Nibs was off his rocker. Old man Hubbard was no saint and no angel, but don’t trust the nonsense Ron Jr. says. He’s as much of a liar as his dad was.

I thought they introduced similar processes only after Snow White. But no, Mike in this podcast explains that they already had this sort of “no documentation left” process back in the 70s GO.

Which… makes me think they have not really improved that much and that a possible modern day FBI raid could bring the same fallout as Snow White did.

Thanks. You do it soooo well.

This comment was to be in reply to mad lib comment, not a stand alone off hand offering, it was germane to interview styles and our shared history.

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Again, my first post on this whole podcast and blog post stands:

Magnum opus

At the end of the first podcast in this series Mike and Leah agreed that they “must get better at this”. I can hear Leah’s enthusiasm but please take note of what the listeners say.

Andy.

Don’t ever worry about giving someone constructive criticism. There is a difference in constructive criticism and being a jerk. You see a lot of the ‘jerks’ on the net and on some of these forums. There are many of what I call Fanboys/Fangirls of certain people and if one says anything criticizing one of those people they go off the deep end. Ignore them. Mike and especially Leah can handle a little constructive criticism. Mike has took shite from the king of asshats so don’t worry about him. Have you ever read the texts that Miscavige sent to Mike continually during the BBC fiasco (right before Mike escaped)? He’s published them somewhere here on the blog. That’s verbal abuse and being a jerk.

It’s hard to deprogram a lifetime of the ‘Tech’. When you have spoken basically a different language than everyone else since you were a child it’s hard to unlearn it. Even for people who were in for a few years it’s hard to unlearn. There have been a few people talking about what Leah is doing which is something called ‘acknowledging’ or ‘acks’. It’s where when someone makes a statement you ‘acknowledge’ them. Every single time. It’s part of the TR’s which is the very first thing you learn in Sci Inc. It is disguised as a ‘communication course’ but it’s really the first steps of indoctrination. If you haven’t read the TR info go here https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/TR/critique.html he has a real good two page explanation of the TR’s and what they do to the person involved.

I don’t think you need to worry about anyone telling you that you can’t post here. Several people here post and do not care what others think myself included. We can’t all think the same way then we would be back in Sci Inc.
There are some other sites where it seems like people want to argue with you no matter what…even when you are agreeing with them. I have just learned to ignore them. I rarely reply to anyone unless I have something productive to say. Replying to defend yourself or argue just wastes time and energy and in the end means jack squat. Mike is the only person who can ban anyone and he’s only ever reserved that for some very grievous offenses (re Foolproof). I for one am glad to have your input around, the more people that have creative and productive discussions can help spread the word about the abuses of Sci Inc.

It started with New Jersey granting the Church of American Science (late ’53) a nonprofit incorporation. There were also two other incorporations at or around the same time. They were run by the H.A.S., and it was apparently intended to be an American religion to use the ministerial angle to get around the laws against auditing. Those days it was associated with the medical profession of psychiatry, and landed at least one early member of Pasadena into jail. They tried handing out two different types of credentials as well to get around the law, pronouncing auditors as Doctors of Divinity or for an additional (relatively high) fee, a certificate as a Psychoanalyst. Dianetics and Scientology getting around the law runs deep in their roots.

I am becoming an ‘expert’ of sorts about the history of Dianetics and Scientology, as I am taking a page from Sun Tzu’s Art of War.