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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314584&quot;&gt;ammoalamo@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for looking it up,  ammoalamo:
&quot;Currently it is 40 quarters, each with $2500 income, i.e. $10k per year for 10 years.&quot;

I THOUGHT  I&#039;d seen something like that, but my memory ain&#039;t what it was.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314584">ammoalamo@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for looking it up,  ammoalamo:<br />
&#8220;Currently it is 40 quarters, each with $2500 income, i.e. $10k per year for 10 years.&#8221;</p>
<p>I THOUGHT  I&#8217;d seen something like that, but my memory ain&#8217;t what it was.</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314556&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;NOW you tell me.&quot;

Funny, but I&#039;ve seen the SS payment schedule, which was based upon reported SSI pay-ins.  It&#039;s true that non-payers can get *Disability* payments without much/any pay-in, but I&#039;m not sure Heber or ANYone in the Hole could get the required documentation together to file for it.  My wife filed for mine and almost gave up due to the red tape, and that was WITHOUT scientology throwing up roadblocks preventing the &quot;downstat&quot; from getting &quot;welfare&quot;(Payment/reward for doing nothing, a scn &quot;no-no&quot;). I doubt anyone in The Hole could get out for the required Doctor&#039;s exams &#038; other documentation, for instance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314556">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;NOW you tell me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny, but I&#8217;ve seen the SS payment schedule, which was based upon reported SSI pay-ins.  It&#8217;s true that non-payers can get *Disability* payments without much/any pay-in, but I&#8217;m not sure Heber or ANYone in the Hole could get the required documentation together to file for it.  My wife filed for mine and almost gave up due to the red tape, and that was WITHOUT scientology throwing up roadblocks preventing the &#8220;downstat&#8221; from getting &#8220;welfare&#8221;(Payment/reward for doing nothing, a scn &#8220;no-no&#8221;). I doubt anyone in The Hole could get out for the required Doctor&#8217;s exams &amp; other documentation, for instance.</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314381&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski, there&#039;d only be jail time if Dwarfenführer® were personally connected to some wrongdoing WRT Heber&#039;S SS payments and that&#039;s not gonna happen to the twit.  Some innocent staff member would take the fall first, insulating Davey-Boy.  And what would Heber be able to DO with SS payments, anyway?  Buy yet more copies of the Basics<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314381">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski, there&#8217;d only be jail time if Dwarfenführer® were personally connected to some wrongdoing WRT Heber&#8217;S SS payments and that&#8217;s not gonna happen to the twit.  Some innocent staff member would take the fall first, insulating Davey-Boy.  And what would Heber be able to DO with SS payments, anyway?  Buy yet more copies of the Basics™?</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-315141</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314556&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Right, Ms. B. Haven.  Dwarfenführer® won&#039;t willingly EVER mention Heber again.  There&#039;s nothing but downside in every possible scenario I can envision. In most of them, Davey gets charged with his crimes against Heber —as a starting point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314556">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Right, Ms. B. Haven.  Dwarfenführer® won&#8217;t willingly EVER mention Heber again.  There&#8217;s nothing but downside in every possible scenario I can envision. In most of them, Davey gets charged with his crimes against Heber —as a starting point.</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-315140</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314081&quot;&gt;RoseMarie&lt;/a&gt;.

RoseMarie,

They&#039;re either RPFed or otherwise &quot;disappeared&quot; and made toothless when Dwarfenführer takes it in his mind to punish SOMEone for some or no reason and some unfortunate soul crosses &quot;The Kid&#039;s&quot; path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314081">RoseMarie</a>.</p>
<p>RoseMarie,</p>
<p>They&#8217;re either RPFed or otherwise &#8220;disappeared&#8221; and made toothless when Dwarfenführer takes it in his mind to punish SOMEone for some or no reason and some unfortunate soul crosses &#8220;The Kid&#8217;s&#8221; path.</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-315139</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314090&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

