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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 03:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177376&quot;&gt;Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Lois.  I owe you a bunch.  Your tales and experiences are hair raising.  &#060;3]]></description>
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<p>Thanks, Lois.  I owe you a bunch.  Your tales and experiences are hair raising.  &lt;3</p>
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		By: Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177369&quot;&gt;secretfornow&lt;/a&gt;.

What a great synopsis of being on staff and having to deal with the KR&#039;s. I found it very interest. Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177369">secretfornow</a>.</p>
<p>What a great synopsis of being on staff and having to deal with the KR&#8217;s. I found it very interest. Thanks!</p>
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		By: Luv2LuvEm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177277&quot;&gt;WhatAreYourCrimes&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve made this comment before but here it is again. I had read a lot about Hubbard years ago when I had researched Alistair Crowley &#038; then when Going Clear &#038; then Leah &#038; Mike&#039;s show, came out &#038; shed even more light about what was going on, everything I heard just made me livid. I got my whole family to watch both &#038; they feel the same way. Now my brother &#038; I are boycotting any movie or tv show that has a Scientologist in it. I know it&#039;s a very small thing, but I need to do SOMETHING. I wish there was more I could do being an outsider &#038; if there is, I hope someone can let me know. I am so proud of all the people on these blogs that have gone through hell and back (&#038; many who still are w/o their families) and are fighting back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177277">WhatAreYourCrimes</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made this comment before but here it is again. I had read a lot about Hubbard years ago when I had researched Alistair Crowley &amp; then when Going Clear &amp; then Leah &amp; Mike&#8217;s show, came out &amp; shed even more light about what was going on, everything I heard just made me livid. I got my whole family to watch both &amp; they feel the same way. Now my brother &amp; I are boycotting any movie or tv show that has a Scientologist in it. I know it&#8217;s a very small thing, but I need to do SOMETHING. I wish there was more I could do being an outsider &amp; if there is, I hope someone can let me know. I am so proud of all the people on these blogs that have gone through hell and back (&amp; many who still are w/o their families) and are fighting back.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 14:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177269&quot;&gt;Gus Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

this is my favorite new (to me) concept.  thank you.   I like this muchly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177269">Gus Cox</a>.</p>
<p>this is my favorite new (to me) concept.  thank you.   I like this muchly.</p>
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		By: secretfornow		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 14:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177258&quot;&gt;clearlypissedoff&lt;/a&gt;.

Yah, We didn&#039;t write up our buddies or close co-workers much.  As EO I saw a lot of pissy KRs based on someone&#039;s pique.  Those were often laced with evaluations on the person&#039;s tone level or intention.  (gak)  

Seniors gets pissed because the stats are down and you didn&#039;t make an insane target:  KR - he&#039;s protecting his arse.   (you&#039;re supposed to write a JE, fool!) (job endangerment chit)

I remember when the stand-alone KR policy was released.  Now KRs were not just an overlooked seldom used thing part of &quot;Staff Member Reports&quot;.  It was a big deal.  We all had to M4 starrate it, and there a staff meeting with much discussion and agreement on how valuable the policy was.  THIS was a way we could take responsibility for our group and area and ensure it was all 100 percent on policy and in tech.  Ethics, Tech and Admin, right?  This was the way to win.  Had to have ethics in or tech would never go in.  

(I never want to have alzheimer&#039;s but if it happens, at least I will be hopefully blessed with forgetting all this shit)

After that policy was released and agreed to, KRs really became a thing. 

My ethics folders exploded with KRs after every &quot;justice&quot; action.  I got creamed a bunch of times - (stats up? no ethics protection for YOU, we&#039;re flowing power to the execs!)

One of the most difficult things to swallow and deal with as a staff member was the interrog.  A couple times I was illegally ordered to abandon my post to assume a different one (musical chairs) or some such thing, I would protest, write reports, refuse, etc. and then the interrog would come out.  

For those who haven&#039;t had this blessing... it&#039;s a nice survey sheet that is given to every single staff member and they MUST fill it out and give it to Ethics.  It&#039;s a long list of questions such as:  &quot;do you know of any out ethics activities X is involved in?&quot;  &quot;has X ever given you false data, out tech verbal tech?  &quot;do you know of any ethics violations X has been guilty of?&quot;  &quot;Has X spread any entheta to you?&quot;  &quot;has X given you any enemy lines?&quot;

The responses were telling.  Old beefs would be reported, little bitchy complaints, vague disagreements, and the 3 times you were late in the last 3 years or didn&#039;t report stats on time or whatever.  (or the time you broke and told your senior to FUCK OFF)  

People I would have thought to have my back DIDN&#039;T.   They filled out their interrog with any little thing.  One part cover your ass, one part suck-up to the powers that be, one part hidden bitches, one part truly thinking that they were doing the right thing, and one or two asshats you&#039;d rejected as a 2D, getting their revenge.

