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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2015 06:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100281&quot;&gt;Annie&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds like a straight-forward police matter. The criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology can hide a lot behind contracts, but I would be shocked to find that applying for credit cards in the name of others falls under even those contracts.

$cientology - the game where you win by leaving...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100281">Annie</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds like a straight-forward police matter. The criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology can hide a lot behind contracts, but I would be shocked to find that applying for credit cards in the name of others falls under even those contracts.</p>
<p>$cientology &#8211; the game where you win by leaving&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wendy M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 19:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can identify with this RB! You can relate a long story in relatively few words - its a true talent you have. Thank you - this one struck home for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can identify with this RB! You can relate a long story in relatively few words &#8211; its a true talent you have. Thank you &#8211; this one struck home for me.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 16:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100281&quot;&gt;Annie&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Annie,Good to meet you.I did a lot in Sea Org with registering public for all sorts of auditing and training at Asho F and yes I did twist some arms to take out second mortgages or ask parents or granny etc for money.Not proud of that at all. However with all I went through I never was asked to change personal financial info on public to make them feel they had more money than they did.Disgusting and so typical of the cos-cult money machine of today.That was always there of course but it has been slammed to a whole new floor with the blood money grubbing going on in 2015.Always Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100281">Annie</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Annie,Good to meet you.I did a lot in Sea Org with registering public for all sorts of auditing and training at Asho F and yes I did twist some arms to take out second mortgages or ask parents or granny etc for money.Not proud of that at all. However with all I went through I never was asked to change personal financial info on public to make them feel they had more money than they did.Disgusting and so typical of the cos-cult money machine of today.That was always there of course but it has been slammed to a whole new floor with the blood money grubbing going on in 2015.Always Ann B.</p>
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		By: Annie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100152&quot;&gt;Lori S&lt;/a&gt;.

Frankly it gets even more insidious than that. If you don&#039;t have the money, their financial wizards will lift your confidential information from your file and use it to apply for credit under your name...credit cards, equity loans, even taking out a second mortgage on your home...then they will &quot;surprise&quot; you with the &quot;fantastic&quot; news that you have more money and credit to your name than you had believed...and aren&#039;t you just so happy now that you can keep paying your way up the bridge?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100152">Lori S</a>.</p>
<p>Frankly it gets even more insidious than that. If you don&#8217;t have the money, their financial wizards will lift your confidential information from your file and use it to apply for credit under your name&#8230;credit cards, equity loans, even taking out a second mortgage on your home&#8230;then they will &#8220;surprise&#8221; you with the &#8220;fantastic&#8221; news that you have more money and credit to your name than you had believed&#8230;and aren&#8217;t you just so happy now that you can keep paying your way up the bridge?</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 15:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100250&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi John Locke,A really good post.Oh yes PTS2 I got all the PTSes that were to be gotten back then.I was called PTS for being labeled PTS.I dreamt in PTS.Glad we are out! XO Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100250">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>Hi John Locke,A really good post.Oh yes PTS2 I got all the PTSes that were to be gotten back then.I was called PTS for being labeled PTS.I dreamt in PTS.Glad we are out! XO Ann B.</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 14:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100217&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ann.  Yes, El Con set it up that way to keep the flock introverted so as to not spot that he was a criminal.  He wrote some accurate materials about sociopaths (SP&#039;s) as he was one and knew his own thought processes.  He even wrote ethics policy that if anyone pointed at a senior management terminal or hisself as being SP they were to be labeled Type 2 PTS.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100217">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ann.  Yes, El Con set it up that way to keep the flock introverted so as to not spot that he was a criminal.  He wrote some accurate materials about sociopaths (SP&#8217;s) as he was one and knew his own thought processes.  He even wrote ethics policy that if anyone pointed at a senior management terminal or hisself as being SP they were to be labeled Type 2 PTS.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100223</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100217&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi John Locke, Like your post.Or in my case plain pigheaded stubbornness made it harder for me to admit I was in deep #### with the Intel Guardians,once I saw that a lot more cognition followed.But Emotional as I still can be it is still going to be years of unlocking all of the garbage so I can absolutely cut all the chains of &quot;did I Cause all that to happen to me&quot;? I now know I did not I did my utmost best I could possibly do in SO and I got toasted to a crisp!Always Ann B]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100217">John Locke</a>.</p>
<p>Hi John Locke, Like your post.Or in my case plain pigheaded stubbornness made it harder for me to admit I was in deep #### with the Intel Guardians,once I saw that a lot more cognition followed.But Emotional as I still can be it is still going to be years of unlocking all of the garbage so I can absolutely cut all the chains of &#8220;did I Cause all that to happen to me&#8221;? I now know I did not I did my utmost best I could possibly do in SO and I got toasted to a crisp!Always Ann B</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 12:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100220&quot;&gt;Henry James&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Henry James, Thank you for your post.I always knew that there would be a lucky and blessed traveler who had not been completely bent out of shape by forces and changes to Sci as you posted.I am glad that you found parts of Scientology that really work for you.I loved Ron as a father for my years in the Sea Org until I realized there was something highly amiss within The SO which was creating beings who had decided they would form  their own rouge group against whoever they picked.Did Ron know? Maybe not at the moment but after months of the former treatment I feel he knew something and let it run.I too feel very strongly that Mike&#039;s Blog on the fringes of the Internet has the power to communicate forever and the solution you seek may appear amongst all our posts at any time.Please keep posting.I find hidden facets a good gems from all here always.Thank you for your shining self.Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100220">Henry James</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Henry James, Thank you for your post.I always knew that there would be a lucky and blessed traveler who had not been completely bent out of shape by forces and changes to Sci as you posted.I am glad that you found parts of Scientology that really work for you.I loved Ron as a father for my years in the Sea Org until I realized there was something highly amiss within The SO which was creating beings who had decided they would form  their own rouge group against whoever they picked.Did Ron know? Maybe not at the moment but after months of the former treatment I feel he knew something and let it run.I too feel very strongly that Mike&#8217;s Blog on the fringes of the Internet has the power to communicate forever and the solution you seek may appear amongst all our posts at any time.Please keep posting.I find hidden facets a good gems from all here always.Thank you for your shining self.Ann B.</p>
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		By: Henry James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 04:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100211&quot;&gt;Bruce&lt;/a&gt;.

