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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2015 17:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome!

I wish this could be sent to everyone on the IAS = Church of Scientology mailing list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!</p>
<p>I wish this could be sent to everyone on the IAS = Church of Scientology mailing list.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 20:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91285&quot;&gt;Roger Hornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Roger, Thank you for your post.You do make me think along a different path than my spirit wants me to walk &#038; the more points of view then the better my view will become.But you know I will always be a sensitive romantic spirit wanting all to breath free &#038; follow the way they want to go.You help me though to look @ different facets of the crystal.Now I so see where Ron &#038; David Miscavige trapped each other.Thank you. XO Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91285">Roger Hornaday</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Roger, Thank you for your post.You do make me think along a different path than my spirit wants me to walk &amp; the more points of view then the better my view will become.But you know I will always be a sensitive romantic spirit wanting all to breath free &amp; follow the way they want to go.You help me though to look @ different facets of the crystal.Now I so see where Ron &amp; David Miscavige trapped each other.Thank you. XO Ann B.</p>
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		By: Roger Hornaday		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91268&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

I greatly enjoyed reading your comment and can&#039;t resist adding my two farthings.  Any cosmology, for it to make sense, must have the &quot;central creating agent&quot;. Typically that is called, &quot;God&quot;. The cosmology of empirical science is a work in progress and it is seeking that agent via a &quot;unified theory&quot;.  Hubbard&#039;s cosmology lacks it and therefore the creating agent has to be the individual entity. In order to explain how we individual entities created the universe requires a bogus theory that we once had powers that we have  since LOST and now we need to get them back or else become  inert clumps of matter for all eternity. NOBODY has ever demonstrated any powers that trump the natural laws. OT is a fiction. Also, the idea the universe is the result of a collaborative effort is just plain silly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91268">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>I greatly enjoyed reading your comment and can&#8217;t resist adding my two farthings.  Any cosmology, for it to make sense, must have the &#8220;central creating agent&#8221;. Typically that is called, &#8220;God&#8221;. The cosmology of empirical science is a work in progress and it is seeking that agent via a &#8220;unified theory&#8221;.  Hubbard&#8217;s cosmology lacks it and therefore the creating agent has to be the individual entity. In order to explain how we individual entities created the universe requires a bogus theory that we once had powers that we have  since LOST and now we need to get them back or else become  inert clumps of matter for all eternity. NOBODY has ever demonstrated any powers that trump the natural laws. OT is a fiction. Also, the idea the universe is the result of a collaborative effort is just plain silly.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 16:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91268&quot;&gt;Brian&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Brian, Beautiful post as always.Thank you from my heart.Forever to you both Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91268">Brian</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Brian, Beautiful post as always.Thank you from my heart.Forever to you both Ann B.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91033&quot;&gt;Ann B Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Ann. Always looking for one&#039;s evil to  understand our condition, and doing it forcefully with shame and heavy blame, while calling it &quot;man&#039;s road to freedom&quot; is evil. It really hurts people mentally and emotionally. 

I truly wish that all those hurt in this horrible philosophy of &quot;destroy those that think differently&quot; see the truth of their situation.

When the cosmology is that all we are is eternal individuals and there are big and little beings, life is seen as fragmented with players, pieces and broken pieces.

It is possible that the basic problem with Scientology is in fact this false doctrine of the glorified separate powerful uber ego that can do &quot;special&quot; things. 

Unity or the God dynamic, embracing life as a unified field of consciousness in an eternal relationship of family, and a philosophy that attempts to unifie.

Being that Scientology holds up the individual ego as the highest attainment; the all powerful person who creates his own laws, it is natural for conflict to arise. 

When the recognition of  unity and mutual respect is the philosophy to emulate it gives a better blueprint for sane human interaction. And good reason for kindness to all others.

But Scientology as a philosophy is based on the Us vs. Them model. An old archaic model. And because the Us vs Them model is enforced with justified punishment by &quot;ruin utterly, Scientology has violence against it&#039;s own pieces and broken pieces as a religious doctrine and &quot;religious&quot; imperative. 

