Laugher…”SOLO NUTs”…good one 🙂

Mike, this is just to quickly acknowledge Cindy below.

“…to handle YOU on your KR” Amazing! Out tech, off policy, out ethics -blatantly so. And then, yes, Marty’s blog. It was just the landing place needed right then, and notwithstanding what occurred afterwards with his horrific betrayal of theclose friends and associates who had totally trusted him, still, for his having that blog back then, I’ll always be grateful.

Aqua, with all your showing them LRH references, quoting the refs, etc that you did, I’m surprised they didn’t com ev you right there. I KRed some SO members and all it got me was two MAA’s at my door, meter in hand, unannounced, to “handle you on your KR.” Ha! I didn’t play their game.

As an aside here, I, like Aqua, landed on Marty Rathbun’s blog and that is where I started learning what was really going on. It was before Mike R started his blog. So as much as we gnash our teeth and call Marty a traitor (which he is), he did provide a place for all of us to read, to see, to learn, to decompress and gain our bearings. I’m thankful for that.

Yes, thanks!

Cindy, not to beat this to death, but I showed them all KINDS of LRH references,

References wherein he almost BEGS them to just stick to the “program” (his tech and policy) and deliver auditing and training. References about rewarding upstats (and what would be more indicative of an “upstat” than a trained auditor?) References about what he thinks of auditors and the reference about how auditors are senior to Clears. Last but not least, having completed the Data Series, I pointed out to them that NOWHERE does Hubbard state ANYTHING about donations for fundraising making any Scientologist “upstat”, and if Hubbard considered it important at all wouldn’t he have written policy on how to do it? After all, he endorsed “Big League Sales” as part of registrar tech. The guy had HCOPLs on how CLOTHES should be washed; on how CARS should be washed – would he not have thought to furnish policy on fundraising for the IAS and for Ideal Orgs if fundraising was so important to planetary clearing? If these fundraisings were so vital to get done asap would not the lack of LRH policy for all of us to read on these activities be a severe outpoint on Hubbard’s part? The reference about Hidden Data Lines.

All of the above did I point out to them, with good “TRs” (God knows how I managed all this without exploding but somehow I did).

And the result? Nope. Nothing, Nada. No impact on any of them.

I had MUs; I had overts, witholds and (it was suggested in the end) possibly evil purposes – was I reading the internet? How did I think of all of these things by myself?

Answer: I used to read the Green Vols, just because I liked reading policy, and I had done the Vol O course, and I had done the Data Series course so I could easily spot outpoints and pluspoints. What I HADN’T ( as yet) done was read about Scientology on the internet! Doing so simply didn’t occur to me at the time! That’s how trusting I was. Whatever the cult said, I believed. Whatever was in HCOPLs and HCOBs were all I had to know and understand.

But that question of theirs piqued my curiousity! Big mistake on their part. My questions to them at the time were my own observations, and I answered their question honestly, no, not reading the internet, and that was true and I said it on a meter.

However, if they had asked me that same question again soon after, the honest answer would have been YES! YES, Marty Rathbun’s blog!

And the rest is history and here I am 🙂

Yes!

Yes! I had forgotten about that Brontosaurus sized elephant in the room.

Exactly. They can’t see it, all the more sad for them. But we can create a new life for ourselves outside the cult and flourish and prosper.

Good for you. Amazing how they told you it was MU’s. LIf IL had known then the reference called “solve it with auditing” and don’t do bake sales and other fundraising, I would have quoted that. Bu reading what you just said, I suspect they would have told you that you had MU’s on that too. Brainwashed is an understatement. Thank God and YOU that you got out!

Yes, its true what you say, thank you, Cindy. Looking at things from his viewpoint (ugh) he has no choice other than to as you say move the goal posts and yank the footballl out of the way. And I join you in the mindset of it being beyond comprehension as to how the sheeple don’t figure this out. Its been 12 years now that I’m out. I will never understand!
But that’s ok. There are many blessings to count, not the least of which is not being still in.

Quite right! Hey, I fed him for a while too. Couldn’t help it. Having something of a temper, I was susceptible 🙂