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		By: James Rosso		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353802&quot;&gt;PartTimeSP&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sorry that happened to you Jutta.  You&#039;re not the only kid who&#039;s been abused for asking obvious questions that trigger a zealot&#039;s cognitive dissonance (i haven&#039;t but i sympathize).

You are correct, PartTimeSP; that is what would happen.  The thing is, not even Scientology&#039;s leaders believe in the tech and their actions prove it.  How?  Well, you know how it &quot;makes the able more able?&quot;  And how part of the Sea-Org member contract include free training?  WELL, that&#039;s two incentives to get Sea Org members up the bridge a.s.a.p.  But they don&#039;t.  Hell, many members have worked for it for years before even making something as simple as Clear.  

If Scientology worked, i would have my Sea Org members spend ~at least~ half their time training; to make them more effective workers and get more work out of them.

But they don&#039;t, ergo, they really DON&#039;T believe Scientology&#039;s claims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353802">PartTimeSP</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that happened to you Jutta.  You&#8217;re not the only kid who&#8217;s been abused for asking obvious questions that trigger a zealot&#8217;s cognitive dissonance (i haven&#8217;t but i sympathize).</p>
<p>You are correct, PartTimeSP; that is what would happen.  The thing is, not even Scientology&#8217;s leaders believe in the tech and their actions prove it.  How?  Well, you know how it &#8220;makes the able more able?&#8221;  And how part of the Sea-Org member contract include free training?  WELL, that&#8217;s two incentives to get Sea Org members up the bridge a.s.a.p.  But they don&#8217;t.  Hell, many members have worked for it for years before even making something as simple as Clear.  </p>
<p>If Scientology worked, i would have my Sea Org members spend ~at least~ half their time training; to make them more effective workers and get more work out of them.</p>
<p>But they don&#8217;t, ergo, they really DON&#8217;T believe Scientology&#8217;s claims.</p>
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		By: Golden Era Parachute		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Being assigned jobs with free will being supplanted is a way that socialism works, no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being assigned jobs with free will being supplanted is a way that socialism works, no?</p>
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		By: PartTimeSP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 09:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353737&quot;&gt;Jutta Kuhn&lt;/a&gt;.

It’s honestly disgusting. The way I see it, if even half of the promised ‘super powers’ Scientology gave you were real, then there really would be millions of Scientologists worldwide. But there aren’t, are there? Just goes to show what a crock it all is...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353737">Jutta Kuhn</a>.</p>
<p>It’s honestly disgusting. The way I see it, if even half of the promised ‘super powers’ Scientology gave you were real, then there really would be millions of Scientologists worldwide. But there aren’t, are there? Just goes to show what a crock it all is&#8230;</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2020 02:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be fair, the Prosperity seminars do generate real prosperity if only for a certain punch-happy dictator.
It&#039;s also clever of the regs to offer their marks choices about how they will donate, so they can choose the least bad option.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, the Prosperity seminars do generate real prosperity if only for a certain punch-happy dictator.<br />
It&#8217;s also clever of the regs to offer their marks choices about how they will donate, so they can choose the least bad option.</p>
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		By: Jutta Kuhn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353689&quot;&gt;Skyler&lt;/a&gt;.

When I was a young girl , in the 70 , I had the audacity to ask my adoptive mother why Scientology was so expensive and pretty much only accessible to rich or affluent people .
It was answered with a slap in my face that knocked me against the wall .
I then with tears running down my face said : If Scientology will safe this planet , why are we not making it free to everybody . Wouldn&#039;t that help Clear the planet faster ? Wasn&#039;t much time after that I was thrown out of the house.....
BTW I was &quot;natural Clear at age 12 .What a joke....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353689">Skyler</a>.</p>
<p>When I was a young girl , in the 70 , I had the audacity to ask my adoptive mother why Scientology was so expensive and pretty much only accessible to rich or affluent people .<br />
It was answered with a slap in my face that knocked me against the wall .<br />
I then with tears running down my face said : If Scientology will safe this planet , why are we not making it free to everybody . Wouldn&#8217;t that help Clear the planet faster ? Wasn&#8217;t much time after that I was thrown out of the house&#8230;..<br />
BTW I was &#8220;natural Clear at age 12 .What a joke&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Loosing my Religion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353688&quot;&gt;jere Lull (40 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks a lot Jere. But in EU  this apparently went never in full application. Just bla bla. Fund raising is faster and less work to make money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353688">jere Lull (40 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot Jere. But in EU  this apparently went never in full application. Just bla bla. Fund raising is faster and less work to make money.</p>
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		By: Skyler		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was struck by the notion that these poor people have to worry about extending their credit card limits so they could borrow more money and go deeper and deeper into their financial holes. 

Notice there is never any word about  how they may eventually get out!

I suppose that doesn&#039;t matter because they will soon get to Level 12 or whatever level they are currently pushing and then they get to drop their meat and go off to some super planet where they will all be happy beyond all limits. 

As I recall, the men all get to marry 72 virgins and live happily ever after.
From the horrible sexist point of view of the original crazy bastard, I suppose the women would all get 72 young servant boys who would spend 20 hours every day scrubbing their kitchen floors and washing their dishes. What else would make sense to the nutbags who designed this scam?

But it never works &quot;the other way&quot;. But this I mean that it&#039;s considered right and proper for the people at the bottom of the hill to go into eternal debt and bankruptcy in order to feed the &quot;Greed Machine&quot;. But it never comes back to them. It always goes uphill but never downhill. The money never comes back to them.

