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		By: Komodo Dragon		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-290267</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Komodo Dragon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289807&quot;&gt;Xenu&#039;s Son&lt;/a&gt;.

And didn&#039;t he also have an Oscar made for himself, since he was so &quot;blatantly &quot; overlooked by the Academy.  How dare those wogs refuse to see his brilliance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289807">Xenu&#8217;s Son</a>.</p>
<p>And didn&#8217;t he also have an Oscar made for himself, since he was so &#8220;blatantly &#8221; overlooked by the Academy.  How dare those wogs refuse to see his brilliance.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289934&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

MB, I think that &quot;split mind&quot; may also explain how Hubbard could talk about control mechanisms, but then go on to use them himself on his audience and followers, as discussed in a thread on the Scientology Mindset topic.

It&#039;s a least a model that provides a way to understand one of the most baffling aspects of such leaders, and one of the ones that often fools people - such as how they can speak theoretically about freeing followers, and yet actually work to enslave them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289934">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>MB, I think that &#8220;split mind&#8221; may also explain how Hubbard could talk about control mechanisms, but then go on to use them himself on his audience and followers, as discussed in a thread on the Scientology Mindset topic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a least a model that provides a way to understand one of the most baffling aspects of such leaders, and one of the ones that often fools people &#8211; such as how they can speak theoretically about freeing followers, and yet actually work to enslave them.</p>
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		By: Peabody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peabody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-290115&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Kat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-290115">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Kat</p>
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		By: Kat LaRue		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat LaRue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 22:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289970&quot;&gt;Xenu&#039;s Son&lt;/a&gt;.

I’m just glad you got out. Everyone who has shared their story is so much stronger than me.  Everyone who has faced disconnection and the harassment from the cult is beyond brave and all kudos should rightly go to them-  as well as to those who are still hurting and unable to share.  This blog is just one of the places where people share stories, and my actions- as well as the actions of anyone who has worked to stop them are due to everyone who has had the courage to leave.  Without you all, there would be no knowledge of the abuses. I am humbly thankful that you have all accepted the never ins who cannot possibly truly understand all that you have been through. The billboard is for all of you. I just wish I could do more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289970">Xenu&#8217;s Son</a>.</p>
<p>I’m just glad you got out. Everyone who has shared their story is so much stronger than me.  Everyone who has faced disconnection and the harassment from the cult is beyond brave and all kudos should rightly go to them-  as well as to those who are still hurting and unable to share.  This blog is just one of the places where people share stories, and my actions- as well as the actions of anyone who has worked to stop them are due to everyone who has had the courage to leave.  Without you all, there would be no knowledge of the abuses. I am humbly thankful that you have all accepted the never ins who cannot possibly truly understand all that you have been through. The billboard is for all of you. I just wish I could do more.</p>
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		By: James Rosso		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Rosso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 21:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289844&quot;&gt;Cavalier&lt;/a&gt;.

I enjoyed the Battlefield Earth book.  It&#039;s basically a Gary Stu story.  It was a shame the movie kept almost nothing of the book, but as it&#039;s set up, you&#039;d need a TV series to do it justice.

And the way Johnny figured out how the Psychlos control the secret of teleportation - and therefore their empire - was really clever (as was how the secret itself), and likely only possible in this specific scenario which is why it was never done before.  I appreciated those ideas LRH came up with (yes, i&#039;m talking about the self-wiping control panel of misdirection).  I&#039;m not running any science fiction type roleplaying games at the moment, but if i do in the future, i&#039;ll probably incorporate it.

