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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved the cartoons. Next time girls, when given a new word that you have to look up, bring a pen and paper so you wont forget. LOL

Lance Caldwell]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the cartoons. Next time girls, when given a new word that you have to look up, bring a pen and paper so you wont forget. LOL</p>
<p>Lance Caldwell</p>
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		By: Lance Caldwell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192258&quot;&gt;Peter Norton&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello again,

I wrote before about the ramblings of LRH, and I had no idea what he was actually talking about. Perhaps I was wrong, and his ramblings about space people being blowing up, Jesus never was on the cross, (so why the cross on the top of their buildings), and other secrets that only those who were deep into the cult would know was either true, or coded messages that I had not paid to know about. 

I believe that instead of a cross on the top of their buildings they should change it to a DC-8. Perhaps the crosses on top of the buildings represents a DC-8 flying in all the people to Earth. Is this another symbol that you understand at the higher level, or another &quot;What the F--- is this&quot; moment. 

I also watched with interest the Ted Koppel interview with DM in 1992. You could see the increasing frustration of DM, and believe me I think that if they were in a Scientology room with DM and his goons, Ted would have been in trouble. DM was really trying to take charge of the interview with the pointing finger, and body movements.

Interesting point was when Ted Koppel asked about the money aspect for someone who was not rich or famous and how they could pay the outrageous prices that Scientology charges for their classes. The basic answer of &quot;They just take the classes,&quot; was not very helpful. I also wish that DM would have had to &quot;Put up, or shut up&quot; (afterwards, he decided to shut up and not appear in anymore interviews) about the plan to put the patients in Alaska. Any more than the &quot;fastest growing religion in the World,&quot; and &quot;We do good works all around the World.&quot; Oh, sorry, they got locked away in a volt and someone moved a comma. Will have to write the proof all over again. I will get right back to you. 

I must admit, I am hooked on watching the videos on the computer. Interview with LRH wife/girlfriend, was interesting when she said that &quot;I told my girlfriend that if I tell you I am going to marry this man, tie me to a chair.&quot; LOL. She thought him &quot;interesting&quot; but crazy as a loon, and I believe a bit dangerous. 

Well, back to reading your great comments, and watching more interviews with Leah, Mike, Paul, and the rest of the great people who have spoken out on Scientology. 

One other thing. They are very close to enough signatures to have the IRS look into the tax status of Scientology. I urge each and every one of you, your friends and family to sign also. 

Lance Caldwell]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192258">Peter Norton</a>.</p>
<p>Hello again,</p>
<p>I wrote before about the ramblings of LRH, and I had no idea what he was actually talking about. Perhaps I was wrong, and his ramblings about space people being blowing up, Jesus never was on the cross, (so why the cross on the top of their buildings), and other secrets that only those who were deep into the cult would know was either true, or coded messages that I had not paid to know about. </p>
<p>I believe that instead of a cross on the top of their buildings they should change it to a DC-8. Perhaps the crosses on top of the buildings represents a DC-8 flying in all the people to Earth. Is this another symbol that you understand at the higher level, or another &#8220;What the F&#8212; is this&#8221; moment. </p>
<p>I also watched with interest the Ted Koppel interview with DM in 1992. You could see the increasing frustration of DM, and believe me I think that if they were in a Scientology room with DM and his goons, Ted would have been in trouble. DM was really trying to take charge of the interview with the pointing finger, and body movements.</p>
<p>Interesting point was when Ted Koppel asked about the money aspect for someone who was not rich or famous and how they could pay the outrageous prices that Scientology charges for their classes. The basic answer of &#8220;They just take the classes,&#8221; was not very helpful. I also wish that DM would have had to &#8220;Put up, or shut up&#8221; (afterwards, he decided to shut up and not appear in anymore interviews) about the plan to put the patients in Alaska. Any more than the &#8220;fastest growing religion in the World,&#8221; and &#8220;We do good works all around the World.&#8221; Oh, sorry, they got locked away in a volt and someone moved a comma. Will have to write the proof all over again. I will get right back to you. </p>
<p>I must admit, I am hooked on watching the videos on the computer. Interview with LRH wife/girlfriend, was interesting when she said that &#8220;I told my girlfriend that if I tell you I am going to marry this man, tie me to a chair.&#8221; LOL. She thought him &#8220;interesting&#8221; but crazy as a loon, and I believe a bit dangerous. </p>
<p>Well, back to reading your great comments, and watching more interviews with Leah, Mike, Paul, and the rest of the great people who have spoken out on Scientology. </p>
<p>One other thing. They are very close to enough signatures to have the IRS look into the tax status of Scientology. I urge each and every one of you, your friends and family to sign also. </p>
<p>Lance Caldwell</p>
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		By: JBX		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192461</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192459&quot;&gt;James Rosso&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh cool. I&#039;ll have to check that out. Since their Scientology series is a little older (late 2015,early 2016 I think) I googled it to see what people said about it then. 

