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		By: Espiritu		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65637</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was my privilege and I feel honored by having had the opportunity to march with MLK back then. 
Doing so wasn&#039;t the &quot;popular&quot; thing to do in the beginning.
It was also a little scary at times. The DC cops were not there to protect us. They tried to intimidate us and get us to react violently in response. They spit on us. I saw  mounted police ride through a crowd purposefully injuring people who were sitting peacefully on the lawn listening to MLK. Times have changed so much and the rule of law has replaced a lot of tyranny since then. My only contribution was only to be there.             
But MLK was whole nother story.  
He was a powerful leader who had an ability to lead people to see that right makes might rather than the other way around. He changed America and he changed the world. If he had not been assassinated I think he might have become the first African-American president.   Maybe that&#039;s why he was assassinated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was my privilege and I feel honored by having had the opportunity to march with MLK back then.<br />
Doing so wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;popular&#8221; thing to do in the beginning.<br />
It was also a little scary at times. The DC cops were not there to protect us. They tried to intimidate us and get us to react violently in response. They spit on us. I saw  mounted police ride through a crowd purposefully injuring people who were sitting peacefully on the lawn listening to MLK. Times have changed so much and the rule of law has replaced a lot of tyranny since then. My only contribution was only to be there.<br />
But MLK was whole nother story.<br />
He was a powerful leader who had an ability to lead people to see that right makes might rather than the other way around. He changed America and he changed the world. If he had not been assassinated I think he might have become the first African-American president.   Maybe that&#8217;s why he was assassinated.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65575&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Hallie, I love life. It is so marvelous. The challenges and victories..... just wonderful. 
My goals of spiritual awareness and joy have never been better. I have never lost sight of the goal for one minute in all these years. 
I am even grateful for my experience with Scientology.

It took me many years to unravel what was true for me and what was wrong knowledge. What was brilliant from Ron and what was his personal mental problems.

Truth is truth. And the truths I learned I am grateful. And the lies I resolved gave me a strength and fortitude to differentiate between the real and unreal.

I am grateful for being a blind believer. I now know what giving my power of sovereign thought away to others feels like. And the personality distortions it reaps on me through Ron&#039;s fallacious scientism being unquestioned because of fear of violent retribution or being perceived as evil.

