Get lost!

FP
Just shut the F***k up!!

(Don’t know what the hell is up with no reply button on your last post to me, so I’m replying here.)

Are you for real?

Please explain how I could have abused the staff when I was lucky enough to never be in $cientology? Riddle me that.

The staff do things worthwhile?! Oh, dear. You’re delusional. All they do is sit around waiting for people to come in …but no one does. Ok, maybe one person comes in…lol. They do useless busy work so as not to notice that the org is empty and that they’re miserable.

What do I do worthwhile? I take excellent care of my husband and son. I give to legitimate charities. I fight against the vile abuses of Hubbard and DM. I spend quality time with friends and family. I always try to be the best person I can be. I show love to those who mean the world to me.

Thanks for asking. Hope that clears it up.

Your theme here is somewhat non-sequitur to the theme above here but this is quite usual for comment threads here – it’s a silly childish effort to deflect from the theme above.

Suddenly you are concerned over staff yet spend much of your free time abusing them! The abuse they receive is mostly from people like you. I was one of them for many years and the course rooms were full and the Orgs certainly weren’t empty. The hours were indeed long and the pay non-existent and I wasn’t verbally abused (well, some tried now and then). Yet these staff are still doing something worthwhile. You?

Wow! I did not know the scene had become so evil and insane . . . I ended up out in 1985. It was insane enough then, and evil . . . but the rules you cite above are beyond imagining in a sensible world.

Firstly, Hubbard tapped into, but deceived and conned us, on a subject and matter we all wanted.

We wanted to learn to truths of our true existence and spiritual nature and powers. He falsely promised that was what he’d deliver . . . but instead he delivered deceitful and false “research” and ABUSE.

However, honest research in the endeavor continued and wonderful gains have been achieved.

I did a presentation at the 2009 FZ Convention in Pasadena addressing the advances Alan Walter and I had made.

This is the tech write up concerning our Pasadena presentation link on ESMB.
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?14524-The-Tech-Error-of-%9262-%9263%97How-it-Went-Negative-RogerB%92s-FZ-Presentation-in-Pasadena
It includes the video of my presentation . . . the title of which is “The Tech Error of 1962-63 and How it Went Negative.”

In PT, I run a forum with a couple of hundred members being coached on applying Alan’s technical breakthroughs along with the materials I discovered and added to his published work. Here: http://knowledgism-practice-group.org

Roger

I realize this little story of yours is hypothetical but let’s get back to reality, shall we?

Staff is certainly not laughing. They work for pennies. They work absurd amounts of hours. They are verbally abused. Almost no one is on course. Their orgs are empty.

Yeah, they’re laughing… sure.

PeaceMaker, I’m not completely sure but I believe most, after an amount of time in the real world realize that they were conned. And that scamology is just that, a scam.

Cindy, long term communications analysis and real world non-existence of Indie groups.

Your last para is one of the most accurate things you have ever said here. Though your perspective on this truth is obviously different than others,

I doubt there are many who would aspire to having the gains you have had as you routinely demonstrate some of the most unpleasant characteristics of a fundamentalist. Your assertive certainty of your superiority is unappealing in the extreme.

But those who have not achieved gains, after being promised they would because the tech works 100% of the time — and paid dearly for that promise only to have it broken, they are understandably upset.

But what you can’t ever seem to come to grips with is that there are a LOT more people in the latter category than the former. It doesn’t compute to you as Hubbard says this is not possible because the tech always works and is self-correcting even when dealing with the 2 1/2% — which should be the rate of failure of scientology to produce guaranteed results.