otherles:
No one has to DO anything to piss off the petite punching pope of that international criminal organization masquerading as a &quot;church&quot;.  All you need to do is be in his line of sight at the wrong moment and you&#039;re in deep do-do, deader than the dodo.Even his WIFE and second-in-command wasn&#039;t immune. When he did him a FAVOR and cleaned up a couple of tasks he&#039;d been bitching and moaning about, she got sentenced to a &quot;Siberia&quot; and has been sighted only a couple of times since; I expect  she might languish there for the rest of his life -- or hers; whichever is longer. The Dwarfenführer never forgives, never forgets his anger over any imagined slight. That&#039;s why I don&#039;t expect to see Heber to ever see the light of day. He&#039;ll never be given a chance to be seen in his current condition; CERTAINLY won&#039;t ever get a chance to escape and possibly bring a damning suit against 
&quot;the Kid&quot;. Heber can ABSOLUTELY destroy Davey if he&#039;s given any chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314090">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>otherles:<br />
No one has to DO anything to piss off the petite punching pope of that international criminal organization masquerading as a &#8220;church&#8221;.  All you need to do is be in his line of sight at the wrong moment and you&#8217;re in deep do-do, deader than the dodo.Even his WIFE and second-in-command wasn&#8217;t immune. When he did him a FAVOR and cleaned up a couple of tasks he&#8217;d been bitching and moaning about, she got sentenced to a &#8220;Siberia&#8221; and has been sighted only a couple of times since; I expect  she might languish there for the rest of his life &#8212; or hers; whichever is longer. The Dwarfenführer never forgives, never forgets his anger over any imagined slight. That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t expect to see Heber to ever see the light of day. He&#8217;ll never be given a chance to be seen in his current condition; CERTAINLY won&#8217;t ever get a chance to escape and possibly bring a damning suit against<br />
&#8220;the Kid&#8221;. Heber can ABSOLUTELY destroy Davey if he&#8217;s given any chance.</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-315133</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314564&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Alcoboy, there&#039;s no way two RPFers could talk like that.  &quot;No case on post&quot;, at a minimum, would give them additional immediate punishments.  &quot;No talking about your case&quot; or &quot;no verbal tech&quot; would also obtain punishments .  &quot;No talking&quot;, no &quot;comparing notes&quot; was rigidly enforced as allowing the inmates to honestly discuss their lives would have blown Tubby&#039;s scam apart at the seams.  Not discussing scn was so enforced in so many ways, it was rigidly enforced by us peons, similar to not reading any &quot;entheta&quot;, literally failing to see anything which MIGHT reflect badly on the cult or its leaders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314564">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Alcoboy, there&#8217;s no way two RPFers could talk like that.  &#8220;No case on post&#8221;, at a minimum, would give them additional immediate punishments.  &#8220;No talking about your case&#8221; or &#8220;no verbal tech&#8221; would also obtain punishments .  &#8220;No talking&#8221;, no &#8220;comparing notes&#8221; was rigidly enforced as allowing the inmates to honestly discuss their lives would have blown Tubby&#8217;s scam apart at the seams.  Not discussing scn was so enforced in so many ways, it was rigidly enforced by us peons, similar to not reading any &#8220;entheta&#8221;, literally failing to see anything which MIGHT reflect badly on the cult or its leaders.</p>
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		By: jere lull ( 39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-315129</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314492&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski:
 Sadly,  those sentenced to the RPF are convinced by TPTB that they DESERVE the RPF, that it&#039;s their only chance to &quot;straighten up and fly right&quot;, that it&#039;s a great OPPORTUNITY for them to advance from their current degraded position.  Using every scrap of dirt they have on you, they convince you that you&#039;re lower than pond scum, lower than snake droppings, a DB who needs _extremely_ tight 8-C* before you can operate at all in the world outside of the RPF.  If they didn&#039;t convince all the inmates of that first and foremost, they would have had revolutions and whole RPFs blowing because of the irrationality of it all.  *[8-C is another of the endless &quot;objective&quot; processes which accustoms the PC (and *auditor*) to doing exactly the same meaningless actions  over and over until both are inured to their inevitable fates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314492">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski:<br />
 Sadly,  those sentenced to the RPF are convinced by TPTB that they DESERVE the RPF, that it&#8217;s their only chance to &#8220;straighten up and fly right&#8221;, that it&#8217;s a great OPPORTUNITY for them to advance from their current degraded position.  Using every scrap of dirt they have on you, they convince you that you&#8217;re lower than pond scum, lower than snake droppings, a DB who needs _extremely_ tight 8-C* before you can operate at all in the world outside of the RPF.  If they didn&#8217;t convince all the inmates of that first and foremost, they would have had revolutions and whole RPFs blowing because of the irrationality of it all.  *[8-C is another of the endless &#8220;objective&#8221; processes which accustoms the PC (and *auditor*) to doing exactly the same meaningless actions  over and over until both are inured to their inevitable fates.</p>
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		By: ammoalamo@gmail.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2019 02:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314381&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Check the SS site to determine current minimum needed to pay in before qualifying for retirement benefits. Currently it is 40 quarters, each with $2500 income, i.e. $10k per year for 10 years.
Even a modest lifetime income can result in  $1000 monthly benefits.  SS will help calculate future benefits.
 However, COS pay of $20 - $50 per week does not come close to qualifying for any benefits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314381">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Check the SS site to determine current minimum needed to pay in before qualifying for retirement benefits. Currently it is 40 quarters, each with $2500 income, i.e. $10k per year for 10 years.<br />
Even a modest lifetime income can result in  $1000 monthly benefits.  SS will help calculate future benefits.<br />
 However, COS pay of $20 &#8211; $50 per week does not come close to qualifying for any benefits.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314147&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, man! They sent &#039;new guy&#039; to the RPF! That&#039;s the dude that joined the Sea Org then kept getting ignored by the two more senior females!
At least he&#039;s got that other dude to guide him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-224/#comment-314147">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, man! They sent &#8216;new guy&#8217; to the RPF! That&#8217;s the dude that joined the Sea Org then kept getting ignored by the two more senior females!<br />
At least he&#8217;s got that other dude to guide him.</p>
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