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		By: indie8million		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-121658</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2016 23:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120455&quot;&gt;unelectedfloofgoofer&lt;/a&gt;.

Please. Don&#039;t give him any ideas... Besides, he may not want to put any money into a new ship because he&#039;s just going to use the Freewinds as his getaway boat, once people find out that OT 9 and 10 are a big fraud.

It&#039;s ok with me. Bon Voyage little man. Don&#039;t let the screen door hit your bottle of Scotch on the way out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120455">unelectedfloofgoofer</a>.</p>
<p>Please. Don&#8217;t give him any ideas&#8230; Besides, he may not want to put any money into a new ship because he&#8217;s just going to use the Freewinds as his getaway boat, once people find out that OT 9 and 10 are a big fraud.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ok with me. Bon Voyage little man. Don&#8217;t let the screen door hit your bottle of Scotch on the way out.</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-121570</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2016 04:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120525&quot;&gt;Reginald P. Longfellow&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Reginald - What you say may or may not be true for everyone. I&#039;ve met some real hum dingers in my life who met all the criteria of an SP. The book, &quot;The Sociopath Next Door&quot; illuminates the subject in much more detail. To me, it was not an error to note that someone is an SP. The purposeful error that came later is in declaring people they know AREN&#039;T suppressive and running them out of town on a rail after a finely tuned kangaroo court.

Having said that, one policy that was actually fair and endeavored to give an opportunity for a real hearing is the PL below. This hasn&#039;t been being applied for at least the last 10 years of SP declares. Decent, social people have been declared instead, just to get them out of the way of the biggest SP Scientology has ever seen. Well, the shortest at least. Here&#039;s the way a comm ev should be done:

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 17 MAY 1969
Remimeo
AN ETHICS POLICY LETTER
1. All Committees of Evidence, Boards of Investigation, Courts of Ethics and Ethics
Hearings are held with the Interested Party or Parties present while evidence is presented.
This will ensure no false reports are given. The accused can confront the accusers or
know the source of written evidence. Third parties can be found and handled, and true justice
can be brought about.
And, as per HCO Policy Letter of 24 February 1969, JUSTICE, the value of a person
is weighed against any alleged crime, even when proven.
Lt. Cmdr. Yvonne Gillham
Mission Clear Names
LRH:YG:fas.e~.cden
Copyright (c) 1969 for
by L. Ron Hubbard L. RON HUBBARD
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Founder]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120525">Reginald P. Longfellow</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Reginald &#8211; What you say may or may not be true for everyone. I&#8217;ve met some real hum dingers in my life who met all the criteria of an SP. The book, &#8220;The Sociopath Next Door&#8221; illuminates the subject in much more detail. To me, it was not an error to note that someone is an SP. The purposeful error that came later is in declaring people they know AREN&#8217;T suppressive and running them out of town on a rail after a finely tuned kangaroo court.</p>
<p>Having said that, one policy that was actually fair and endeavored to give an opportunity for a real hearing is the PL below. This hasn&#8217;t been being applied for at least the last 10 years of SP declares. Decent, social people have been declared instead, just to get them out of the way of the biggest SP Scientology has ever seen. Well, the shortest at least. Here&#8217;s the way a comm ev should be done:</p>
<p>HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE<br />
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex<br />
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 17 MAY 1969<br />
Remimeo<br />
AN ETHICS POLICY LETTER<br />
1. All Committees of Evidence, Boards of Investigation, Courts of Ethics and Ethics<br />
Hearings are held with the Interested Party or Parties present while evidence is presented.<br />
This will ensure no false reports are given. The accused can confront the accusers or<br />
know the source of written evidence. Third parties can be found and handled, and true justice<br />
can be brought about.<br />
And, as per HCO Policy Letter of 24 February 1969, JUSTICE, the value of a person<br />
is weighed against any alleged crime, even when proven.<br />
Lt. Cmdr. Yvonne Gillham<br />
Mission Clear Names<br />
LRH:YG:fas.e~.cden<br />
Copyright (c) 1969 for<br />
by L. Ron Hubbard L. RON HUBBARD<br />
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Founder</p>
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		By: Reginald P. Longfellow		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120525</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The issue of the SP label is one that needs to be dealt with. Many thousands of good people are discriminated against with this hateful false term.  It&#039;s a fiction from a deranged mind.

