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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320566</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[That was a good manager you had, jere.  Highly effective.  As a manager its always all around better when people WANT to work, when they pace themselves push themselves to get their jobs done, not out of fear of you but because they actually like, trust and respect you and have a grounded reality in how THEM doing well benefits THEM and you.  Hovering over people, nagging them, threatening them - all this has plantation-slavery overtones.  You can drive people that way and get work out of them,  and they may defer to you and be very sweet and nice to your face because, well, you sign their checks and they need you.  But do they really respect you?  Not if you frequently lack impulse control.  Not if you don&#039;t set an example by treating them fairly and decently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a good manager you had, jere.  Highly effective.  As a manager its always all around better when people WANT to work, when they pace themselves push themselves to get their jobs done, not out of fear of you but because they actually like, trust and respect you and have a grounded reality in how THEM doing well benefits THEM and you.  Hovering over people, nagging them, threatening them &#8211; all this has plantation-slavery overtones.  You can drive people that way and get work out of them,  and they may defer to you and be very sweet and nice to your face because, well, you sign their checks and they need you.  But do they really respect you?  Not if you frequently lack impulse control.  Not if you don&#8217;t set an example by treating them fairly and decently.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320522</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319321&quot;&gt;Richard&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard asked:&quot;Did L. Ron Hubbard really believe he had been the Buddha in a past life or was that just another one one his tall tales?&quot;

AFAICT,  the answer is a definitive &quot;Yes.&quot; 
    It was a tall tale AND he wanted to believe it with all his might.  OR, at least he absolutely wanted the clapping seals to believe it .
It&#039;s a shame he couldn&#039;t have actually studied it and learned something. At best, his &quot;understanding&quot; of things like science and religion were at the level of a child who only overheard what his prejudiced and bigoted parents said about the subjects to each other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319321">Richard</a>.</p>
<p>Richard asked:&#8221;Did L. Ron Hubbard really believe he had been the Buddha in a past life or was that just another one one his tall tales?&#8221;</p>
<p>AFAICT,  the answer is a definitive &#8220;Yes.&#8221;<br />
    It was a tall tale AND he wanted to believe it with all his might.  OR, at least he absolutely wanted the clapping seals to believe it .<br />
It&#8217;s a shame he couldn&#8217;t have actually studied it and learned something. At best, his &#8220;understanding&#8221; of things like science and religion were at the level of a child who only overheard what his prejudiced and bigoted parents said about the subjects to each other.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320519&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops! Should have specified it was FOOLproof who I was referring to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320519">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>Oops! Should have specified it was FOOLproof who I was referring to.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319318&quot;&gt;Ms. B. Haven&lt;/a&gt;.

He got BANNED from the site?  Surely not! He was the comic relief, the court jester.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319318">Ms. B. Haven</a>.</p>
<p>He got BANNED from the site?  Surely not! He was the comic relief, the court jester.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319335&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice one, Aqua.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319335">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Nice one, Aqua.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319255&quot;&gt;Peter Blood&lt;/a&gt;.

Peter. from your keyboard directly to xenu&#039;s screen.

I concur:&quot;2020 might be the Year of Unprecedented Collapse at best for $cientology. Let’s hope so. Let the implosion begin!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319255">Peter Blood</a>.</p>
<p>Peter. from your keyboard directly to xenu&#8217;s screen.</p>
<p>I concur:&#8221;2020 might be the Year of Unprecedented Collapse at best for $cientology. Let’s hope so. Let the implosion begin!&#8221;</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320516</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319263&quot;&gt;Zee Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

zee moo quipped:&quot;Can organizational collapse be near? Nah, just my postulates getting out of hand, again.&quot;

As far as I can see, scientology collapsed YEARS ago, if no right in the beginning, as he was trying to recover from the dianetics fad fading into obscurity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319263">Zee Moo</a>.</p>
<p>zee moo quipped:&#8221;Can organizational collapse be near? Nah, just my postulates getting out of hand, again.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as I can see, scientology collapsed YEARS ago, if no right in the beginning, as he was trying to recover from the dianetics fad fading into obscurity.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319423&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