Bruce, for me it was listening to reg&#039;s talk about what they were doing. In one way or another I have been involved in sales for a long time. I won&#039;t offer for sale anything that creates a withhold on my part. Hearing the reg&#039;s go on about taking their public&#039;s money was the point at which I began to &quot;look&quot;. By &#039;86 I had concluded I would have to wait for the religion to right itself. I came back in and got a tailor maid confessional
in 95, something like 18 hours into it got out on a Floating T/A, stayed there for weeks, finally ended the tailor made within another hour. After that I started on the PDC lectures without need or want of an Org. I have been happy as a &quot;Clam&quot; for an extended period of time without any desire to see the inside of an Org again. As I&#039;ve stated elsewhere, I must be the luckiest PC and student in the history of the religion. Henry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-14/#comment-100211">Bruce</a>.</p>
<p>Bruce, for me it was listening to reg&#8217;s talk about what they were doing. In one way or another I have been involved in sales for a long time. I won&#8217;t offer for sale anything that creates a withhold on my part. Hearing the reg&#8217;s go on about taking their public&#8217;s money was the point at which I began to &#8220;look&#8221;. By &#8217;86 I had concluded I would have to wait for the religion to right itself. I came back in and got a tailor maid confessional<br />
in 95, something like 18 hours into it got out on a Floating T/A, stayed there for weeks, finally ended the tailor made within another hour. After that I started on the PDC lectures without need or want of an Org. I have been happy as a &#8220;Clam&#8221; for an extended period of time without any desire to see the inside of an Org again. As I&#8217;ve stated elsewhere, I must be the luckiest PC and student in the history of the religion. Henry</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2015 04:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Regraded, the panel of Alan recognizing the truth about this group is great. IMO the character &quot;Alan&quot; is an extremely rare person.... I must have been the luckiest student and PC. I can say I changed completely after a jo berg, and the floating T/A&#039;s that occurred during the confessional. While I have never been known for being either nice or tolerant, after the confessional I became a real professional at putting across my F You&#039;s  with intention, particularly when in close proximity to HCO. In fact I tracked down the MAA that ordered me to the jo berg, told him what a fine person that I thought  he could become in a few life times. 
Then I stumbled into the PDC lectures, originals on reel to reel without all the copyright drivel. I can say that the confessional changed this life. The PDC&#039;s changed my future. I have no interest in attempting to change anyone&#039;s opinion about their experience. As I stated earlier I must have been the luckiest student and PC, I have no horror stories about failed courses or sessions or psycho Sups. The parts of scientology I have been exposed to work. A few of the people I have met in scientology... (well, everyone was someone before they walked in the door of the COS) shouldn&#039;t be allowed to own an ugly dog.
The problem is, who do you trust? Obviously LRH was overwhelmed from 71 onwards, add to the mix the GO, then of course there was Jane Kember and her complete personality change after a visit to a &quot;doctor&quot;, followed by Quentin&#039;s passing. The raids, the criminal trials, the law suits, threats of losing the church to receivership, then OSA( I have a great story about coby knight, for another post), Mr. Mayo, a little fooling around with power struggles, and finally the Shrimp. Who do you trust? Who has the size 14 balls and the common sense to wield that power?  The right person could change the religion(NOT THE CHURCH) in a year, we&#039;ve all seen what the wrong person has done. I don&#039;t have a solution, but I think a little blog like this could be just the place to find one. Thanking you in advance for your kind attention, Henry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Regraded, the panel of Alan recognizing the truth about this group is great. IMO the character &#8220;Alan&#8221; is an extremely rare person&#8230;. I must have been the luckiest student and PC. I can say I changed completely after a jo berg, and the floating T/A&#8217;s that occurred during the confessional. While I have never been known for being either nice or tolerant, after the confessional I became a real professional at putting across my F You&#8217;s  with intention, particularly when in close proximity to HCO. In fact I tracked down the MAA that ordered me to the jo berg, told him what a fine person that I thought  he could become in a few life times.<br />
Then I stumbled into the PDC lectures, originals on reel to reel without all the copyright drivel. I can say that the confessional changed this life. The PDC&#8217;s changed my future. I have no interest in attempting to change anyone&#8217;s opinion about their experience. As I stated earlier I must have been the luckiest student and PC, I have no horror stories about failed courses or sessions or psycho Sups. The parts of scientology I have been exposed to work. A few of the people I have met in scientology&#8230; (well, everyone was someone before they walked in the door of the COS) shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to own an ugly dog.<br />
The problem is, who do you trust? Obviously LRH was overwhelmed from 71 onwards, add to the mix the GO, then of course there was Jane Kember and her complete personality change after a visit to a &#8220;doctor&#8221;, followed by Quentin&#8217;s passing. The raids, the criminal trials, the law suits, threats of losing the church to receivership, then OSA( I have a great story about coby knight, for another post), Mr. Mayo, a little fooling around with power struggles, and finally the Shrimp. Who do you trust? Who has the size 14 balls and the common sense to wield that power?  The right person could change the religion(NOT THE CHURCH) in a year, we&#8217;ve all seen what the wrong person has done. I don&#8217;t have a solution, but I think a little blog like this could be just the place to find one. Thanking you in advance for your kind attention, Henry</p>
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