To equate criticism of Hubbard as evil, something he instilled in us, is the defeat of reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65575">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Hallie, I love life. It is so marvelous. The challenges and victories&#8230;.. just wonderful.<br />
My goals of spiritual awareness and joy have never been better. I have never lost sight of the goal for one minute in all these years.<br />
I am even grateful for my experience with Scientology.</p>
<p>It took me many years to unravel what was true for me and what was wrong knowledge. What was brilliant from Ron and what was his personal mental problems.</p>
<p>Truth is truth. And the truths I learned I am grateful. And the lies I resolved gave me a strength and fortitude to differentiate between the real and unreal.</p>
<p>I am grateful for being a blind believer. I now know what giving my power of sovereign thought away to others feels like. And the personality distortions it reaps on me through Ron&#8217;s fallacious scientism being unquestioned because of fear of violent retribution or being perceived as evil.</p>
<p>To equate criticism of Hubbard as evil, something he instilled in us, is the defeat of reason.</p>
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		By: Yossi		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65581</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yossi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,
I totally agree with your publishing the Disconnection story again. It makes us remember and reminded of the cruel, unjust and paranoidic enforcers of Disconnection. I want to spell out several examples of &quot;friends&quot; that disconnected from me and my wife Ronit. I put &quot;friends&quot; in quotation marks because true friends with integrity would stand up for you.
When I voiced my real opinion and about Church&#039;s Tech squareling and mistreating staff to an Israeli Scientologist I have know for over 15 years, she wrote to us a disconnection letter the next day. This was even before we went public with our story. Another Israeli Scientologist has requested Ronit to unfriend a &quot;declared person&quot; on FB, while her own son was friends with that person on FB. When I was routing out of the SO, I was threatened by the then Staff MAA, Matt Wolfe, the same that was appointed to be an Executive at AOLA, that I will never see my sons again, if I live the SO. This was done on numeral occasions. Before going public with our story, we passed it along  to the Scientology Israeli community in the US and Israel and none of the &quot;loyal-to-the-Church friends&quot; had guts to write back. About 300 people have &quot;un-friended&quot; Ronit from FB.
The cruel &quot;disconnection&quot; policy has to be repeated and voiced here and it will encourage more people to speak up their personal experience that are happening every single day.
Thank you Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
I totally agree with your publishing the Disconnection story again. It makes us remember and reminded of the cruel, unjust and paranoidic enforcers of Disconnection. I want to spell out several examples of &#8220;friends&#8221; that disconnected from me and my wife Ronit. I put &#8220;friends&#8221; in quotation marks because true friends with integrity would stand up for you.<br />
When I voiced my real opinion and about Church&#8217;s Tech squareling and mistreating staff to an Israeli Scientologist I have know for over 15 years, she wrote to us a disconnection letter the next day. This was even before we went public with our story. Another Israeli Scientologist has requested Ronit to unfriend a &#8220;declared person&#8221; on FB, while her own son was friends with that person on FB. When I was routing out of the SO, I was threatened by the then Staff MAA, Matt Wolfe, the same that was appointed to be an Executive at AOLA, that I will never see my sons again, if I live the SO. This was done on numeral occasions. Before going public with our story, we passed it along  to the Scientology Israeli community in the US and Israel and none of the &#8220;loyal-to-the-Church friends&#8221; had guts to write back. About 300 people have &#8220;un-friended&#8221; Ronit from FB.<br />
The cruel &#8220;disconnection&#8221; policy has to be repeated and voiced here and it will encourage more people to speak up their personal experience that are happening every single day.<br />
Thank you Mike.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65482&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow Brian, that was really horrible, truly evil.  I hope you&#039;re thriving now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65482">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Wow Brian, that was really horrible, truly evil.  I hope you&#8217;re thriving now.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to keep, at the fore, the subjects of child abuse, child neglect and child endangerment which have a strong relationship to disconnection.  How many children have been adversely effected by this vile practice of losing important family members, that could be contributing to their well being or development?  This is a form of child abuse/neglect in my opinion, to abandon one&#039;s duty to the children in your life, especially because of some arbitrary, capricious and vapid decision on the part of an ill trained, ill educated &quot;ethics&quot; officer.  Think!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to keep, at the fore, the subjects of child abuse, child neglect and child endangerment which have a strong relationship to disconnection.  How many children have been adversely effected by this vile practice of losing important family members, that could be contributing to their well being or development?  This is a form of child abuse/neglect in my opinion, to abandon one&#8217;s duty to the children in your life, especially because of some arbitrary, capricious and vapid decision on the part of an ill trained, ill educated &#8220;ethics&#8221; officer.  Think!</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65503&quot;&gt;DollarMorgue&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes!  Karma&#039;s a bitch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65503">DollarMorgue</a>.</p>
<p>Yes!  Karma&#8217;s a bitch.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65501&quot;&gt;Cindy P&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Cindy P!   Silence is the heinous, vile sub-product of disconnection.   A veil of fear pervades the atmosphere in the church because if you SPEAK, say something, that you actually and really feel, you will be ostracized  by your group, family, work.   THINK ABOUT THAT.  You are giving up your first amendment rights, you&#039;re giving up your human rights, you&#039;re giving up your INTEGRITY.  There will be no spiritual advancement, no enlightenment, NO case gain without integrity.  INTEGRITY IS EVERYTHING.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65501">Cindy P</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Cindy P!   Silence is the heinous, vile sub-product of disconnection.   A veil of fear pervades the atmosphere in the church because if you SPEAK, say something, that you actually and really feel, you will be ostracized  by your group, family, work.   THINK ABOUT THAT.  You are giving up your first amendment rights, you&#8217;re giving up your human rights, you&#8217;re giving up your INTEGRITY.  There will be no spiritual advancement, no enlightenment, NO case gain without integrity.  INTEGRITY IS EVERYTHING.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65498&quot;&gt;Sara Goldberg&lt;/a&gt;.

Great report Sara.  It looks like the current product, that the rcs is achieving these days is disconnection...straight up and vertical.  The sheer quantity of expelled members is such an outpoint in itself, and it&#039;s due to limiting free speech??!!   This is so much more tantalizing and salacious than the wins of pcs/preots and well trained auditors and SO much less work.  Well done on being true to your son!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65498">Sara Goldberg</a>.</p>
<p>Great report Sara.  It looks like the current product, that the rcs is achieving these days is disconnection&#8230;straight up and vertical.  The sheer quantity of expelled members is such an outpoint in itself, and it&#8217;s due to limiting free speech??!!   This is so much more tantalizing and salacious than the wins of pcs/preots and well trained auditors and SO much less work.  Well done on being true to your son!</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65497&quot;&gt;Don&#039;t Want to be Harrased&lt;/a&gt;.

+100!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65497">Don&#8217;t Want to be Harrased</a>.</p>
<p>+100!</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65552&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

McCarran that was for you for your comment above.  How about, for dm/osa, STOP LYING!  That would be point &quot;A&quot;.   And thank you very much for fighting for your son, as only a true mother would do.  You&#039;re awesome!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-and-desegregation/#comment-65552">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>McCarran that was for you for your comment above.  How about, for dm/osa, STOP LYING!  That would be point &#8220;A&#8221;.   And thank you very much for fighting for your son, as only a true mother would do.  You&#8217;re awesome!</p>
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