Who had my back and who didn&#039;t was always telling.  I have not forgotten.  (I&#039;m lookin at YOU TK) 

As EO, I would sometimes ponder the &quot;Fat Ethics File&quot; thing.  Hubbster&#039;s policies on finding SPs:  &quot;look for the fat ethics file, THERE&#039;S YOUR BOY!&quot;  &quot;files do the work!  Just look to see who&#039;s ethics file is fat&quot;  

The staff had fat ethics files, the public&#039;s were empty.  One or two &quot;late to course&quot; KRs, a bounced check, a PTS connection.  Public files were skinny little things.  

LRH could never be wrong, ...but I would wonder about this point, staff members will always have fatter files!

Course, that was before I was on OT levels and spent buy-a-house-money on sec checks and got all those sweet Session KRs.

but those are tales for another day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177258">clearlypissedoff</a>.</p>
<p>Yah, We didn&#8217;t write up our buddies or close co-workers much.  As EO I saw a lot of pissy KRs based on someone&#8217;s pique.  Those were often laced with evaluations on the person&#8217;s tone level or intention.  (gak)  </p>
<p>Seniors gets pissed because the stats are down and you didn&#8217;t make an insane target:  KR &#8211; he&#8217;s protecting his arse.   (you&#8217;re supposed to write a JE, fool!) (job endangerment chit)</p>
<p>I remember when the stand-alone KR policy was released.  Now KRs were not just an overlooked seldom used thing part of &#8220;Staff Member Reports&#8221;.  It was a big deal.  We all had to M4 starrate it, and there a staff meeting with much discussion and agreement on how valuable the policy was.  THIS was a way we could take responsibility for our group and area and ensure it was all 100 percent on policy and in tech.  Ethics, Tech and Admin, right?  This was the way to win.  Had to have ethics in or tech would never go in.  </p>
<p>(I never want to have alzheimer&#8217;s but if it happens, at least I will be hopefully blessed with forgetting all this shit)</p>
<p>After that policy was released and agreed to, KRs really became a thing. </p>
<p>My ethics folders exploded with KRs after every &#8220;justice&#8221; action.  I got creamed a bunch of times &#8211; (stats up? no ethics protection for YOU, we&#8217;re flowing power to the execs!)</p>
<p>One of the most difficult things to swallow and deal with as a staff member was the interrog.  A couple times I was illegally ordered to abandon my post to assume a different one (musical chairs) or some such thing, I would protest, write reports, refuse, etc. and then the interrog would come out.  </p>
<p>For those who haven&#8217;t had this blessing&#8230; it&#8217;s a nice survey sheet that is given to every single staff member and they MUST fill it out and give it to Ethics.  It&#8217;s a long list of questions such as:  &#8220;do you know of any out ethics activities X is involved in?&#8221;  &#8220;has X ever given you false data, out tech verbal tech?  &#8220;do you know of any ethics violations X has been guilty of?&#8221;  &#8220;Has X spread any entheta to you?&#8221;  &#8220;has X given you any enemy lines?&#8221;</p>
<p>The responses were telling.  Old beefs would be reported, little bitchy complaints, vague disagreements, and the 3 times you were late in the last 3 years or didn&#8217;t report stats on time or whatever.  (or the time you broke and told your senior to FUCK OFF)  </p>
<p>People I would have thought to have my back DIDN&#8217;T.   They filled out their interrog with any little thing.  One part cover your ass, one part suck-up to the powers that be, one part hidden bitches, one part truly thinking that they were doing the right thing, and one or two asshats you&#8217;d rejected as a 2D, getting their revenge.</p>
<p>Who had my back and who didn&#8217;t was always telling.  I have not forgotten.  (I&#8217;m lookin at YOU TK) </p>
<p>As EO, I would sometimes ponder the &#8220;Fat Ethics File&#8221; thing.  Hubbster&#8217;s policies on finding SPs:  &#8220;look for the fat ethics file, THERE&#8217;S YOUR BOY!&#8221;  &#8220;files do the work!  Just look to see who&#8217;s ethics file is fat&#8221;  </p>
<p>The staff had fat ethics files, the public&#8217;s were empty.  One or two &#8220;late to course&#8221; KRs, a bounced check, a PTS connection.  Public files were skinny little things.  </p>
<p>LRH could never be wrong, &#8230;but I would wonder about this point, staff members will always have fatter files!</p>
<p>Course, that was before I was on OT levels and spent buy-a-house-money on sec checks and got all those sweet Session KRs.</p>
<p>but those are tales for another day.</p>
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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177259&quot;&gt;Barbet&lt;/a&gt;.

The criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology is a high control environment. It makes no difference what the ostensible purpose is, the real purpose is to make the victims feel good about being victimised.

People more experienced and qualified than me have written about it, e.g. &quot;opening minds&quot; by Jon Atack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177259">Barbet</a>.</p>
<p>The criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology is a high control environment. It makes no difference what the ostensible purpose is, the real purpose is to make the victims feel good about being victimised.</p>
<p>People more experienced and qualified than me have written about it, e.g. &#8220;opening minds&#8221; by Jon Atack.</p>
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		By: rivercs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177281&quot;&gt;WhatAreYourCrimes&lt;/a&gt;.

You do that, WAYC, and this never-in will back you up 125%, to the point of individually emailing everybody I know, posting it all over my FB wall, tweeting about it to my several hundred followers, phoning people to whom I&#039;m closest, and helping pay for it by donating (more) to Amnesty towards this endeavor.]]></description>
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<p>You do that, WAYC, and this never-in will back you up 125%, to the point of individually emailing everybody I know, posting it all over my FB wall, tweeting about it to my several hundred followers, phoning people to whom I&#8217;m closest, and helping pay for it by donating (more) to Amnesty towards this endeavor.</p>
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		By: George M. White		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After reading this post, I actually regret not having &quot;overboarded&quot; Miscavige off the deck of the Freewinds into the Bay near an island in the Caribbean in 1989 when I had the chance.  It would have saved Scientology a lot of BS.
   The biggest Scientology event I ever attended was at Flag in about 1978 or so.  A german man was telling us why we should get onto OT VII.  The logic was clear.  You could reduce your cost per hour for auditing under the supervision of a C/S.  There were at least 1,500 in the auditorium and beyond into the hallways.  He said &quot;If you pay $8,000 for the level and $1,200 every six months, the more hours you audit, the lower the cost.  Thousands got onto the level because I called them for the SO unit a few months later.  Most on OT VII got into session everyday, flew ruds, and then reported the session.  No one bothered them until Miscavige came along and declared the I/C as a suppressive.
    This joke with Miscavige has gone on too long.  This guy needs to retire tomorrow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this post, I actually regret not having &#8220;overboarded&#8221; Miscavige off the deck of the Freewinds into the Bay near an island in the Caribbean in 1989 when I had the chance.  It would have saved Scientology a lot of BS.<br />
   The biggest Scientology event I ever attended was at Flag in about 1978 or so.  A german man was telling us why we should get onto OT VII.  The logic was clear.  You could reduce your cost per hour for auditing under the supervision of a C/S.  There were at least 1,500 in the auditorium and beyond into the hallways.  He said &#8220;If you pay $8,000 for the level and $1,200 every six months, the more hours you audit, the lower the cost.  Thousands got onto the level because I called them for the SO unit a few months later.  Most on OT VII got into session everyday, flew ruds, and then reported the session.  No one bothered them until Miscavige came along and declared the I/C as a suppressive.<br />
    This joke with Miscavige has gone on too long.  This guy needs to retire tomorrow.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177290&quot;&gt;OhioBuckeye&lt;/a&gt;.

Nothing that elaborate OhioBuckeye.  Avoiding paying Fed &#038; State Employer side contributions can make a business owner rich by itself.   Which is one reason why people employ illegal aliens in lieu of legal workers.  

I remember one scamology s/w company who made a lot of $ for the the owners avoiding Fed taxes, The Software Works.  I met a person who worked in that company&#039;s finance area.  The company made tons of money over the years refusing to pay overtime and the income taxes that went along with it.  Ripping off the employees and the government.]]></description>
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<p>Nothing that elaborate OhioBuckeye.  Avoiding paying Fed &amp; State Employer side contributions can make a business owner rich by itself.   Which is one reason why people employ illegal aliens in lieu of legal workers.  </p>
<p>I remember one scamology s/w company who made a lot of $ for the the owners avoiding Fed taxes, The Software Works.  I met a person who worked in that company&#8217;s finance area.  The company made tons of money over the years refusing to pay overtime and the income taxes that went along with it.  Ripping off the employees and the government.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2017 15:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177264&quot;&gt;Tim-S&lt;/a&gt;.

Tim- VERY interesting insight into the commercial (non-religious) Labor practices of the CoS. Especially about the gold.  Managing buy backs of gold in lieu of wages could be way to launder or hide church income/donations from their members and keep it off the books?????  

Would love to get others&#039; opinion on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-100/#comment-177264">Tim-S</a>.</p>
<p>Tim- VERY interesting insight into the commercial (non-religious) Labor practices of the CoS. Especially about the gold.  Managing buy backs of gold in lieu of wages could be way to launder or hide church income/donations from their members and keep it off the books?????  </p>
<p>Would love to get others&#8217; opinion on this.</p>
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