Mike Rinder had some great thoughts on the series, really highlighting  how seriously desperate Scientology is for new recruits by pointing out how barren the LA orgs were. On at least one occasion, Ross was the only one in his class...and he also got the hilarious question &quot;are you 100% American?&quot; They couldn&#039;t believe that 2 Americans would walk in off the street and sign up for courses. 

Ouch!

Not looking good Davey!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192459">James Rosso</a>.</p>
<p>Oh cool. I&#8217;ll have to check that out. Since their Scientology series is a little older (late 2015,early 2016 I think) I googled it to see what people said about it then. </p>
<p>Mike Rinder had some great thoughts on the series, really highlighting  how seriously desperate Scientology is for new recruits by pointing out how barren the LA orgs were. On at least one occasion, Ross was the only one in his class&#8230;and he also got the hilarious question &#8220;are you 100% American?&#8221; They couldn&#8217;t believe that 2 Americans would walk in off the street and sign up for courses. </p>
<p>Ouch!</p>
<p>Not looking good Davey!</p>
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		By: James Rosso		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192361&quot;&gt;JBX&lt;/a&gt;.

Second that. I started listening to their podcast for the scientology series and stayed for the ufo stuff.]]></description>
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<p>Second that. I started listening to their podcast for the scientology series and stayed for the ufo stuff.</p>
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		By: Cecybeans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 02:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;ve all hit it on the head.  Humor is cathartic and very powerful.  Things that don&#039;t stand up to humor are weak and brittle.  South Park, SNL and other shows have done more sometimes than serious treatments to show people the absurdity of certain ideas or dogmas.

Powerful people that cannot poke fun at themselves once in a while are considered weak and two-dimensional.  Look at William Shatner.  The only reason he&#039;s survived this long is that he can take himself with a large grain of salt and laugh at himself.  

DM cannot do interviews because he is an abject failure when it comes to going off script and delivering anything but canned lines.  He has to have complete control of the environment and the audience.  He is nothing more than a smarmy little salesman, a performer, a bully that does not command through respect but fear, I think he knows it.  Those type are always cowardly.   When you cannot hold your own with Ted Koppel asking a couple of hardball questions, you don&#039;t have much of a case for anything.  Especially when you have to rely on self-aggrandizing b.s. and claims with no proof to make a point.

He would get eaten up by anyone on the street with a microphone these days, much less someone with a journalism degree.  People are becoming much less impressed with wild and unsubstantiated claims.  We&#039;ve had to watch too many late night infomercials and seen too many defective product recalls to be that easily snowed.  We are cynical enough to know a scam when we see one.

And here&#039;s a hint Davey.  Young people who talk like starry-eyed automatons and use hard-sell tactics are good for selling cellphones but not religions.  We&#039;ve also been telemarketed to death and can recognize those &quot;coffee is for closers&quot; pitches from a great distance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve all hit it on the head.  Humor is cathartic and very powerful.  Things that don&#8217;t stand up to humor are weak and brittle.  South Park, SNL and other shows have done more sometimes than serious treatments to show people the absurdity of certain ideas or dogmas.</p>
<p>Powerful people that cannot poke fun at themselves once in a while are considered weak and two-dimensional.  Look at William Shatner.  The only reason he&#8217;s survived this long is that he can take himself with a large grain of salt and laugh at himself.  </p>
<p>DM cannot do interviews because he is an abject failure when it comes to going off script and delivering anything but canned lines.  He has to have complete control of the environment and the audience.  He is nothing more than a smarmy little salesman, a performer, a bully that does not command through respect but fear, I think he knows it.  Those type are always cowardly.   When you cannot hold your own with Ted Koppel asking a couple of hardball questions, you don&#8217;t have much of a case for anything.  Especially when you have to rely on self-aggrandizing b.s. and claims with no proof to make a point.</p>
<p>He would get eaten up by anyone on the street with a microphone these days, much less someone with a journalism degree.  People are becoming much less impressed with wild and unsubstantiated claims.  We&#8217;ve had to watch too many late night infomercials and seen too many defective product recalls to be that easily snowed.  We are cynical enough to know a scam when we see one.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a hint Davey.  Young people who talk like starry-eyed automatons and use hard-sell tactics are good for selling cellphones but not religions.  We&#8217;ve also been telemarketed to death and can recognize those &#8220;coffee is for closers&#8221; pitches from a great distance.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192338&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you know Mel Brooks was a combat engineer in WW2? Defusing landmines and such. He&#039;s seen the worst of humanity and yet gives us comedy relief from life&#039;s suffering by cleverly satirizing the agony. He&#039;s quite the fellow, a genius in my book. .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192338">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Did you know Mel Brooks was a combat engineer in WW2? Defusing landmines and such. He&#8217;s seen the worst of humanity and yet gives us comedy relief from life&#8217;s suffering by cleverly satirizing the agony. He&#8217;s quite the fellow, a genius in my book. .</p>
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		By: Joshua Belyeu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192362&quot;&gt;Has-been thetan&lt;/a&gt;.

