Keep in mind, newcomer, that rice and beans are an extremely healthy meal. The beans, particular, easily replace meat as a high protein source. 🙂 My wife was SO for 10 years and LOVED the rice and beans diet.

Perfect example of how you can take a person out of the cult
but you can’t always take the cult out of a person.

Such is the case with those who engage personal attacks.

Thanks for the reply and cyber hugs to you as well
🙂

CMO Lost, thanks for telling your story here – and particularly that bit about Hubbard telling you that you were “automatically OT.”

That would fit with what I have surmised, that Miscavige believes himself to already be some sort of OT, and thus not in need of further processing or auditing. If he was told by Hubbard what you were, he certainly could have taken that and run with it….

Titlewaves, Thank you for your interest. It’s unfortunate that people here cannot send each other private messages as I’d like to explain to some of you why I no longer have much desire to participate on this site.

When I post a comment here, I see that it “waits for moderation” for a time before it is posted. There have been some recent posts here that I felt really needed to be moderated and since they weren’t moderated, I have lost interest in continuing to participate here.

Given that those posts were not moderated, I can’t imagine what kind of posts would ever be moderated.

Many of you will know what I’m referring to. It’s may just be my opinion, but I have little interest in participating in any message board or blog where it’s OK for one member to engage in personal attacks on others without any kind of sanction or moderation.

I wish you all the very best.

finding and identifying these small but important things is very helpful to me.

I’m always working to strip away things so that I can decide for myself – it’s wild to suddenly “find” another way I’m still affected and still trapped.

It’s so good to have the outlet, – being able to come here – to say it out loud to others who will know just what I am talking about and will not explain it all away and tell me I’m off base.

<3
Thanks, guys.

Yup, only had to give up my teenage years and completing the long distance high school education I personally paid for (to be able to legally go to the “Secret Unit”). In the same conversation I had with LRH when he said that I was OT, he also had to define “perforated” for me!

I knew just enough about Scientology, to never pass up a word I did not understand, “Excuse me Sir, but what kind of paper do you need? Um (blush)… I don’t know what perforated is?” I quickly jumped from ordering perforated paper to running all kinds of operations.

Scary shit! And lots of quality time with DM. Even better!!!??!!

Already OT?! Without going through the levels? Will that saves quite a bit money.

Scientology is set up with many of the same dynamics and psychological exploits as business and financial scams, like MLMs (multi level marketing), so it’s no surprise that goes hand-in-hand with scientologists being involved in dubious schemes and business ventures; it’s also why a lot of scientologists work or own businesses in fields promoting products of little or no real value and using high-pressure sales techniques. A whole essay could be written, analyzing the comparisons in more depth.

I’d guess that Hubbard got burned in some unwise “investments” early on, as he apparently did towards the end. That may be why he insisted on keeping his money in cash, or cash equivalents, and then particularly during a time of high inflation around the 1970s, he essentially lost a lot of the money extracted from his followers, often at a sadly high personal price to them. Apparently Scientology still does that, which means that their cash reserves continue to lose “purchasing power” or effective value, though at a low rate during times of low inflation, but still some significant share of the tens of millions of dollars that they apparently continue to add every year – again, often at a high personal cost to the followers giving the money – simply goes to make up for the ongoing losses due to inflation, and following Hubbard’s investment policies.

One of the interesting phenomenon in Scientology, is that it originally attracted quite a few professionals, including even some engineers and scientists, but slowly that reversed. Now it’s almost entirely devoid of high-trained professionals, particularly people versed in scientific and mathematical analysis (such as financial experts), in part because rigorous and evidence-based thinking is diametrically opposed to Scientology training and indoctrination, and anyone with advanced education and competencies is immediately going to recognize Hubbard’s “work” for the sham it is.

Good for you. I totally agree Rip Van Winkle

Being interesting elicits praise from you fellow man and promotes individual creativity as you continue to try to please people around you with new art, entertainment, or even new valuable products to improve the lot of man, etc.. Basically, being interesting promotes individual freedom and happiness in the game of life.

In LRH’s Scientology, individual freedom is suppressed by cutting out all “interesting” individuality. Park creativity at the curb in Scientology and surrender your individuality so “the world can be saved”. Truth is: he attracted people who had these good intentions but he used those intentions to make slaves of them to do his bidding.

Like so many things in Scientology, there is an upside down, reverse process, but always with the intention to gain slaves. Truth and freedom are talked about endlessly, but instead of truth and freedom he delivered lies onto that blank slate of “interested” individuals to make them robotic slaves and lose their natural born freedom. Very un-American.