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		By: Balletlady		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-265027</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264393&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

You can&#039;t save someone who does NOT want to be saved, you can ONLY save yourself 

 Some girls that left FLDS went right back...they could not deal with the separation from the ONLY life they&#039;ve ever lived. As with COS &#038; Amish &#038; some strict Conservative Baptist....they will shun you &#038; forbid your family having contact with you.  You are kept away from everything &#038; anyone you&#039;ve ever known.  

FEAR is the greatest motivator to stay IN where you feel comfortable...where you know how to talk the talk and walk the walk, despite not having enough food or money.  Critical Thinking is never achieved because you are forbidden to view anything outside the world of COS or any other cult like suppressive religion.

Going out to face life in a new world that you know little to nothing about, where you possibly have no family members or friends to feel safe with, no housing, no food, no utilities, no clothing, no education, no job, no money....that would scare the crap out of anyone, including myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264393">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t save someone who does NOT want to be saved, you can ONLY save yourself </p>
<p> Some girls that left FLDS went right back&#8230;they could not deal with the separation from the ONLY life they&#8217;ve ever lived. As with COS &amp; Amish &amp; some strict Conservative Baptist&#8230;.they will shun you &amp; forbid your family having contact with you.  You are kept away from everything &amp; anyone you&#8217;ve ever known.  </p>
<p>FEAR is the greatest motivator to stay IN where you feel comfortable&#8230;where you know how to talk the talk and walk the walk, despite not having enough food or money.  Critical Thinking is never achieved because you are forbidden to view anything outside the world of COS or any other cult like suppressive religion.</p>
<p>Going out to face life in a new world that you know little to nothing about, where you possibly have no family members or friends to feel safe with, no housing, no food, no utilities, no clothing, no education, no job, no money&#8230;.that would scare the crap out of anyone, including myself.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-265000</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 19:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264354&quot;&gt;Newcomer&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Man has used belief systems to control his fellow man for thousands of years.  So how has that worked out for us.&quot;

Bingo.  

Answer: Not well.

As justification for war self-abnegation, slavery - man&#039;s inhumanity to man - on and on - make them noble for complying. 

God wants it.  Jesus wants it.  Allah will be pleased  Zeus and Athena conferred and sent an oracle.  The Pharoah...etc., etc., you&#039;ll be HIGHLY rewarded in the afterlife...you&#039;re safeguarding your eterniity.

Take your pick of endless reasons given as to how and why its ALWAYS the noble thing to do, the right thing to do for people to be either perpetrators of inhumanity, or its victims.

Without a noble reason, how can men be made to leave their homes and fight strange people in strange lands where the likelihood is  they&#039;ll get killed or maimed?   Work their entire lives without pay;  agree that their lives and happiness are less valuable than the lives and happiness of others?

Give them a grand, noble, beautiful, spiritual, godly reason, that&#039;s how.  

Make it a matter of their principles, their honor, and what the Higher Power wants for them, their ultimate reward, and, last but not least, their eternal salvation. 

Works every time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264354">Newcomer</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Man has used belief systems to control his fellow man for thousands of years.  So how has that worked out for us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo.  </p>
<p>Answer: Not well.</p>
<p>As justification for war self-abnegation, slavery &#8211; man&#8217;s inhumanity to man &#8211; on and on &#8211; make them noble for complying. </p>
<p>God wants it.  Jesus wants it.  Allah will be pleased  Zeus and Athena conferred and sent an oracle.  The Pharoah&#8230;etc., etc., you&#8217;ll be HIGHLY rewarded in the afterlife&#8230;you&#8217;re safeguarding your eterniity.</p>
<p>Take your pick of endless reasons given as to how and why its ALWAYS the noble thing to do, the right thing to do for people to be either perpetrators of inhumanity, or its victims.</p>
<p>Without a noble reason, how can men be made to leave their homes and fight strange people in strange lands where the likelihood is  they&#8217;ll get killed or maimed?   Work their entire lives without pay;  agree that their lives and happiness are less valuable than the lives and happiness of others?</p>
<p>Give them a grand, noble, beautiful, spiritual, godly reason, that&#8217;s how.  </p>
<p>Make it a matter of their principles, their honor, and what the Higher Power wants for them, their ultimate reward, and, last but not least, their eternal salvation. </p>
<p>Works every time!</p>
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		By: Curiosus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 16:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264347&quot;&gt;bixntram&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;And…the goal of Buddhism is NOT to come back.&quot;

Yes and no, it depends on the motivation.

Buddhists from the greater vehicle have the purpose to come back in order to help suffering beings. The main purpose is to help, but for this they have to come back.

Buddhists from the lesser vehicle have a goal of personal liberation. When they reach that goal, they are free from automatic reincarnations and they can choose to come back or not.