The legalism I was raised in was very much the same way. I&#039;d walk into the house after being chased and/or beaten by school bullies...only to hear my aunt Pat listening to Bible audio tapes where the narrator sounded one step from a coma. The rare times I tried asking questions, both she and my uncle Wayne became very upset. Toward the end of her life here, my Mom said one of her biggest regrets was not getting my sister and I away from them both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192362">Has-been thetan</a>.</p>
<p>The legalism I was raised in was very much the same way. I&#8217;d walk into the house after being chased and/or beaten by school bullies&#8230;only to hear my aunt Pat listening to Bible audio tapes where the narrator sounded one step from a coma. The rare times I tried asking questions, both she and my uncle Wayne became very upset. Toward the end of her life here, my Mom said one of her biggest regrets was not getting my sister and I away from them both.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2017 00:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192369&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m honestly not sure, if you&#039;re complimenting or insulting me with that.]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m honestly not sure, if you&#8217;re complimenting or insulting me with that.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2017 23:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192327&quot;&gt;Teen&lt;/a&gt;.

Or could be....a short coward hides]]></description>
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<p>Or could be&#8230;.a short coward hides</p>
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		By: Cecybeans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2017 23:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192414&quot;&gt;Cgarrison&lt;/a&gt;.

Cgarrison - sorry for your painful journey.  But I&#039;m glad you have a better sense of your whole self.  I think that not only do these decoder rings and buzz words help make things feel special and unique in these groups  - like they speak a special language nobody else can translate or relate to -  they are also very useful in objectifying both feelings and people - neutralizing them by putting them into neat little pre-judged categories that can be jettisoned or ignored.  That helps to make them separate.  

I used to ride the train with a bunch of first-year law students.  They almost always spoke in legal phrases and the hand-me-down Latin of the courtroom.  As if they were the center of the world and the rest of us were just idiot mopes revolving around them that didn&#039;t understand what was important, what was really going on.  After reading One L about Harvard Law, and Take the Bar and Beat Me about Yale law school, I realized that, like the Marine Corps or something - they were training people to re-wire their reality, to think differently than the rest of us.  It&#039;s an indoctrination.

The language of many groups is separation, you&#039;re right.  To elevate a person to thinking they are different and special, but also to stereotype or distance people that are not part of the &quot;club&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-115/#comment-192414">Cgarrison</a>.</p>
<p>Cgarrison &#8211; sorry for your painful journey.  But I&#8217;m glad you have a better sense of your whole self.  I think that not only do these decoder rings and buzz words help make things feel special and unique in these groups  &#8211; like they speak a special language nobody else can translate or relate to &#8211;  they are also very useful in objectifying both feelings and people &#8211; neutralizing them by putting them into neat little pre-judged categories that can be jettisoned or ignored.  That helps to make them separate.  </p>
<p>I used to ride the train with a bunch of first-year law students.  They almost always spoke in legal phrases and the hand-me-down Latin of the courtroom.  As if they were the center of the world and the rest of us were just idiot mopes revolving around them that didn&#8217;t understand what was important, what was really going on.  After reading One L about Harvard Law, and Take the Bar and Beat Me about Yale law school, I realized that, like the Marine Corps or something &#8211; they were training people to re-wire their reality, to think differently than the rest of us.  It&#8217;s an indoctrination.</p>
<p>The language of many groups is separation, you&#8217;re right.  To elevate a person to thinking they are different and special, but also to stereotype or distance people that are not part of the &#8220;club&#8221;.</p>
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