The question is, &quot;Why is it so important for the money to go uphill but never to come back downhill.&quot;

There is a famous line that describes Organized Crime that I remember is something like this: &quot;The money always goes up the organization but the shit always goes down the organization.

That seems to be pretty applicable to this horrible cult scam. I just wish that I was big enough to step on it and squash it dead. That is what it truly deserves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was struck by the notion that these poor people have to worry about extending their credit card limits so they could borrow more money and go deeper and deeper into their financial holes. </p>
<p>Notice there is never any word about  how they may eventually get out!</p>
<p>I suppose that doesn&#8217;t matter because they will soon get to Level 12 or whatever level they are currently pushing and then they get to drop their meat and go off to some super planet where they will all be happy beyond all limits. </p>
<p>As I recall, the men all get to marry 72 virgins and live happily ever after.<br />
From the horrible sexist point of view of the original crazy bastard, I suppose the women would all get 72 young servant boys who would spend 20 hours every day scrubbing their kitchen floors and washing their dishes. What else would make sense to the nutbags who designed this scam?</p>
<p>But it never works &#8220;the other way&#8221;. But this I mean that it&#8217;s considered right and proper for the people at the bottom of the hill to go into eternal debt and bankruptcy in order to feed the &#8220;Greed Machine&#8221;. But it never comes back to them. It always goes uphill but never downhill. The money never comes back to them.</p>
<p>The question is, &#8220;Why is it so important for the money to go uphill but never to come back downhill.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a famous line that describes Organized Crime that I remember is something like this: &#8220;The money always goes up the organization but the shit always goes down the organization.</p>
<p>That seems to be pretty applicable to this horrible cult scam. I just wish that I was big enough to step on it and squash it dead. That is what it truly deserves.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (40 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 11:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353609&quot;&gt;Loosing my Religion&lt;/a&gt;.

Loosing, I know that Flag&#039;s CF was completely up-to-date in &#039;77 or &#039;78, nothing taking more than an hour from the in-box to filed.  I was told that even though I left a very complete hat pack and the tools I&#039;d built (with my very own hands), before they beached me as not suitable for crew or some such, they had 3 folks in CF and they were falling behind.  More recently, I&#039;ve heard that they&#039;re ADDING to the dev-t and digitizing everything.  WHAT a complete waste of time , money, and effort! There is no efficiency gained in that, since the  paper files are necessary, even required in some cases, and are so much more valuable.  A summary of key points *MIGHT* have limited value in some circumstances, but is SUCH a security weakness, since all the *pertinent* data in a CF could be thus  stored on a thumb drive which could be &quot;accidently&quot; left some place or dropped along the way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353609">Loosing my Religion</a>.</p>
<p>Loosing, I know that Flag&#8217;s CF was completely up-to-date in &#8217;77 or &#8217;78, nothing taking more than an hour from the in-box to filed.  I was told that even though I left a very complete hat pack and the tools I&#8217;d built (with my very own hands), before they beached me as not suitable for crew or some such, they had 3 folks in CF and they were falling behind.  More recently, I&#8217;ve heard that they&#8217;re ADDING to the dev-t and digitizing everything.  WHAT a complete waste of time , money, and effort! There is no efficiency gained in that, since the  paper files are necessary, even required in some cases, and are so much more valuable.  A summary of key points *MIGHT* have limited value in some circumstances, but is SUCH a security weakness, since all the *pertinent* data in a CF could be thus  stored on a thumb drive which could be &#8220;accidently&#8221; left some place or dropped along the way.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (40 years recovering)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 10:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353592&quot;&gt;Tropf Rosemarie&lt;/a&gt;.

There ARE no weekends in scn.    At most, you turn in you stats Thursday, then back to the grind of getting NEXT week&#039;s stats up, perhaps with daily  and hourly targets to be exceeded, or else.  Need to shop or do Laundry?  That&#039;s done in the middle of the night, or on your way to or from class/post as you can squeeze it in.

These days, WELL post-scn, I&#039;m really enjoying retirement; EVERY day is Saturday, I do what I want when/if I want.  My wife and I have gotten to calling todat SAT-urday, the day to sit around doing little or nothing.  She&#039;s enjoying my educating her in the fine points of decadence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-255/#comment-353592">Tropf Rosemarie</a>.</p>
<p>There ARE no weekends in scn.    At most, you turn in you stats Thursday, then back to the grind of getting NEXT week&#8217;s stats up, perhaps with daily  and hourly targets to be exceeded, or else.  Need to shop or do Laundry?  That&#8217;s done in the middle of the night, or on your way to or from class/post as you can squeeze it in.</p>
<p>These days, WELL post-scn, I&#8217;m really enjoying retirement; EVERY day is Saturday, I do what I want when/if I want.  My wife and I have gotten to calling todat SAT-urday, the day to sit around doing little or nothing.  She&#8217;s enjoying my educating her in the fine points of decadence.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2020 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oooh, Central Files all computerized; wash that gal&#039;s mouth with soap, Sea Ogre :)

Thanks for this, RB, even though I shuddered a little while reading it, remembering how for years my weekends were not my own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, Central Files all computerized; wash that gal&#8217;s mouth with soap, Sea Ogre 🙂</p>
<p>Thanks for this, RB, even though I shuddered a little while reading it, remembering how for years my weekends were not my own.</p>
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