What  WAS it with Tubby and overts?  Somehow, he traced everything substandard to them. Of course, he couldn&#039;t/wouldn&#039;t &quot;see&quot; that everything he &#039;produced&#039; WRT scn was an overt, so he of COURSE  pulled all that bad stuff in over the years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319423">Rip Van Winkle</a>.</p>
<p>What  WAS it with Tubby and overts?  Somehow, he traced everything substandard to them. Of course, he couldn&#8217;t/wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;see&#8221; that everything he &#8216;produced&#8217; WRT scn was an overt, so he of COURSE  pulled all that bad stuff in over the years.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320511&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

BTW, even with spending less time filing, I got more actual work done.  Some of the worst places I worked for, the ones which accomplished less with more people, demanded extra hours to try to fill the gaps between what could be completed satisfactorily and what the *chiefs* wanted done.  In each case, the companies or divisions failed since. Most of the time, the problems were &#039;Managers&#039; changing their minds mid-task, requiring us &#039;indians&#039; to do the programming and debugging two or more times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-320511">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>BTW, even with spending less time filing, I got more actual work done.  Some of the worst places I worked for, the ones which accomplished less with more people, demanded extra hours to try to fill the gaps between what could be completed satisfactorily and what the *chiefs* wanted done.  In each case, the companies or divisions failed since. Most of the time, the problems were &#8216;Managers&#8217; changing their minds mid-task, requiring us &#8216;indians&#8217; to do the programming and debugging two or more times.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jan 2020 12:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319295&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I worked for a forward-thinking company which rolled all vacation/holiday/sick/birthday /mental-health time into one big &quot;Choice time&quot; reservoir, usable in 4-hour chunks and the Managers  worked to ensure we (particularly *me*) used it each year.  I&#039;ve since heard it called &quot;flex-time&quot; in the HR universe and it&#039;s been shown to decrease absenteeism.  Allowed us to balance work and home obligations.  Each sailing season, no one expected me to be around after Lunch on Friday until Monday, so  Pat and I had mini-vacations every weekend of that 6 month &quot;season&quot;. As high-pressure as the work was, my co-workers were generally pretty &quot;chill&quot; as a result. And that contributed to high productivity. We rarely spent much time getting all up in each other&#039;s faces.  

Even At Flag, I ran into an enlightened Superior who stopped me working 16-hour days, 7 days a week. Forced me to a 40-hour workweek WITH &quot;personal enhancement&quot; time (course work &#038; auditing) which was a vacation of sorts to me. Helped keep me saner, longer.  
Lovely Hana.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-228/#comment-319295">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I worked for a forward-thinking company which rolled all vacation/holiday/sick/birthday /mental-health time into one big &#8220;Choice time&#8221; reservoir, usable in 4-hour chunks and the Managers  worked to ensure we (particularly *me*) used it each year.  I&#8217;ve since heard it called &#8220;flex-time&#8221; in the HR universe and it&#8217;s been shown to decrease absenteeism.  Allowed us to balance work and home obligations.  Each sailing season, no one expected me to be around after Lunch on Friday until Monday, so  Pat and I had mini-vacations every weekend of that 6 month &#8220;season&#8221;. As high-pressure as the work was, my co-workers were generally pretty &#8220;chill&#8221; as a result. And that contributed to high productivity. We rarely spent much time getting all up in each other&#8217;s faces.  </p>
<p>Even At Flag, I ran into an enlightened Superior who stopped me working 16-hour days, 7 days a week. Forced me to a 40-hour workweek WITH &#8220;personal enhancement&#8221; time (course work &amp; auditing) which was a vacation of sorts to me. Helped keep me saner, longer.<br />
Lovely Hana.</p>
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