Umm; does opening a can of beer with your big toe really count as a Super Power OSD?

Bruce,

Wow. Thanks for the detailed accounting. Sorry you went through all that. Hopefully dave will get an equivalent karma experience.

This sounds correct. After OT8 he had to go back and redo the purif and SRD anyway.

No such details. I did ask if he did the research on the previous person, but he changed the subject pretty fast. He knew if he gave me the name I would have looked it up. Interesting enough he told me he was always a man for all him lifetimes and never wanted to be a woman. I told him that was too bad 🙂

Naw Peacemaker it has been failing ever since people started wondering about the very specific and very objective abilities Hubtard said people would gain on the lower Bridge. These have been being falsified since Day 1.

The fundamental problem is that it is very hard to draw a hard and fast line that people will agree on. I’ve run into atheists who think that all religion is a cult. Religious tolerance is a good thing generally so people can live together in a nation.

I think the most important thing to do is to give your children a solid foundation in your religious teachings or your philosophy, and explain what are the warning signs of a cult. When I was in a group (Local Church) that is often called a cult, I realized that although it was odd, when I left, there was no harassment. There was no real social control. More to the point, as a Christian I could feel that we were on the same page theologically.

Mary, that sounds like it was probably back around the time when I was declared a “clear” of one sort or another. Typically for Scientology, at one point a bunch of people were given such designations out of a mix of misguided enthusiasm, and cynical gaming of the system to get people hooked on more expensive services – and then it was suddenly declared to have all been a mistake, and an end was put to it (though, again, typically, in many cases, because it would have caused too much of an inconvenient “flap” with paying customers, the certifications that had already been granted weren’t actually withdrawn).

On the one hand, the post the other day from the woman who lives in an LA suburb where there are maybe a couple of dozen scientologists, but is apparently convinced that some large portion of the population are members, is evidence that those who remain in Scientology aren’t thinking analytically or critically, and unable to do a reality check by looking clearly at the world around them. But on the other hand, old-timers especially were brought up with such specific expectations, reinforced by accounts in Scientology publications, that phenomenon were real, that it’s hard to imagine that members don’t have some level of underlying disappointment and even disillusionment, that there is no evidence of the fulfillment of what they have been lead to believe so specifically in.

NuEspecially since their “fucking fantasy boat” probably would not still be afloat except for the many years of work myself and others put into it, while knowing (myself at least) that all we had to look forward to was agony and a slow, painful death. I was very naive and thought foolishly that they would be grateful for the hundreds (even thousands) of all-nighters keeping it going. I have been disabusedof that idea now.

Thank you, Aquamarine, for your comment.