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		By: theosismanides		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24287</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24165&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck, you are objective in your observations, I do read them carefully when you post. However, I have an objection to your last sentence here. We are not talking just about human buzz here! I don&#039;t know if you had wins from Scientology, I think you did. Even on the data series and the way you approach things in an analytical way, I suspect Scientology and Hubbard&#039;s writings helped you a bit. 

So we are not talking about just a religion here. Let&#039;s get that straight. I am referring to Scientology as such, not the church. I am talking about a technology (and you do know that better than many) of how to better understand life as well as the human mind and spirit. 

In that perspective I have undertaken the post of HAS in APIS (Association of Professional Independent Scientologists) founded by Michael Moore, an auditors mainly association from all around the world. Admin is important and is what is lacking in the Independent and Freezone field. 

If you care to help me put together a good big expanded Org Board let me know. Hahaha, I know you are good at that. It would help many people. And remember, to me we are talking about a technology here, not a religion. We don&#039;t need a religion right now, we need an Org Board to get people to come in and give a helping hand. That&#039;s all the Indie field needs. So let me know buddy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24165">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>Chuck, you are objective in your observations, I do read them carefully when you post. However, I have an objection to your last sentence here. We are not talking just about human buzz here! I don&#8217;t know if you had wins from Scientology, I think you did. Even on the data series and the way you approach things in an analytical way, I suspect Scientology and Hubbard&#8217;s writings helped you a bit. </p>
<p>So we are not talking about just a religion here. Let&#8217;s get that straight. I am referring to Scientology as such, not the church. I am talking about a technology (and you do know that better than many) of how to better understand life as well as the human mind and spirit. </p>
<p>In that perspective I have undertaken the post of HAS in APIS (Association of Professional Independent Scientologists) founded by Michael Moore, an auditors mainly association from all around the world. Admin is important and is what is lacking in the Independent and Freezone field. </p>
<p>If you care to help me put together a good big expanded Org Board let me know. Hahaha, I know you are good at that. It would help many people. And remember, to me we are talking about a technology here, not a religion. We don&#8217;t need a religion right now, we need an Org Board to get people to come in and give a helping hand. That&#8217;s all the Indie field needs. So let me know buddy.</p>
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		By: Thoughtful		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24208</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2013 03:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the report Mike. As Martha Stout says in her book, &quot;The Sociopath Next Door&quot; an SP can be spotted by the &quot;Pity Play.&quot; They are apparently the only ones that do this routinely. They want people to pity them because then they can be manipulated. So apparently they just go out of their way to play the pity card... ergo, lights fade, spotlight on DM who looks up wistfully into the darkness, sadly noble, &quot;And in case you are wondering how long this one has been in the works—no, it wasn&#039;t a year. And no, it wasn&#039;t two years. Or even three.&quot; A hush comes over the crowd of clubbed seals who wouldn&#039;t know a sociopath if he took over their religion and stole every penny they had... faint trumpet fanfare in the background... &quot;I&#039;ve been working on this one for 20 years.&quot; DM looks with predatory eyes into the audience to see if they are taking the bait. Faint fanfare from &quot;The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.&quot; Fade to black. 

I remember up in his office in RTC when he did a whole (sadly noble) song and dance about how someone had intentionally ran over and killed his dog (a utter lie). And he picked up an urn and said it was his dog&#039;s ashes. He said, &quot;That&#039;s what I get at the Int base. This is how you treat me. I try to help, and the response is someone kills my dog.&quot; 