Ron was Godless. He only said God was part of Scientology as an 8th dynamic and we don&#039;t talk about it here in Scientology. What ever you want it to be it will be.

Since the Unified Field of all life recognizes a closeness and familial relation to all life, it makes it almost impossible to do any harm. Because we feel the pain in others we are causing, and are aware of our effect on people.

But in Scientology, hate is above sympathy on the tone scale. And if you truly look at Scientology it is possible to sum up Scientology&#039;s problem in this simple statement:

Hate is a higher emotion than Sympathy. 

Sympathy = feeling other&#039;s experience with compassion (relieving suffering)

Hate = Us vs Them ( causing suffering)

This doctrine from Ron is internalized by different psychological profiles. And when you get an ignorant soul like DM, with the taste for cruelty, following the &quot;hate above sympathy&quot; model, you get a fanatic who believes hurting others is necessary to create a sane world. 

When that is agreed to, danger lurks for those caught in the dream.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91033">Ann B Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Ann. Always looking for one&#8217;s evil to  understand our condition, and doing it forcefully with shame and heavy blame, while calling it &#8220;man&#8217;s road to freedom&#8221; is evil. It really hurts people mentally and emotionally. </p>
<p>I truly wish that all those hurt in this horrible philosophy of &#8220;destroy those that think differently&#8221; see the truth of their situation.</p>
<p>When the cosmology is that all we are is eternal individuals and there are big and little beings, life is seen as fragmented with players, pieces and broken pieces.</p>
<p>It is possible that the basic problem with Scientology is in fact this false doctrine of the glorified separate powerful uber ego that can do &#8220;special&#8221; things. </p>
<p>Unity or the God dynamic, embracing life as a unified field of consciousness in an eternal relationship of family, and a philosophy that attempts to unifie.</p>
<p>Being that Scientology holds up the individual ego as the highest attainment; the all powerful person who creates his own laws, it is natural for conflict to arise. </p>
<p>When the recognition of  unity and mutual respect is the philosophy to emulate it gives a better blueprint for sane human interaction. And good reason for kindness to all others.</p>
<p>But Scientology as a philosophy is based on the Us vs. Them model. An old archaic model. And because the Us vs Them model is enforced with justified punishment by &#8220;ruin utterly, Scientology has violence against it&#8217;s own pieces and broken pieces as a religious doctrine and &#8220;religious&#8221; imperative. </p>
<p>Ron was Godless. He only said God was part of Scientology as an 8th dynamic and we don&#8217;t talk about it here in Scientology. What ever you want it to be it will be.</p>
<p>Since the Unified Field of all life recognizes a closeness and familial relation to all life, it makes it almost impossible to do any harm. Because we feel the pain in others we are causing, and are aware of our effect on people.</p>
<p>But in Scientology, hate is above sympathy on the tone scale. And if you truly look at Scientology it is possible to sum up Scientology&#8217;s problem in this simple statement:</p>
<p>Hate is a higher emotion than Sympathy. </p>
<p>Sympathy = feeling other&#8217;s experience with compassion (relieving suffering)</p>
<p>Hate = Us vs Them ( causing suffering)</p>
<p>This doctrine from Ron is internalized by different psychological profiles. And when you get an ignorant soul like DM, with the taste for cruelty, following the &#8220;hate above sympathy&#8221; model, you get a fanatic who believes hurting others is necessary to create a sane world. </p>
<p>When that is agreed to, danger lurks for those caught in the dream.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 00:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91042&quot;&gt;RolandRB&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi RolandRB, I understand your points &#038; welcome them.I am a boomer born 1951, however I do not feel that I was easily conned by Ron &#038; the SO.There is a difference between giving all your $ because one is big hearted &#038; trusting &#038; giving your heart &#038; soul because you really really believed The SO was what you had once lost &#038; found again.When I gave $21,000 when I joined in 74 I really thought it was for the good &#038; I helped a few members complete auditing &#038; training with out thinking of myself first.Believe me if I was as gullible as you imply, today I would be able to give mucho bucks for all matter of services.But that will never happen because I got out.One last point cancer did catch up with me &#038; partly caused by working all night for months @ Asho F &#038; most possibly asbestos exposure from scrubbing pipes &#038; work on the ships.I would not wish my cancer experience on anyone, not even those still in or big $ donors.Yes my cancer walk is my responsibility bot be kind to me I don&#039;t want to walk all alone or be chastised for the pain &#038; suffering that happened to me @ the hands of the GOI. Take Care Ann B.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91042">RolandRB</a>.</p>
<p>Hi RolandRB, I understand your points &amp; welcome them.I am a boomer born 1951, however I do not feel that I was easily conned by Ron &amp; the SO.There is a difference between giving all your $ because one is big hearted &amp; trusting &amp; giving your heart &amp; soul because you really really believed The SO was what you had once lost &amp; found again.When I gave $21,000 when I joined in 74 I really thought it was for the good &amp; I helped a few members complete auditing &amp; training with out thinking of myself first.Believe me if I was as gullible as you imply, today I would be able to give mucho bucks for all matter of services.But that will never happen because I got out.One last point cancer did catch up with me &amp; partly caused by working all night for months @ Asho F &amp; most possibly asbestos exposure from scrubbing pipes &amp; work on the ships.I would not wish my cancer experience on anyone, not even those still in or big $ donors.Yes my cancer walk is my responsibility bot be kind to me I don&#8217;t want to walk all alone or be chastised for the pain &amp; suffering that happened to me @ the hands of the GOI. Take Care Ann B.</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 00:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91049&quot;&gt;DollarMorgue&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi DollarMorgue, I like your post,even though I was not around for David Miscavige posts like yours give me much insight.Thank you.Ann B.]]></description>
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<p>Hi DollarMorgue, I like your post,even though I was not around for David Miscavige posts like yours give me much insight.Thank you.Ann B.</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91003&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Not really Lisa.  There has been nothing of a criminal nature that a prosecutor could &quot;sink their teeth into&quot;.  That is the reason no crim prosecution.  The IRS has a small case (total owning dollars wise) possible against DM.  There are plenty of other public people who owe FAR more in back taxes that they don&#039;t go after.]]></description>
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<p>Not really Lisa.  There has been nothing of a criminal nature that a prosecutor could &#8220;sink their teeth into&#8221;.  That is the reason no crim prosecution.  The IRS has a small case (total owning dollars wise) possible against DM.  There are plenty of other public people who owe FAR more in back taxes that they don&#8217;t go after.</p>
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		By: Old Surfer Dude		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 17:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91003&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

