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		By: Kiama		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82675</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And now I want somebody to change the Music cue when David Miscavage goes to stage be Imperial March]]></description>
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		By: Lawrence		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82601</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2015 04:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82449&quot;&gt;Michael Mallen&lt;/a&gt;.

Here is what public people say about the Church of Scientology after seeing the recent biography of the Church of Scientology aired on HBO:

Carl Reiiner says:
&quot;Saw excellent, disturbing documentary on Scientology and empathized with all the poor souls whose lives were shattered by this organization&quot;.

My point is, that anything COB might say pales in comparison to raw public getting a full fledged hatting on Scientology right from their own TV&#039;s in their own living rooms WITHOUT having to sit through SERVICES in an &quot;Org&quot;. Can it really make sense to the people in that church that if COB says &quot;Don&#039;t watch TV&quot; that they need to listen?

The technology the Church of Scientology denied other people is the exact thing that is going to do them in. I have to laugh when I envision someone receiving a COMMAND INTENTION Public Order &quot;All church members are to DISCONNECT from HBO, from Comcast, from Time Warner until the truth is known&quot;. That HBO broadcast IS the truth. So to any member of the Church of Scientology my advice to you &quot;Don&#039;t hold your breath waiting!&quot; :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82449">Michael Mallen</a>.</p>
<p>Here is what public people say about the Church of Scientology after seeing the recent biography of the Church of Scientology aired on HBO:</p>
<p>Carl Reiiner says:<br />
&#8220;Saw excellent, disturbing documentary on Scientology and empathized with all the poor souls whose lives were shattered by this organization&#8221;.</p>
<p>My point is, that anything COB might say pales in comparison to raw public getting a full fledged hatting on Scientology right from their own TV&#8217;s in their own living rooms WITHOUT having to sit through SERVICES in an &#8220;Org&#8221;. Can it really make sense to the people in that church that if COB says &#8220;Don&#8217;t watch TV&#8221; that they need to listen?</p>
<p>The technology the Church of Scientology denied other people is the exact thing that is going to do them in. I have to laugh when I envision someone receiving a COMMAND INTENTION Public Order &#8220;All church members are to DISCONNECT from HBO, from Comcast, from Time Warner until the truth is known&#8221;. That HBO broadcast IS the truth. So to any member of the Church of Scientology my advice to you &#8220;Don&#8217;t hold your breath waiting!&#8221; 🙂</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2015 01:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82487&quot;&gt;Gerhard Waterkamp&lt;/a&gt;.

I remember his name, I wasn&#039;t Gold staff, I was only a visitor at Int/Gold most of the time I was in and out.   I remember his name though, and likely saw him in passing only.   I somehow recall light brown hair, and a mustache, sort of tall and lanky, hair combed so it fell over his forehead slightly, correct?   I think he must have left by 1990 or early 1990s though, blown or routed out, or is he still there?   Ask Jeff Hawkins or Marc Headley or Amy Scobee, they&#039;d know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82487">Gerhard Waterkamp</a>.</p>
<p>I remember his name, I wasn&#8217;t Gold staff, I was only a visitor at Int/Gold most of the time I was in and out.   I remember his name though, and likely saw him in passing only.   I somehow recall light brown hair, and a mustache, sort of tall and lanky, hair combed so it fell over his forehead slightly, correct?   I think he must have left by 1990 or early 1990s though, blown or routed out, or is he still there?   Ask Jeff Hawkins or Marc Headley or Amy Scobee, they&#8217;d know.</p>
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		By: Shelley		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2015 00:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, been a bit &quot;out of it&quot; so this comment is very late on the chain. I couldn&#039;t believe my eyes when I read the name Pier Till - she is an old OLD South African - she must be geriatric by now, surely? She was old when I was a young teenager kicking around the org in the 80&#039;s........... If this is their &quot;cream&quot; tech staff after all these years, that&#039;s just sad. And very telling that no &quot;newbies&quot; are on the block...... they leave before they can get anywhere. Edy Lundeen - another ex-pat South African. And bat-shit crazy. Flag is welcome to her. They deserve each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, been a bit &#8220;out of it&#8221; so this comment is very late on the chain. I couldn&#8217;t believe my eyes when I read the name Pier Till &#8211; she is an old OLD South African &#8211; she must be geriatric by now, surely? She was old when I was a young teenager kicking around the org in the 80&#8217;s&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. If this is their &#8220;cream&#8221; tech staff after all these years, that&#8217;s just sad. And very telling that no &#8220;newbies&#8221; are on the block&#8230;&#8230; they leave before they can get anywhere. Edy Lundeen &#8211; another ex-pat South African. And bat-shit crazy. Flag is welcome to her. They deserve each other.</p>
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		By: Glee		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82526</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That the church is an horrible bureaucratic mess with this &quot;white collar&quot; little man is an real horrible situation. Miscavige is really nothing more than a fascist little businessman pretending to be an ecclesiatic leader.
But, the film, is showing Hubbard like a kind of sick paranoid. He maybe was at some point. But the way it throw in the dirt the whole subject of scientology, I don&#039;t like.
They would call tone 40 a kind of abuse. Come one!  For me there is scientology and there is Miscavige. This little bureaucrate should really be thrown in the street and spit in the face. He is the incarnation of horror and lies, he destroyed scientology. But please don&#039;t mix this blue eyes, well combed, little fascist with scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That the church is an horrible bureaucratic mess with this &#8220;white collar&#8221; little man is an real horrible situation. Miscavige is really nothing more than a fascist little businessman pretending to be an ecclesiatic leader.<br />
But, the film, is showing Hubbard like a kind of sick paranoid. He maybe was at some point. But the way it throw in the dirt the whole subject of scientology, I don&#8217;t like.<br />
They would call tone 40 a kind of abuse. Come one!  For me there is scientology and there is Miscavige. This little bureaucrate should really be thrown in the street and spit in the face. He is the incarnation of horror and lies, he destroyed scientology. But please don&#8217;t mix this blue eyes, well combed, little fascist with scientology.</p>
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		By: Espiando		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82513</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82498&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