Stout says the pity play is a clear way to recognize the sociopath. Food for thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report Mike. As Martha Stout says in her book, &#8220;The Sociopath Next Door&#8221; an SP can be spotted by the &#8220;Pity Play.&#8221; They are apparently the only ones that do this routinely. They want people to pity them because then they can be manipulated. So apparently they just go out of their way to play the pity card&#8230; ergo, lights fade, spotlight on DM who looks up wistfully into the darkness, sadly noble, &#8220;And in case you are wondering how long this one has been in the works—no, it wasn&#8217;t a year. And no, it wasn&#8217;t two years. Or even three.&#8221; A hush comes over the crowd of clubbed seals who wouldn&#8217;t know a sociopath if he took over their religion and stole every penny they had&#8230; faint trumpet fanfare in the background&#8230; &#8220;I&#8217;ve been working on this one for 20 years.&#8221; DM looks with predatory eyes into the audience to see if they are taking the bait. Faint fanfare from &#8220;The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.&#8221; Fade to black. </p>
<p>I remember up in his office in RTC when he did a whole (sadly noble) song and dance about how someone had intentionally ran over and killed his dog (a utter lie). And he picked up an urn and said it was his dog&#8217;s ashes. He said, &#8220;That&#8217;s what I get at the Int base. This is how you treat me. I try to help, and the response is someone kills my dog.&#8221; </p>
<p>Stout says the pity play is a clear way to recognize the sociopath. Food for thought.</p>
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		By: Sejanus		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24192</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2013 02:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When yer that short you must learn to be afraid of everyone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When yer that short you must learn to be afraid of everyone.</p>
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		By: Espiritu		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24178</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2013 00:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And more lost tech: In my researches in the LRH archives I actually came across a whole new LRH book which has not seen the light of day for decades. .....I am very sure that you do not remember this book because I have just told you that you do not remember it.....This is a very important work which was hidden away cleverly by SPs to prevent this vital tech from being released. LRH actually typed this book himself on his personal typewriter at 100 words per minute. We have now restored the original and, after removing all of LRH&#039;s typos, are proud to announce the release of:      DIANETICS, THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH! &quot;           -DM
(This is only a joke......honest.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And more lost tech: In my researches in the LRH archives I actually came across a whole new LRH book which has not seen the light of day for decades. &#8230;..I am very sure that you do not remember this book because I have just told you that you do not remember it&#8230;..This is a very important work which was hidden away cleverly by SPs to prevent this vital tech from being released. LRH actually typed this book himself on his personal typewriter at 100 words per minute. We have now restored the original and, after removing all of LRH&#8217;s typos, are proud to announce the release of:      DIANETICS, THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH! &#8221;           -DM<br />
(This is only a joke&#8230;&#8230;honest.)</p>
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		By: Breppen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24173</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder how squirreled those reissued BTB&#039;s will be to satisfy Miscavige&#039;s sadistic needs. Will David Mayo&#039;s BTB&#039;s be reissued under Miscavige&#039;s name instead?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how squirreled those reissued BTB&#8217;s will be to satisfy Miscavige&#8217;s sadistic needs. Will David Mayo&#8217;s BTB&#8217;s be reissued under Miscavige&#8217;s name instead?</p>
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		By: Breppen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breppen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24069&quot;&gt;Pat Shannon&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL, what Pat Shannon said!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24069">Pat Shannon</a>.</p>
<p>LOL, what Pat Shannon said!</p>
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		By: Breppen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 23:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24094&quot;&gt;Sophia13&lt;/a&gt;.

Remember that casting call 1 month ago by Scn for actors/actresses for Gold film production, me wonders if some attended this event?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24094">Sophia13</a>.</p>
<p>Remember that casting call 1 month ago by Scn for actors/actresses for Gold film production, me wonders if some attended this event?</p>
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		By: Breppen		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breppen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24010&quot;&gt;Copper Rods&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL LOL LOL]]></description>
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<p>LOL LOL LOL</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24165</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Beatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-23997&quot;&gt;threefeetback&lt;/a&gt;.

DM hasn&#039;t studied the subject, he was like 12 or 14 when he did the Briefing Course, not even literate, so how could he even grasp the BC which he never interned either, so even any certs he had are not valid, because he&#039;s never interned.

He violated so many of Hubbard&#039;s personnel policies, I&#039;m no Hubbard fan believe me, but Miscavige had he at least followed Hubbard&#039;s somewhat expansionist personnel policies would have at least had a trained team of seal clubbers, and he&#039;d at least be letting some of the WDC Members and Exec Strata members, or the bosses, like ED Int and WDC Chairman, have a little event briefing facetime.

Total internal long term short ranged bad management, by a dictatorial unrealized and not even Hubbard trained leader, Miscavige that is.

I&#039;m not saying even Hubbard would be able to deal with humanity&#039;s objections to Hubbard and Scientology though.

This movement survives on the blugeoning of the loyal seals, to stay with the metaphor here.

All that we see is the game playing to keep the seals happy enough not to run off to the similarly low volume activity of the freezone and independent Scientology movement.

Religion and fake religions, just aren&#039;t the human buzz currently!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-23997">threefeetback</a>.</p>
<p>DM hasn&#8217;t studied the subject, he was like 12 or 14 when he did the Briefing Course, not even literate, so how could he even grasp the BC which he never interned either, so even any certs he had are not valid, because he&#8217;s never interned.</p>
<p>He violated so many of Hubbard&#8217;s personnel policies, I&#8217;m no Hubbard fan believe me, but Miscavige had he at least followed Hubbard&#8217;s somewhat expansionist personnel policies would have at least had a trained team of seal clubbers, and he&#8217;d at least be letting some of the WDC Members and Exec Strata members, or the bosses, like ED Int and WDC Chairman, have a little event briefing facetime.</p>
<p>Total internal long term short ranged bad management, by a dictatorial unrealized and not even Hubbard trained leader, Miscavige that is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying even Hubbard would be able to deal with humanity&#8217;s objections to Hubbard and Scientology though.</p>
<p>This movement survives on the blugeoning of the loyal seals, to stay with the metaphor here.</p>
<p>All that we see is the game playing to keep the seals happy enough not to run off to the similarly low volume activity of the freezone and independent Scientology movement.</p>
<p>Religion and fake religions, just aren&#8217;t the human buzz currently!</p>
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		By: Moonshot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moonshot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24069&quot;&gt;Pat Shannon&lt;/a&gt;.

New tech Definition of a Ser Fac: Any real or percieved disagreement with Dear Leader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/first-report-from-tonights-seal-clubbing/#comment-24069">Pat Shannon</a>.</p>
<p>New tech Definition of a Ser Fac: Any real or percieved disagreement with Dear Leader.</p>
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