According to Tibetan Masters, the human form is the best in order to work on the spiritual level, which is not possible as animals or deities. Tibetan Buddhists make vows in order to be reborn as human beings, so that they can continue their practice until they reach the state of   Buddha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264347">bixntram</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;And…the goal of Buddhism is NOT to come back.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes and no, it depends on the motivation.</p>
<p>Buddhists from the greater vehicle have the purpose to come back in order to help suffering beings. The main purpose is to help, but for this they have to come back.</p>
<p>Buddhists from the lesser vehicle have a goal of personal liberation. When they reach that goal, they are free from automatic reincarnations and they can choose to come back or not.</p>
<p>According to Tibetan Masters, the human form is the best in order to work on the spiritual level, which is not possible as animals or deities. Tibetan Buddhists make vows in order to be reborn as human beings, so that they can continue their practice until they reach the state of   Buddha.</p>
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		By: Rosemarie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 16:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RB nails it again.  I am always pleasantly amazed at his humor along with his accurate targeting of the cognitive dissonance that exists within the group...especially the young ones. LOL  I have read a lot &quot;spiritual&quot; books since I left and he definitely takes some of the juicy bits like reincarnation, spirit being separate from body, overcoming body issues with spiritual realizations, psychology of mind over matter, etc.  There is some truth in all of it for everybody, but not for everybody...every single time like he said.  When that happens its a control mechanism as you can see in the above cartoon.  When I read Nathan Rich&#039;s book you can see that as a very young child scn did not appeal to him just out of his own instinct.  There is no one size fits all but they do try to make it so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RB nails it again.  I am always pleasantly amazed at his humor along with his accurate targeting of the cognitive dissonance that exists within the group&#8230;especially the young ones. LOL  I have read a lot &#8220;spiritual&#8221; books since I left and he definitely takes some of the juicy bits like reincarnation, spirit being separate from body, overcoming body issues with spiritual realizations, psychology of mind over matter, etc.  There is some truth in all of it for everybody, but not for everybody&#8230;every single time like he said.  When that happens its a control mechanism as you can see in the above cartoon.  When I read Nathan Rich&#8217;s book you can see that as a very young child scn did not appeal to him just out of his own instinct.  There is no one size fits all but they do try to make it so.</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264449&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

IYA,

Lmao! That was YOU??? I’m Sooo sorry about that!

Kat]]></description>
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<p>IYA,</p>
<p>Lmao! That was YOU??? I’m Sooo sorry about that!</p>
<p>Kat</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264369&quot;&gt;pluvo&lt;/a&gt;.

Pluvo,

I thought he had already come back as an overweight 30 year old still living in his moms basement and delivering pizza to buy junk food and video games. And trolling people on the internet.  Am I wrong??

Kat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264369">pluvo</a>.</p>
<p>Pluvo,</p>
<p>I thought he had already come back as an overweight 30 year old still living in his moms basement and delivering pizza to buy junk food and video games. And trolling people on the internet.  Am I wrong??</p>
<p>Kat</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264689&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Skyler,

Just like the white rabbit in Through the Looking Glass.

If you spend too much time worrying about time, you won’t have any left!

Kat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264689">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Skyler,</p>
<p>Just like the white rabbit in Through the Looking Glass.</p>
<p>If you spend too much time worrying about time, you won’t have any left!</p>
<p>Kat</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 13:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264419&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Kat said:&quot;…. Some cults implode when the “apocalypse” doesn’t manifest, or the teachings have a specific time frame that doesn’t come to pass.&quot;

Hubbard was a past master of giving excuses why something didn&#039;t turn out as he predicted, always  enforcing somehow the idea that HE was faultless and that SOMEONE ELSE was the reason.  Sadly, too few still in can recognize the truth that the &quot;TECH&quot;(techniques) never did perform as promoted and that it only worked as Hubbard  INTENDED -- to trap the gullible as his slaves, the amassing of which somehow made him &quot;stronger&quot;.  Sad little man….  AND Mustsavage is even sadder and littler.  

scientology* IS imploding; slower than many of us would like, but it has met its Waterloo in the Internet and the information Age.
*I refuse to capitalize scientology even when not doing so sticks out grammatically like a sore thumb. The cult deserves no respect, not even that meaningless bit of recognition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264419">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Kat said:&#8221;…. Some cults implode when the “apocalypse” doesn’t manifest, or the teachings have a specific time frame that doesn’t come to pass.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hubbard was a past master of giving excuses why something didn&#8217;t turn out as he predicted, always  enforcing somehow the idea that HE was faultless and that SOMEONE ELSE was the reason.  Sadly, too few still in can recognize the truth that the &#8220;TECH&#8221;(techniques) never did perform as promoted and that it only worked as Hubbard  INTENDED &#8212; to trap the gullible as his slaves, the amassing of which somehow made him &#8220;stronger&#8221;.  Sad little man….  AND Mustsavage is even sadder and littler.  </p>
<p>scientology* IS imploding; slower than many of us would like, but it has met its Waterloo in the Internet and the information Age.<br />
*I refuse to capitalize scientology even when not doing so sticks out grammatically like a sore thumb. The cult deserves no respect, not even that meaningless bit of recognition.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 12:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264642&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyx75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Chuck:&quot;Long runway con, no liftoff for any of them.&quot;

Long runway con, no liftoff, *CRASH*! for all of them, sooner or later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264642">chuckbeattyx75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Chuck:&#8221;Long runway con, no liftoff for any of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Long runway con, no liftoff, *CRASH*! for all of them, sooner or later.</p>
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		By: jere lull (38years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 10:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264307&quot;&gt;Curiosus&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;As Hubbard was dominated by anger and craving, according to Buddhist teachings, the chances are high that he was reborn as an animal, or even worse.&quot;

He must be that BT plaguing my lower GI tract, then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-188/#comment-264307">Curiosus</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;As Hubbard was dominated by anger and craving, according to Buddhist teachings, the chances are high that he was reborn as an animal, or even worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>He must be that BT plaguing my lower GI tract, then.</p>
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