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		By: Richard Lloyd-Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Lloyd-Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 04:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73834&quot;&gt;RolandRB&lt;/a&gt;.

I was in the British Merchant Navy in 1979 until 1985 and it was standard practice then even for the crew. As Mike stated its for the port authorities. Nothing to do with Scientology or their ship.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73834">RolandRB</a>.</p>
<p>I was in the British Merchant Navy in 1979 until 1985 and it was standard practice then even for the crew. As Mike stated its for the port authorities. Nothing to do with Scientology or their ship.</p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 02:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Currently it&#039;s parked in Curaçao. I wonder if they picked that location to unload the crew because there are no web cameras watching it 24/7 like in Aruba?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently it&#8217;s parked in Curaçao. I wonder if they picked that location to unload the crew because there are no web cameras watching it 24/7 like in Aruba?</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73875&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Great to hear your wins, Hallie Jane!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73875">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Great to hear your wins, Hallie Jane!</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73832&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

When I went to the Ship they demanded my passport and I was surprised cuz no one warned me of this.  I said no.  They insisted.  I said no again.  They insisted and let me know that if I didn&#039;t turn over my passport I wouldn&#039;t be boarding the ship.  So I did it but scratched my head as to why are they doing this?  Now I know why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73832">McCarran</a>.</p>
<p>When I went to the Ship they demanded my passport and I was surprised cuz no one warned me of this.  I said no.  They insisted.  I said no again.  They insisted and let me know that if I didn&#8217;t turn over my passport I wouldn&#8217;t be boarding the ship.  So I did it but scratched my head as to why are they doing this?  Now I know why.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 23:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73875&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Hallie Jane, for sharing bravely your truths about the efficacy of LRH&#039;s auditing tech, about your wins and about the wins experienced by your PCs. Beautiful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73875">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Hallie Jane, for sharing bravely your truths about the efficacy of LRH&#8217;s auditing tech, about your wins and about the wins experienced by your PCs. Beautiful.</p>
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		By: BFM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BFM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73805&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

HCOPL &quot;What is a check sheet?&quot; and HCOPL &quot;senior policy&quot; and well, I don&#039;t want to wreck my brains over it.... violations galore!

On the Fleece Winds my TIP strangely only ended when I could convince the Registrar that I had no more personal resources and had called everyone I knew to beg for cash to no avail, and that nobody could be found to engage in some financial irregularities.

Never again! So I followed the English definition of the RUN tip and never returned. The fuckers did manage to reg me for another OT hatting course at my local Org (Ext. &#038; the phenomena of  space)... so they owe me that money still. But I am SO done with them they can shove that up their greedy asses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73805">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>HCOPL &#8220;What is a check sheet?&#8221; and HCOPL &#8220;senior policy&#8221; and well, I don&#8217;t want to wreck my brains over it&#8230;. violations galore!</p>
<p>On the Fleece Winds my TIP strangely only ended when I could convince the Registrar that I had no more personal resources and had called everyone I knew to beg for cash to no avail, and that nobody could be found to engage in some financial irregularities.</p>
<p>Never again! So I followed the English definition of the RUN tip and never returned. The fuckers did manage to reg me for another OT hatting course at my local Org (Ext. &amp; the phenomena of  space)&#8230; so they owe me that money still. But I am SO done with them they can shove that up their greedy asses.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 19:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can speak to a personal and positive experience re: LRH.  I got into Scn in 1974, joined staff 3 days later and was an auditor before I finished life repair.  I learned everything I know about Scn. from behind an emeter.  I was very skeptical that the processes would work as LRH described but I worked hard at auditing, studying, auditing, studying, auditing, studying.  Every person I audited had personal wins that they stated to me, because of my actions.  When I corrected my actions to be more precise to the technical bulletins, wins and gains became greater uniformly.  As I saw what LRH predicted would happen, happened over and over again, I started to trust him more and to expect his stated outcomes to occur.  After a few thousand hours of this, my respect and admiration for LRH was very high.  I had handled lifelong problems for people, helped physical recoveries, saved marriages, literally created sanity for some and created new stability for others.  After a few thousand more hours, because I applied the technical bulletins precisely, my results improved and improved, to the point where I was a seasoned case cracker, where even those who had struggled were having impressive wins of their origination.  In my thorough study I found LRH&#039;s attitude to be very caring, with 100% intention for that spiritual being, to be free of charge or case.  I remember auditing a severely ill person and in scouring the assist bulletins, I felt so impressed with his thoroughness of handling and his caring.   My respect and admiration is extremely high for LRH, even though I&#039;ve heard a lot of negative things about him since, it just doesn&#039;t change what occurred before.  I guess it&#039;s like a son that adores his dad, that he grew up learning everything from, to later learn that he&#039;s a drinking, gambling womanizer.  But the love is still there, it doesn&#039;t kill the respect.  IMHO the technical area has been trashed since LRH&#039;s death by the lowly cob squirrel.  I saw scientific rigor in LRH&#039;s work and I do think that it can be assessed.  The data is in the folders.  If someone ever collects them all and compiles some kind of data pool, I believe the efficacy can be proven and perhaps improved.  I think it&#039;s important for each one of us to assess for ourselves, what percentage of our Scn experience was positive or negative, and be real and honest about both sides.  Confronting the lies and evil is important, but so is not allowing the positives to be stolen by assholes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can speak to a personal and positive experience re: LRH.  I got into Scn in 1974, joined staff 3 days later and was an auditor before I finished life repair.  I learned everything I know about Scn. from behind an emeter.  I was very skeptical that the processes would work as LRH described but I worked hard at auditing, studying, auditing, studying, auditing, studying.  Every person I audited had personal wins that they stated to me, because of my actions.  When I corrected my actions to be more precise to the technical bulletins, wins and gains became greater uniformly.  As I saw what LRH predicted would happen, happened over and over again, I started to trust him more and to expect his stated outcomes to occur.  After a few thousand hours of this, my respect and admiration for LRH was very high.  I had handled lifelong problems for people, helped physical recoveries, saved marriages, literally created sanity for some and created new stability for others.  After a few thousand more hours, because I applied the technical bulletins precisely, my results improved and improved, to the point where I was a seasoned case cracker, where even those who had struggled were having impressive wins of their origination.  In my thorough study I found LRH&#8217;s attitude to be very caring, with 100% intention for that spiritual being, to be free of charge or case.  I remember auditing a severely ill person and in scouring the assist bulletins, I felt so impressed with his thoroughness of handling and his caring.   My respect and admiration is extremely high for LRH, even though I&#8217;ve heard a lot of negative things about him since, it just doesn&#8217;t change what occurred before.  I guess it&#8217;s like a son that adores his dad, that he grew up learning everything from, to later learn that he&#8217;s a drinking, gambling womanizer.  But the love is still there, it doesn&#8217;t kill the respect.  IMHO the technical area has been trashed since LRH&#8217;s death by the lowly cob squirrel.  I saw scientific rigor in LRH&#8217;s work and I do think that it can be assessed.  The data is in the folders.  If someone ever collects them all and compiles some kind of data pool, I believe the efficacy can be proven and perhaps improved.  I think it&#8217;s important for each one of us to assess for ourselves, what percentage of our Scn experience was positive or negative, and be real and honest about both sides.  Confronting the lies and evil is important, but so is not allowing the positives to be stolen by assholes.</p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73852&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;In a July 1 letter to Arizona members published by Plain Old Thetan, Scientologist Sharron Weber states that the Phoenix project is not about &quot;having a nice building&quot; or meeting fundraising goals: &quot;It&#039;s about giving the chance of freedom to the very people that you walk past, rub elbows with, and see every day.&quot;

