That’s because I’m OLD!

Nice read for me on this exchange. My auditing services on the Grades were very popular and I always wondered why because I was not really following “Keeping Scientology Working”. My services were free because I was a student. When I got a PC, the person was either off the streets or in a low wage job. They were so grateful for the attention, they just sort of went into a hypnotic state. In a way this was part of the scam of Scientology – hooking people.

I’m sure this will show up on Scientology TV…because people are curious…

AA, interesting thoughts and observations on something that is somewhat off-topic – so I’m tempted to respond, but will try to keep it brief.

Besides exteriorization, the illusory phenomenon that really hooks people into Scientology is supposed past lives. But as the infamous Bridey Murphy case ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridey_Murphy ) revealed, those really just the impressive-seeming product of the imaginative processes of the mind combined with subtle suggestion, what has since become infamous as false memory syndrome, the mechanism of which has been well-demonstrative in conclusive scientific research. The way that Scientology creates false memories (including probably also of some early childhood events that didn’t really happen), and then gets people to act on them as if they are real, including to the detriment of their present-day personal interests, is probably the closest thing to brainwashing that exists. If something like reincarnation (or, perhaps more likely, collective species memory) does exist, Scientology doesn’t really touch on the truth of it except perhaps rarely, and by accident.

If auditing isn’t hypnotic, or at least equivalent to a light trance (or “reverie,” a term Hubbard used that came from a book he recommended, Hypnotism Comes of Age) with induced suggestibility, then why does the current “Book One” Dianetic procedure start out with a “canceler” statement followed by having the auditor “count slowly and soothingly from 1 to 7” until “the preclear’s eyes close and you notice his eyelids flicker” – all classic, standard methods of hypnotic induction? Hubbard himself said of these that “counting sometimes produces a light hypnosis back of the reverie” and “a pre-clear after he closes his eyes will begin to flutter his eyelids. This a symptom of the very lightest level of hypnotic trance.” The way that hypnosis and trance states work, is that once an individual has become used to going into state under particular conditions – such as sitting down in the environment of an auditing room – they become conditioned to do so even if the induction (such as counting) is no longer used.

The Cult would be very busy indeed putting up hate websites about every audience member…

So many have offered their help and compassion to those who are suffering. They should be applauded.

The number of people from whom the cult has extorted money; unduly influenced; gang regged; wire fraud etc. would fill a stadium… it would be an excellent forum for the topic. (So many)!

Put all those people under one roof and let them exercise their right to free speech. Give them the floor to do something they’ve never, ever been able to do at any Scientology event–communicate the truth.

I think it would be extremely therapeutic for many of us who are out…

I can’t speak for everyone but one thing I miss most is having purpose… I really feel robbed of that. That and a sense of community spirit, being with my peers would mean a lot.

Our circumstances are probably far from ideal right now. But at least it’s the real deal.

BUT, such a GREAT RB!

The one, and only Hobson. “Yes, bathing is a lonely business.” Wonderful reference!