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		By: Espiritu		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54586</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Espiritu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Children’s Org? Really? Just a spur of the moment money-raising gimmick has now turned into “the only org in the Americas with special facilities to cater to the child Scientologists to guarantee their ascent up the Bridge” 

What&#039;s worse is the creation of &quot;child benefactors&quot;.  What kind of a confused message on the subject of exchange does this teach a child? 
Did the child earn this money that they are &quot;donating&quot;? Unlikely, unless they inherited a lot of wealth at birth or are a child Hollywood star. 
If it is coming from Mommy and Daddy, did they actually give the child the money with no strings attached first and then the child decided on their own to give it all to the COS. Again, unlikely. 
So let&#039;s take a look at what message is being communicated here.....   
That you can own stuff that you do not earn.  And.....
That you will gain a lot of admiration if you give away stuff that you do not own.
I must of missed those precepts in I The Way to Happiness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Children’s Org? Really? Just a spur of the moment money-raising gimmick has now turned into “the only org in the Americas with special facilities to cater to the child Scientologists to guarantee their ascent up the Bridge” </p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse is the creation of &#8220;child benefactors&#8221;.  What kind of a confused message on the subject of exchange does this teach a child?<br />
Did the child earn this money that they are &#8220;donating&#8221;? Unlikely, unless they inherited a lot of wealth at birth or are a child Hollywood star.<br />
If it is coming from Mommy and Daddy, did they actually give the child the money with no strings attached first and then the child decided on their own to give it all to the COS. Again, unlikely.<br />
So let&#8217;s take a look at what message is being communicated here&#8230;..<br />
That you can own stuff that you do not earn.  And&#8230;..<br />
That you will gain a lot of admiration if you give away stuff that you do not own.<br />
I must of missed those precepts in I The Way to Happiness.</p>
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		By: Doug Parent		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54567</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54421&quot;&gt;zana&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice. Lets get this straight. This is a CHURCH that justifies this truly disgusting behavior towards their own parishnors while aboard sea vessel that HOLDS THIER PASSPORT at their discretion.  (probably illegal) The evidence is overwhelming and the only rational conclusion one can make is that these guys are criminals, and immoral ones at that. The Freewinds is that last place anyone would want to get trapped in a Scientology organization, because they think they OWN you. Chick Corea, wake up and confront what you have been supporting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54421">zana</a>.</p>
<p>Nice. Lets get this straight. This is a CHURCH that justifies this truly disgusting behavior towards their own parishnors while aboard sea vessel that HOLDS THIER PASSPORT at their discretion.  (probably illegal) The evidence is overwhelming and the only rational conclusion one can make is that these guys are criminals, and immoral ones at that. The Freewinds is that last place anyone would want to get trapped in a Scientology organization, because they think they OWN you. Chick Corea, wake up and confront what you have been supporting.</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54556</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54548&quot;&gt;hiatus57&lt;/a&gt;.

Dave, may your salmon turn to salmonella.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54548">hiatus57</a>.</p>
<p>Dave, may your salmon turn to salmonella.</p>
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		By: hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 21:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Taking money from children

What a bunch of BASTARDS.

Still its not my money so I really don&#039;t give a flying pig.

If these narcassistic scychophants are happy to hand over all these $$$$$$&#039;s for a silly pin or badge just to keep the rat faced dwarf Miscaviage in smoked salmon and whisky who are we to complain hum??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking money from children</p>
<p>What a bunch of BASTARDS.</p>
<p>Still its not my money so I really don&#8217;t give a flying pig.</p>
<p>If these narcassistic scychophants are happy to hand over all these $$$$$$&#8217;s for a silly pin or badge just to keep the rat faced dwarf Miscaviage in smoked salmon and whisky who are we to complain hum??</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54501&quot;&gt;John P. Capitalist&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you can get ideal kitchens and bathrooms at Home Depot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54501">John P. Capitalist</a>.</p>
<p>I think you can get ideal kitchens and bathrooms at Home Depot.</p>
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		By: John P. Capitalist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 14:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They have campaigns for an ideal planet, continent, region, and now city.  What&#039;s next?  Ideal Zip Code and Ideal Census Tract??  I can hardly wait.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have campaigns for an ideal planet, continent, region, and now city.  What&#8217;s next?  Ideal Zip Code and Ideal Census Tract??  I can hardly wait.</p>
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		By: Salute		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salute]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I bought my IAS membership first in 1995 .. have never paid one cent more ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought my IAS membership first in 1995 .. have never paid one cent more ..</p>
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		By: DollarMorgue		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54495</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 13:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54464&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