And last time i read it, i only noticed five places where the author inserted his opinions into the mouths of characters - a stone age villager isn&#039;t going to have an opinion on taxation policy no matter how much knowledge is beamed into his head, for example.  A little distracting but you can gloss over those.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289844">Cavalier</a>.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the Battlefield Earth book.  It&#8217;s basically a Gary Stu story.  It was a shame the movie kept almost nothing of the book, but as it&#8217;s set up, you&#8217;d need a TV series to do it justice.</p>
<p>And the way Johnny figured out how the Psychlos control the secret of teleportation &#8211; and therefore their empire &#8211; was really clever (as was how the secret itself), and likely only possible in this specific scenario which is why it was never done before.  I appreciated those ideas LRH came up with (yes, i&#8217;m talking about the self-wiping control panel of misdirection).  I&#8217;m not running any science fiction type roleplaying games at the moment, but if i do in the future, i&#8217;ll probably incorporate it.</p>
<p>And last time i read it, i only noticed five places where the author inserted his opinions into the mouths of characters &#8211; a stone age villager isn&#8217;t going to have an opinion on taxation policy no matter how much knowledge is beamed into his head, for example.  A little distracting but you can gloss over those.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 19:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289934&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, what a surprise about Soltan Gris.  I thought Soltan Gris was Danny Masterson in a former lifetime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289934">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, what a surprise about Soltan Gris.  I thought Soltan Gris was Danny Masterson in a former lifetime.</p>
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		By: Peabody		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peabody]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 14:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289927&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

He did talk about the scramble which ensues when two or more thetans are trying to take over a newborn. I imagine the scenario would be similar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289927">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>He did talk about the scramble which ensues when two or more thetans are trying to take over a newborn. I imagine the scenario would be similar.</p>
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		By: Xenu's Son		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xenu's Son]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 08:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289869&quot;&gt;Kat LaRue&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Kat,
Am trying to imagine what the proverbial RB couple in their car would say driving by this billboard.
Not easy anymore since my Scientology logic has taken a severe beating living in the real world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289869">Kat LaRue</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Kat,<br />
Am trying to imagine what the proverbial RB couple in their car would say driving by this billboard.<br />
Not easy anymore since my Scientology logic has taken a severe beating living in the real world.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 03:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I actually read the entire Mission Earth series.

I think Hubbard showed us his two sides here. He PRETENDED to be Jettero Heller, a perfect being of impeccable character and infallible intellect, miles above all lesser beings and irresistible to woman. A man who could out think out fight and out anything any other man.

Deep down Hubbard knew it was a fraud in another part of his mind. Robert Jay Lifton described in two superb interviews with Bill Moyers ( both available free online, one right after September 11th occurred and the other more recently) how a guru or cult leader can have a split or fractured mind that has parts dissociated so strongly that the guru can believe his lies in one part but with another know they are lies and know to hide evidence of this from his followers and law enforcement for example. 

Hubbard was really Soltan Gris, the degenerate drug addict and rapist and coward and he hated it and despised the truth and despised the world that reminded him of this terrible truth.

I wrote on his condition in the post Scientology&#039;s Parallel In Nature: Malignant Narcissism

http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/05/scientolgys-parallel-in-nature_3.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually read the entire Mission Earth series.</p>
<p>I think Hubbard showed us his two sides here. He PRETENDED to be Jettero Heller, a perfect being of impeccable character and infallible intellect, miles above all lesser beings and irresistible to woman. A man who could out think out fight and out anything any other man.</p>
<p>Deep down Hubbard knew it was a fraud in another part of his mind. Robert Jay Lifton described in two superb interviews with Bill Moyers ( both available free online, one right after September 11th occurred and the other more recently) how a guru or cult leader can have a split or fractured mind that has parts dissociated so strongly that the guru can believe his lies in one part but with another know they are lies and know to hide evidence of this from his followers and law enforcement for example. </p>
<p>Hubbard was really Soltan Gris, the degenerate drug addict and rapist and coward and he hated it and despised the truth and despised the world that reminded him of this terrible truth.</p>
<p>I wrote on his condition in the post Scientology&#8217;s Parallel In Nature: Malignant Narcissism</p>
<p><a href="http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/05/scientolgys-parallel-in-nature_3.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/05/scientolgys-parallel-in-nature_3.html</a></p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cece]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2019 02:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289863&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

LRH didn&#039;t go that far.
I didn&#039;t ask a lot of questions I suppose because it wasnt important at the time and LRH was probably dead by then.  It was on the tape called Role of Earth ifrc.
I&#039;ve yet to see a copy turn up online and the cult doesn&#039;t publish it anymore of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-207/#comment-289863">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>LRH didn&#8217;t go that far.<br />
I didn&#8217;t ask a lot of questions I suppose because it wasnt important at the time and LRH was probably dead by then.  It was on the tape called Role of Earth ifrc.<br />
I&#8217;ve yet to see a copy turn up online and the cult doesn&#8217;t publish it anymore of course.</p>
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