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		By: Chris Barnes		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-416066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Barnes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2021 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415785&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Because the Co$ read all these messages and post, I have avoided language or statements that would get me into legal trouble here in the UK. When you have known Hubbard since almost birth, you get to know a lot about his good things and bad things. One does not become very wealthy if one is a complete idiot and fool. The people who moan about him rarely bother to find out the complete facts. I am not defending his bad behaviour, but we were fools for every wanting him to be our spiritual advisor or counsellor, instead of following our own conscience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415785">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Because the Co$ read all these messages and post, I have avoided language or statements that would get me into legal trouble here in the UK. When you have known Hubbard since almost birth, you get to know a lot about his good things and bad things. One does not become very wealthy if one is a complete idiot and fool. The people who moan about him rarely bother to find out the complete facts. I am not defending his bad behaviour, but we were fools for every wanting him to be our spiritual advisor or counsellor, instead of following our own conscience.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 18:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415122&quot;&gt;Mark&lt;/a&gt;.

Your &#039;ethics&#039; files never were confidential; there was some pretense that PC folders were. but not to the level that the EU regulations and HIPAA regulations require. Of course, that&#039;ll never be revealed as long as scientology&#039;s lawyer attack-dogs have anything to say about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415122">Mark</a>.</p>
<p>Your &#8216;ethics&#8217; files never were confidential; there was some pretense that PC folders were. but not to the level that the EU regulations and HIPAA regulations require. Of course, that&#8217;ll never be revealed as long as scientology&#8217;s lawyer attack-dogs have anything to say about it.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415547&quot;&gt;Chris Barnes&lt;/a&gt;.

scientology as a religion is more than a simple paradox: Hubbard said MANY times that they weren&#039;t a religion, didn&#039;t want to be, and so forth.
That all changed once he realized how much MORE MONEY he could *KEEP* if scientology asserted that it was a religion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415547">Chris Barnes</a>.</p>
<p>scientology as a religion is more than a simple paradox: Hubbard said MANY times that they weren&#8217;t a religion, didn&#8217;t want to be, and so forth.<br />
That all changed once he realized how much MORE MONEY he could *KEEP* if scientology asserted that it was a religion.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 18:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Warm up his sauna to 86°<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.  All he needs to do is walk outside for that, I believe.  Oh RIGHT! His supreme lowness doesn&#039;t walk anymore, does he? I&#039;m surprised he doesn&#039;t have his slaves carry around the premises in a litter, as befits his assumed rank and status. One of said slaves *could* carry him around on his/her shoulders OR in a sling-carrier, FFS..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warm up his sauna to 86°🤣.  All he needs to do is walk outside for that, I believe.  Oh RIGHT! His supreme lowness doesn&#8217;t walk anymore, does he? I&#8217;m surprised he doesn&#8217;t have his slaves carry around the premises in a litter, as befits his assumed rank and status. One of said slaves *could* carry him around on his/her shoulders OR in a sling-carrier, FFS..</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 18:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415376&quot;&gt;unelectedfloofgoofer&lt;/a&gt;.

IMO, Dwarfenführer® dares not &quot;update&quot; the SHSBC for fear that students will recognize the alterations he has made in his SHORT tenure.
OT-9!?  Thanks for the LOL.  At worst, someone will have to quickly manufacture SOMEthing named that upon Davey&#039;s death.  Don&#039;t expect it to deliver anything useful, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415376">unelectedfloofgoofer</a>.</p>
<p>IMO, Dwarfenführer® dares not &#8220;update&#8221; the SHSBC for fear that students will recognize the alterations he has made in his SHORT tenure.<br />
OT-9!?  Thanks for the LOL.  At worst, someone will have to quickly manufacture SOMEthing named that upon Davey&#8217;s death.  Don&#8217;t expect it to deliver anything useful, though.</p>
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		By: Chris Barnes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2021 07:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415475&quot;&gt;Beyond2009&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks! I had read the press summary of the book. I think that we would be so much more informed if and when we get personal histories from the principals involved at that important juncture in history when The Freedom fo Religion Act was enacted into constitutional law in Australia which set a precedent for the UK. I do understand the paradox with scientology being a religion. Ian and Judy Tampion, Jane Kember, Tom Minchin, Jim Wilkinson and Ian Rinder deserve our eternal thanks for being amongst those who made it easier for parishioners to follow their conscience. I have my own dislike of David Gaiman and other well-known GO people who placed the scientologists in a more difficult position after 1980 under the orders from LRH and MSH. The suspicion that there were government plants within the GO has been proven. David Gaiman was an assistant to Aldous Huxley and Huxley was working for  MI6. Mo Budlong was similarly suspicious. Hubbard&#039;s links to MI6 are established by his own admissions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415475">Beyond2009</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks! I had read the press summary of the book. I think that we would be so much more informed if and when we get personal histories from the principals involved at that important juncture in history when The Freedom fo Religion Act was enacted into constitutional law in Australia which set a precedent for the UK. I do understand the paradox with scientology being a religion. Ian and Judy Tampion, Jane Kember, Tom Minchin, Jim Wilkinson and Ian Rinder deserve our eternal thanks for being amongst those who made it easier for parishioners to follow their conscience. I have my own dislike of David Gaiman and other well-known GO people who placed the scientologists in a more difficult position after 1980 under the orders from LRH and MSH. The suspicion that there were government plants within the GO has been proven. David Gaiman was an assistant to Aldous Huxley and Huxley was working for  MI6. Mo Budlong was similarly suspicious. Hubbard&#8217;s links to MI6 are established by his own admissions.</p>
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		By: Beyond2009		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415443&quot;&gt;Chris Barnes&lt;/a&gt;.