It sounds completely insane. I think we&#039;re really soft over here in Europe by comparison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54464">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>It sounds completely insane. I think we&#8217;re really soft over here in Europe by comparison.</p>
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		By: Joe Pendleton		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54493</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Pendleton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 10:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Prediction: YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.  Miscavige understands group games over time and how to transition from one  to another.  So...

There is probably a &quot;drop dead date&quot; for the Valley Org already figured out.  As much money as possible will be squeezed from the sheeple and when it is clear not much more is coming, the IAS will generously swoop in and make the final donation.  They will not only get their own brownie points to continue to promote, but also &quot;a big win&quot; will be promoted/celebrated on completing Valley.  Then ....... ha ha ha ..... you guessed it, the next game begins.  (Renos for Valley or the new Hotel or Auditorium in Pac or something).  And THIS cycle will then run its course.  Grind grind grind ... take the win .... the sheeple can feel they &quot;did it&quot;, then get them to do it all over again.  Yeah, Dave IS in fact a genius in his chosen field.  No denying it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prediction: YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.  Miscavige understands group games over time and how to transition from one  to another.  So&#8230;</p>
<p>There is probably a &#8220;drop dead date&#8221; for the Valley Org already figured out.  As much money as possible will be squeezed from the sheeple and when it is clear not much more is coming, the IAS will generously swoop in and make the final donation.  They will not only get their own brownie points to continue to promote, but also &#8220;a big win&#8221; will be promoted/celebrated on completing Valley.  Then &#8230;&#8230;. ha ha ha &#8230;.. you guessed it, the next game begins.  (Renos for Valley or the new Hotel or Auditorium in Pac or something).  And THIS cycle will then run its course.  Grind grind grind &#8230; take the win &#8230;. the sheeple can feel they &#8220;did it&#8221;, then get them to do it all over again.  Yeah, Dave IS in fact a genius in his chosen field.  No denying it.</p>
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		By: Joe Pendleton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2014 10:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54424&quot;&gt;zana&lt;/a&gt;.

Zana - there is not a person who goes to the Freewinds or goes to these events who doesn&#039;t know the drill.  They all know what is coming and they go.  There&#039;s your answer.  That is the spiritual and mental condition these people are in.  Once you make the decision to or even allow an external source to determine who or what you can feel affinity for, agree with or communicate to, you are lost as a being.  And so the sheeple are; and that is why they keep participating.  In the wog world, it would be said that they are mentally ill, and of course they are.  They are sick people.  But as folks who have studied the spirit and life in Scientology, they are responsible for their own condition. Have no more money?  Going bankrupt as you keep using credit?  Tough shit, my former friends.  Maybe you should acquire the skill of being able to handle any situation with communication alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-ideal-city/#comment-54424">zana</a>.</p>
<p>Zana &#8211; there is not a person who goes to the Freewinds or goes to these events who doesn&#8217;t know the drill.  They all know what is coming and they go.  There&#8217;s your answer.  That is the spiritual and mental condition these people are in.  Once you make the decision to or even allow an external source to determine who or what you can feel affinity for, agree with or communicate to, you are lost as a being.  And so the sheeple are; and that is why they keep participating.  In the wog world, it would be said that they are mentally ill, and of course they are.  They are sick people.  But as folks who have studied the spirit and life in Scientology, they are responsible for their own condition. Have no more money?  Going bankrupt as you keep using credit?  Tough shit, my former friends.  Maybe you should acquire the skill of being able to handle any situation with communication alone.</p>
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