mat Pesch&lt;/a&gt;.

Mat -- I could not agree with you more. Two nicer and more professional gentlemen would be hard to find. And their almost manic quest for accuracy and genuine concern for the well-being of the people they were reporting on was and is impressive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/did-scientology-lie-of-course/#comment-487200">Mat Pesch</a>.</p>
<p>Mat &#8212; I could not agree with you more. Two nicer and more professional gentlemen would be hard to find. And their almost manic quest for accuracy and genuine concern for the well-being of the people they were reporting on was and is impressive.</p>
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		By: Gus Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 23:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology doth project too much.  While they have accused others of - what was it?  verifiable bullshit? - here they are with a big pile of verifiable bullshit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology doth project too much.  While they have accused others of &#8211; what was it?  verifiable bullshit? &#8211; here they are with a big pile of verifiable bullshit.</p>
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		By: Mat Pesch		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I was on staff in Scientology at Flag we were always told that the Tampa Bay Times and its reporters were evil, suppressive and criminal liars.  When I got out of Scientology I went to the Tampa Bay Times and met with reporters Tom Tobin and Joe Childs.  The thing that really surprised me was how caring, honest and professional they were.  It really stood out and was exactly 180 degrees from the picture Scientology painted.  It was a real eye opener and another layer of Scientology&#039;s lies peeled away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I was on staff in Scientology at Flag we were always told that the Tampa Bay Times and its reporters were evil, suppressive and criminal liars.  When I got out of Scientology I went to the Tampa Bay Times and met with reporters Tom Tobin and Joe Childs.  The thing that really surprised me was how caring, honest and professional they were.  It really stood out and was exactly 180 degrees from the picture Scientology painted.  It was a real eye opener and another layer of Scientology&#8217;s lies peeled away.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 22:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How can a newspaper have an &quot;incestuous&quot; relationship with &quot;apostates?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can a newspaper have an &#8220;incestuous&#8221; relationship with &#8220;apostates?&#8221;</p>
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