Until these hoped-for new members start paying their dues, though, practicing Scientologists will hear calls for more Phoenix Ideal Org donations and volunteers. There&#039;ll be costs for the new building&#039;s renovation, maintenance, and staffing. Exactly how much the project needs is a moving target.

Another post published by Plain Old Thetan contains a screen shot of a June 29 flier from the Church of Scientology seeking donations. It contains numbers to call with California area codes and states that the Phoenix project needs $402,885. But with $318,265 in pledges, it continues, there&#039;s only &quot;$84,620 to go.&quot;

Weber&#039;s letter, which the blog writer states was e-mailed to a Scientologist on July 1, says $500,000 still is needed &quot;to get your Ideal Org building.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73852">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>In a July 1 letter to Arizona members published by Plain Old Thetan, Scientologist Sharron Weber states that the Phoenix project is not about &#8220;having a nice building&#8221; or meeting fundraising goals: &#8220;It&#8217;s about giving the chance of freedom to the very people that you walk past, rub elbows with, and see every day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until these hoped-for new members start paying their dues, though, practicing Scientologists will hear calls for more Phoenix Ideal Org donations and volunteers. There&#8217;ll be costs for the new building&#8217;s renovation, maintenance, and staffing. Exactly how much the project needs is a moving target.</p>
<p>Another post published by Plain Old Thetan contains a screen shot of a June 29 flier from the Church of Scientology seeking donations. It contains numbers to call with California area codes and states that the Phoenix project needs $402,885. But with $318,265 in pledges, it continues, there&#8217;s only &#8220;$84,620 to go.&#8221;</p>
<p>Weber&#8217;s letter, which the blog writer states was e-mailed to a Scientologist on July 1, says $500,000 still is needed &#8220;to get your Ideal Org building.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73847&quot;&gt;Rick Mycroft&lt;/a&gt;.

WHere is she mentioned in the article? It&#039;s too long for me to read right now...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73847">Rick Mycroft</a>.</p>
<p>WHere is she mentioned in the article? It&#8217;s too long for me to read right now&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/freewinds-the-top-of-the-bridge-is-the-bottom/#comment-73847&quot;&gt;Rick Mycroft&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, Ideal Org begging letter writing. I guess writing begging letters &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; her qualification for the job.]]></description>
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<p>Sorry, Ideal Org begging letter writing. I guess writing begging letters <b>is</b> her qualification for the job.</p>
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