There you go, Lisa!  Think scientology is actually a religion.  If you look up the word cult, it will have (or at least should have) scientology as the definition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91003">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>There you go, Lisa!  Think scientology is actually a religion.  If you look up the word cult, it will have (or at least should have) scientology as the definition.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91051&quot;&gt;RolandRB&lt;/a&gt;.

For what it&#039;s worth I think you and Aquamarine hit the nail on the head. This is the big haul of loot Miscavige needs to escape to a Mexican villa patrolled by armed security. He will see assassins everywhere and be afraid to leave his compound.  Meanwhile the fools who didn&#039;t see it coming will be making such a stinking little fuss until they are drowned out by a tsunami of  &quot;I told you so&#039;s&quot;.  This is the year to go &quot;ALL IN!&quot; because going &quot;all in&quot; isn&#039;t something a person can do twice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-2/#comment-91051">RolandRB</a>.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth I think you and Aquamarine hit the nail on the head. This is the big haul of loot Miscavige needs to escape to a Mexican villa patrolled by armed security. He will see assassins everywhere and be afraid to leave his compound.  Meanwhile the fools who didn&#8217;t see it coming will be making such a stinking little fuss until they are drowned out by a tsunami of  &#8220;I told you so&#8217;s&#8221;.  This is the year to go &#8220;ALL IN!&#8221; because going &#8220;all in&#8221; isn&#8217;t something a person can do twice.</p>
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