PeaceMaker – My participation was 1975-1982. Back then Dianetic auditing came before grades auditing. I was an interned Dianetic auditor which also qualified me to do other introductory auditing like self analysis lists.

I only worked on staff for about a year and a half and maybe I audited 15 or 20 people, staff and public, and it was all smooth sailing. Maybe or probably the overall intention was to create blind followers but auditing wasn’t an “Inquisition”.

Wynski – I’ll take your word for it. My ego is crushed – I thought I was *special*!

(joke)

Richard, as an auditor did you prevent PCs from leaving the room if they wanted to – as is specifically part of the job when Hubbard’s rules deem it necessary – or anything else that bothered you then, or now? I’m interested to know what your experience was in that regard.

I do get that it seemed to you like helping people at the time, and that in a couple of years at a mission the bigger picture and long-term consequences might not have been obvious.

And I suspect that Miscavige has de-emphasized auditing because it’s no longer possible to sweep the cases of psychosis, suicide and murder under the rug, the way it was in Hubbard’s day. The Lisa McPherson case, with all the media attention, and a couple of other sensational cases, I think forced him to cut back on processes with inherent dangers, just as the abreaction therapy that inspired Hubbard had to be abandoned once its long-term consequences were fully understood.

Did you handle or know of any cases of people who got worse or went psychotic, or of scientologists who harmed themselves or others?

I actually personally knew some of the people involved in infamous cases of Scientology suicide and murder, including a “reverend” and “OT.”

Besides the long, multi-part ESMB thread How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?, there are two newer ones to which people have been adding recently:

A story of Disconnection, neglect and suicide in scientology
https://exscn.net/forum/threads/a-story-of-disconnection-neglect-and-suicide-in-scientology.43112/

“Long strings of psychotics”
https://exscn.net/forum/threads/long-strings-of-psychotics.50561/

This also ties in to Brian’s new piece, where he writes about how an auditor can forcefully implant a PC, when following Hubbard’s processes. That sort of manipulation of the mind and psyche can lead to unintended, and adverse, consequences.

“I’m picturing Miscavige stuck in a little boat with a little oar.”

And then, he throws the paddle away for being CI…

Actually Richard, back when Elcon controlled he “lauded” those who reg’ed money FAR more than he did auditors. Next was management and way down were auditors. Yes, he paid lip service to auditors but the REAL tangible rewards were given out as I wrote above.

All part of his con to get people to deliver his scam basically for free.

Hubbard knew that Western man likes to get shit done and wouldn’t be satisfied with sitting around in serenity. He put zing in the thing by promising super powerz and being able to do cool stuff like exteriorizing and blowing up planets.

End of itsa

Nondualism and some branches of Zen Buddhism give credence to “instant enlightenment”. Some happenstance occurs or you wake up one morning enlightened. “I” is a ” timeless observer ” watching the never ending now go by with no projections into the future or attention on the past. It might take years to fully adjust to that state of awareness, so they say.

The org promotion lauds donors and status as much or more than “progress on the bridge”. DM pulled a slick trick.

As an auditor in the old days I always thought I was doing good for the “preclear”. Elron always lauded auditors. Maybe these days whoever makes the most money gets lauded the most.

Really good point.

Also auditors are too stupid to ask themselves what criminal acts they do. They are proud to be not reasonable.

And push their stuff and hypnosis directly into the pc s head. No heart, directly into the head of the paying cultist to become a Miscavige hubbards zombie.

Funny or sad?