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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-324691</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2020 22:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323653&quot;&gt;Imaberrated&lt;/a&gt;.

Imaberrated, that&#039;s amazing - more staff than students then, indeed.  Though from what we&#039;ve been hearing, it seems about right when you put it all together. 

Next, one wonders what all the staff do - though we get hints of all the sort of busy work and make-work, internal training and policing the membership, and so on.  But still not enough to keep the central files up to date, obviously!

I&#039;m still curious how many total active members there were in the org&#039;s &quot;field,&quot; who say showed up for more than one or two big events a year.  From both inside information and counting heads in photos, it seems like it was typically 50 to 60 a few years ago, and now down to 35 to 50, with about double those numbers who might come for the New Year&#039;s event or Hubbard&#039;s birthday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323653">Imaberrated</a>.</p>
<p>Imaberrated, that&#8217;s amazing &#8211; more staff than students then, indeed.  Though from what we&#8217;ve been hearing, it seems about right when you put it all together. </p>
<p>Next, one wonders what all the staff do &#8211; though we get hints of all the sort of busy work and make-work, internal training and policing the membership, and so on.  But still not enough to keep the central files up to date, obviously!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still curious how many total active members there were in the org&#8217;s &#8220;field,&#8221; who say showed up for more than one or two big events a year.  From both inside information and counting heads in photos, it seems like it was typically 50 to 60 a few years ago, and now down to 35 to 50, with about double those numbers who might come for the New Year&#8217;s event or Hubbard&#8217;s birthday.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323624&quot;&gt;Gordon Weir&lt;/a&gt;.

Gordon, thanks for the recons.  I&#039;m amazed that St. Louis still has enough staff who have their own cars and day students, for there to be 17 cars in the parking lot at 11 am.  

I think from reports we&#039;ve been given the impression that orgs often only have 1 or 2 students on course except perhaps on weekends, but the situation may be a bit more complex even at a SFO (small and failing org) like St. Louis.  

Do any of those with inside knowledge of the org, or similar orgs, have an explanation for how to read a car count like that?

And thanks in particular for your diligence in checking in the morning to verify that cars aren&#039;t just left in the lot overnight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323624">Gordon Weir</a>.</p>
<p>Gordon, thanks for the recons.  I&#8217;m amazed that St. Louis still has enough staff who have their own cars and day students, for there to be 17 cars in the parking lot at 11 am.  </p>
<p>I think from reports we&#8217;ve been given the impression that orgs often only have 1 or 2 students on course except perhaps on weekends, but the situation may be a bit more complex even at a SFO (small and failing org) like St. Louis.  </p>
<p>Do any of those with inside knowledge of the org, or similar orgs, have an explanation for how to read a car count like that?</p>
<p>And thanks in particular for your diligence in checking in the morning to verify that cars aren&#8217;t just left in the lot overnight.</p>
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		By: Gordon Weir		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323780&quot;&gt;Theetie Wheetie&lt;/a&gt;.

Theetie, you inspired me so I drove by this morning a little before 8:00 and the parking lot was empty other than the VM van and a van next to it that apparently is in need of repair. There were a couple of lights on in the building. Yesterday there was a car with an Iowa license plate in the parking lot. The Aftermath show really captured my interest and then getting Roku has allowed me to watch extensive programs/blogs exposing $ci. I did read Messiah or Madman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323780">Theetie Wheetie</a>.</p>
<p>Theetie, you inspired me so I drove by this morning a little before 8:00 and the parking lot was empty other than the VM van and a van next to it that apparently is in need of repair. There were a couple of lights on in the building. Yesterday there was a car with an Iowa license plate in the parking lot. The Aftermath show really captured my interest and then getting Roku has allowed me to watch extensive programs/blogs exposing $ci. I did read Messiah or Madman.</p>
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		By: Theetie Wheetie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 13:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323624&quot;&gt;Gordon Weir&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Gordon.  Glad to hear your parents were not harassed.  The same skeleton crew in St Louis will keep the doors open due to a few family members who have money.  Two whales who keep St Louis Org&#039;s building open are Dr William and JoAnn Kathrein, husband and wife Dentists from Omaha Nebraska.  JoAnn is a long time cult member whose children were born in Scientology.  JoAnn Kathrein keeps Amy Hanses going up the Bridge and working on staff.   She went Clear and did L 11 and may be on her OT levels.  No way she could do that with her slave labor wages.    Her mother is most likely paying for everything.  Amy&#039;s husband is  Matt Hanses and works as ED with Chad Lane.    My friend is going to do some investigative work there in St Louis.  If you can do it too, that would be great.  It is fun to infiltrate an Org and report back to the world just how empty the Orgs are.   Take a small course and use a hidden camera.   You can film the tricks the Staff  use to manipulate and trap people into Scientology.   Specifically, the love bombing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323624">Gordon Weir</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Gordon.  Glad to hear your parents were not harassed.  The same skeleton crew in St Louis will keep the doors open due to a few family members who have money.  Two whales who keep St Louis Org&#8217;s building open are Dr William and JoAnn Kathrein, husband and wife Dentists from Omaha Nebraska.  JoAnn is a long time cult member whose children were born in Scientology.  JoAnn Kathrein keeps Amy Hanses going up the Bridge and working on staff.   She went Clear and did L 11 and may be on her OT levels.  No way she could do that with her slave labor wages.    Her mother is most likely paying for everything.  Amy&#8217;s husband is  Matt Hanses and works as ED with Chad Lane.    My friend is going to do some investigative work there in St Louis.  If you can do it too, that would be great.  It is fun to infiltrate an Org and report back to the world just how empty the Orgs are.   Take a small course and use a hidden camera.   You can film the tricks the Staff  use to manipulate and trap people into Scientology.   Specifically, the love bombing.</p>
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		By: Imaberrated		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323524&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Day:

We had about 2-4 students, mostly on intro or minor courses. Occasionally we would have a preclear. We usually had at least one Purifee.

Fdn:

They had about 8-10 students, about the same number on both weeknights and weekends. They had more students because they had a good supervisor, and people work during the weekdays. It’s logical that they would study outside work hours. They didn’t always have a Purifee.

It’s interesting that as production contracted in these orgs, it always boiled down to the course room. You could guarantee there would be someone in there. As a supervisor, it was a great way to escape the mania of the rest of the org.

One fateful day, the lone student didn’t come in, and shit got real. It meant that tech was bad, and led to my declaration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323524">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Day:</p>
<p>We had about 2-4 students, mostly on intro or minor courses. Occasionally we would have a preclear. We usually had at least one Purifee.</p>
<p>Fdn:</p>
<p>They had about 8-10 students, about the same number on both weeknights and weekends. They had more students because they had a good supervisor, and people work during the weekdays. It’s logical that they would study outside work hours. They didn’t always have a Purifee.</p>
<p>It’s interesting that as production contracted in these orgs, it always boiled down to the course room. You could guarantee there would be someone in there. As a supervisor, it was a great way to escape the mania of the rest of the org.</p>
<p>One fateful day, the lone student didn’t come in, and shit got real. It meant that tech was bad, and led to my declaration.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323276&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, at least I&#039;m not raising your blood pressure :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323276">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>Well, at least I&#8217;m not raising your blood pressure 🙂</p>
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		By: Gordon Weir		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 18:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323449&quot;&gt;Theetie Wheetie&lt;/a&gt;.

I did take a spin by today about 11:00AM and went through the parking lot. There were two silver KIAs parked next to each other that must be the Heft&#039;s cars. Once again there were about 17 cars in the parking lot. One of these days I&#039;ll drive by at 7:00AM to see how many cars are there. My parents were among the first 10-20 couples in the US to get involved so when they left it was so small there was no harassment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323449">Theetie Wheetie</a>.</p>
<p>I did take a spin by today about 11:00AM and went through the parking lot. There were two silver KIAs parked next to each other that must be the Heft&#8217;s cars. Once again there were about 17 cars in the parking lot. One of these days I&#8217;ll drive by at 7:00AM to see how many cars are there. My parents were among the first 10-20 couples in the US to get involved so when they left it was so small there was no harassment.</p>
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		By: Foremost		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 09:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xenu never bankrupted or declared me like the CO$ did. He gave me a free ride to Earth keeping me nice and cool for the duration of the trip from stellar heat using glycol alcohol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xenu never bankrupted or declared me like the CO$ did. He gave me a free ride to Earth keeping me nice and cool for the duration of the trip from stellar heat using glycol alcohol.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323375&quot;&gt;Imaberrated&lt;/a&gt;.

Imaberrated, thanks for those details.  I have one more big picture, question:  how many active members were there, who were served by those 20 staff?]]></description>
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<p>Imaberrated, thanks for those details.  I have one more big picture, question:  how many active members were there, who were served by those 20 staff?</p>
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		By: Gordon weir		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-231/#comment-323449&quot;&gt;Theetie Wheetie&lt;/a&gt;.

It is a long story. Facebook messenger me.]]></description>
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<p>It is a long story. Facebook messenger me.</p>
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