Tom’s story features in Steve Cannane’s book Fair Game. He may be able to put you in touch. His story is here too but you’ll need a subscription to view it good luck
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=AAWEB_MRE170_a_GGL&#038;dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelaidenow.com.au%2Flifestyle%2Fsa-weekend%2Ffair-game-the-incredible-untold-story-of-scientology-in-australia--new-steve-cannane-book-sheds-light-on-the-organisation-in-sa%2Fnews-story%2F85ce5c4b9cb6f2e3301fc9e97641e1d9&#038;memtype=anonymous&#038;mode=premium&#038;v21=dynamic-hot-test-score&#038;V21spcbehaviour=append]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415443">Chris Barnes</a>.</p>
<p>Tom’s story features in Steve Cannane’s book Fair Game. He may be able to put you in touch. His story is here too but you’ll need a subscription to view it good luck<br />
<a href="https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=AAWEB_MRE170_a_GGL&#038;dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelaidenow.com.au%2Flifestyle%2Fsa-weekend%2Ffair-game-the-incredible-untold-story-of-scientology-in-australia--new-steve-cannane-book-sheds-light-on-the-organisation-in-sa%2Fnews-story%2F85ce5c4b9cb6f2e3301fc9e97641e1d9&#038;memtype=anonymous&#038;mode=premium&#038;v21=dynamic-hot-test-score&#038;V21spcbehaviour=append" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=AAWEB_MRE170_a_GGL&#038;dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelaidenow.com.au%2Flifestyle%2Fsa-weekend%2Ffair-game-the-incredible-untold-story-of-scientology-in-australia&#8211;new-steve-cannane-book-sheds-light-on-the-organisation-in-sa%2Fnews-story%2F85ce5c4b9cb6f2e3301fc9e97641e1d9&#038;memtype=anonymous&#038;mode=premium&#038;v21=dynamic-hot-test-score&#038;V21spcbehaviour=append</a></p>
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		By: Mark Kamran		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415332&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

They do not have that much time. 

As per copy right laws in USA, after 75 years death of the author his work become free stuff ( previously it was 50 years a decade back when an amendment passed in US Congress. In Canada it  is still  50 years)  
Had that amendment not passed, fifteen years from today all those books would have been printed with editing, explanation   narratives etc  from the prospective of new publisher.

Now it is extended for 35 more years.

As per mainstream religion, every thing in this universe came with expiry date be it human , nation, ideology, philosophy and organization.

This was also validated by Theoratical/ Quantum physics  in 1920&#039;s.

Thats why you hardly see any Cult making century,  they are the product of the previous decades  (like cold War era in this case ) and dies out after couple of decade following Geopolitical and Social changes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-314/#comment-415332">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>They do not have that much time. </p>
<p>As per copy right laws in USA, after 75 years death of the author his work become free stuff ( previously it was 50 years a decade back when an amendment passed in US Congress. In Canada it  is still  50 years)<br />
Had that amendment not passed, fifteen years from today all those books would have been printed with editing, explanation   narratives etc  from the prospective of new publisher.</p>
<p>Now it is extended for 35 more years.</p>
<p>As per mainstream religion, every thing in this universe came with expiry date be it human , nation, ideology, philosophy and organization.</p>
<p>This was also validated by Theoratical/ Quantum physics  in 1920&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thats why you hardly see any Cult making century,  they are the product of the previous decades  (like cold War era in this case ) and dies out after couple of decade following Geopolitical and Social changes.</p>
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		By: Chris Barnes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 17:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear All,

I am trying to contact TOM MINCHIN who was from Adelaide in the 1960&#039;s. He lived with us for a year around 1969 in Saint Peter&#039;s. He was a Deputy Guardian and married Dorothy Pemberthy after 1980.
I have to get some historical info from him on a private family matter. -CJB]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>I am trying to contact TOM MINCHIN who was from Adelaide in the 1960&#8217;s. He lived with us for a year around 1969 in Saint Peter&#8217;s. He was a Deputy Guardian and married Dorothy Pemberthy after 1980.<br />
I have to get some historical info from him on a private family matter. -CJB</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2021 09:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All these never-ending distractions are why he hasn&#039;t gotten around to updating the Saint Hill Briefing Course since 2009 yet, let alone start thinking about OT-9.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these never-ending distractions are why he hasn&#8217;t gotten around to updating the Saint Hill Briefing Course since 2009 yet, let alone start thinking about OT-9.</p>
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