It reads on you because the meter is full of shit as well.  It&#039;s a primitive lie detector at best, just a Wheatstone bridge with a few adjustment dials.  Plenty of actual engineers have taken one apart and/or looked at the schematics.  In order for OT3 to have any validity as &quot;something&quot;, the e-meter has to be detecting &quot;something&quot;.  And the e-meter doesn&#039;t detect anything of significance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82498">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>It reads on you because the meter is full of shit as well.  It&#8217;s a primitive lie detector at best, just a Wheatstone bridge with a few adjustment dials.  Plenty of actual engineers have taken one apart and/or looked at the schematics.  In order for OT3 to have any validity as &#8220;something&#8221;, the e-meter has to be detecting &#8220;something&#8221;.  And the e-meter doesn&#8217;t detect anything of significance.</p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82512</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82451&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

The Hamster-Wheel to Total Freedom needs oiling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82451">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>The Hamster-Wheel to Total Freedom needs oiling.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82509</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82498&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m amazed I haven&#039;t been challenged or &quot;corrected&quot; on this. 
Ever since I first heard someone (way back in 80s) say reading the OT3 materials without being ready for it will give you pneumonia and all sorts of bad things will beset you - all I could think at the time was, &quot;where&#039;s your MU man? That&#039;s bullshit!&quot; I still think that - it&#039;s written quite plainly on the page - &quot;to attempt to solve it.&quot; Hubbard already did and that&#039;s what you&#039;re reading - the solution!
A sort of analogy is we read about the situation of ISIS in Syria - that&#039;s a problem, a big one, but in reading that no one comes busting through your door and machine guns you. But &quot;attempt to solve it&quot; and there&#039;s a very good chance you will be machined gunned.
As I said I&#039;m not vouching for the tech here but a lot, and I mean a lot of people have dubbed in something which simply isn&#039;t there and it&#039;s gone viral!
You are certainly entitled to think/know it&#039;s all bullshit - but telling one lie to counter another is just as crazy. Even I think the OT3 story is a bit far fetched but geezers it reads pretty consistently on a meter and that&#039;s not just on me - why is that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82498">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed I haven&#8217;t been challenged or &#8220;corrected&#8221; on this.<br />
Ever since I first heard someone (way back in 80s) say reading the OT3 materials without being ready for it will give you pneumonia and all sorts of bad things will beset you &#8211; all I could think at the time was, &#8220;where&#8217;s your MU man? That&#8217;s bullshit!&#8221; I still think that &#8211; it&#8217;s written quite plainly on the page &#8211; &#8220;to attempt to solve it.&#8221; Hubbard already did and that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re reading &#8211; the solution!<br />
A sort of analogy is we read about the situation of ISIS in Syria &#8211; that&#8217;s a problem, a big one, but in reading that no one comes busting through your door and machine guns you. But &#8220;attempt to solve it&#8221; and there&#8217;s a very good chance you will be machined gunned.<br />
As I said I&#8217;m not vouching for the tech here but a lot, and I mean a lot of people have dubbed in something which simply isn&#8217;t there and it&#8217;s gone viral!<br />
You are certainly entitled to think/know it&#8217;s all bullshit &#8211; but telling one lie to counter another is just as crazy. Even I think the OT3 story is a bit far fetched but geezers it reads pretty consistently on a meter and that&#8217;s not just on me &#8211; why is that?</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 02:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82452&quot;&gt;From83&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, I love this, from83. The Cult&#039;s answer to MASH - Mobile Ethics On Wheels. (MEOW).  Ethics has to make house calls now because tech can&#039;t go in until ethics go in, and &quot;with no intention to overstate it but YES this IS the answer to Planetary Clearing for all beings this lifetime!&quot;  (Huge applause with10 minute non-stop standing O for Captain Miscavige).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82452">From83</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, I love this, from83. The Cult&#8217;s answer to MASH &#8211; Mobile Ethics On Wheels. (MEOW).  Ethics has to make house calls now because tech can&#8217;t go in until ethics go in, and &#8220;with no intention to overstate it but YES this IS the answer to Planetary Clearing for all beings this lifetime!&#8221;  (Huge applause with10 minute non-stop standing O for Captain Miscavige).</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82448&quot;&gt;Laura Ann&lt;/a&gt;.

Qualifications for Flag would be a living, breathing, ambulatory mass of human protoplasm with enough money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/flag-is-desperate/#comment-82448">Laura Ann</a>.</p>
<p>Qualifications for Flag would be a living, breathing, ambulatory mass of human protoplasm with enough money.</p>
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