The entire reality Hubbard created is false. In his malignant narcissism, which doctor Daniel Shaw calls traumatic narcissism, Hubbard constantly was compelled by an overwhelming obsession.

When one talks of the ravenous wolf that hides in sheep&#039;s clothing this is it, but as Jamie DeWolf said worse than a Wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing Hubbard was a wolf in shepherd&#039;s clothing.

This ravenous hunger is from what Robert Jay Lifton (creator of the essential eight criteria for thought reform) described as the fractured or split mind of the guru, his term for a cult leader. This split mind is disordered (meaning the person has a severe personality disorder) and has the undesirable quality of using constant projection and denial. The guru cannot face their own flaws and crimes and must project them while simultaneously needing to deny their evil and deny the good of others, particularly their enemies.

This combination leads to pathological lying of a particular type. Constant creation of a web of lies that is one hundred and eighty degrees from the truth with the enslaving, criminal guru painted as a hero and his critics and enemies painted as committing crimes, especially the guru&#039;s own !

This audacious reversal is ultimately the origin of the SP doctrine and related doctrine on the tone scale and overts and withholds. It&#039;s all a con. With terrible consequences for the victims. But divorcing yourself from all Hubbard&#039;s practices, language, phrases and lies can free you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of the SP label is one that needs to be dealt with. Many thousands of good people are discriminated against with this hateful false term.  It&#8217;s a fiction from a deranged mind.</p>
<p>The entire reality Hubbard created is false. In his malignant narcissism, which doctor Daniel Shaw calls traumatic narcissism, Hubbard constantly was compelled by an overwhelming obsession.</p>
<p>When one talks of the ravenous wolf that hides in sheep&#8217;s clothing this is it, but as Jamie DeWolf said worse than a Wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing Hubbard was a wolf in shepherd&#8217;s clothing.</p>
<p>This ravenous hunger is from what Robert Jay Lifton (creator of the essential eight criteria for thought reform) described as the fractured or split mind of the guru, his term for a cult leader. This split mind is disordered (meaning the person has a severe personality disorder) and has the undesirable quality of using constant projection and denial. The guru cannot face their own flaws and crimes and must project them while simultaneously needing to deny their evil and deny the good of others, particularly their enemies.</p>
<p>This combination leads to pathological lying of a particular type. Constant creation of a web of lies that is one hundred and eighty degrees from the truth with the enslaving, criminal guru painted as a hero and his critics and enemies painted as committing crimes, especially the guru&#8217;s own !</p>
<p>This audacious reversal is ultimately the origin of the SP doctrine and related doctrine on the tone scale and overts and withholds. It&#8217;s all a con. With terrible consequences for the victims. But divorcing yourself from all Hubbard&#8217;s practices, language, phrases and lies can free you.</p>
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		By: Theta Clear		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120496</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theta Clear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120454&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with us and for your great ack , dear Indie8million.   :-)))


Peter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120454">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experiences with us and for your great ack , dear Indie8million.   :-)))</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		By: Theta Clear		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120495</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theta Clear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120455&quot;&gt;unelectedfloofgoofer&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Makes me wonder why Miscavige hasn’t started regging for a replacement for the Freewinds, which has become much too small due to stratospheric expansion up the wazoo.&quot;


Peter : Yeah,  heard that he was making negotiations to buy the &quot;Allures of the Seas&quot;.  But he demanded some renovations to be made before the deal is closed.    :-)))


&quot;They need something bigger than the Allure of the Seas, at a quarter million tons a nd $3 billion to be outfitted for her maiden voyage, where OT IX will be released. Now it’s time for the field to REALLY step to the plate with the chrome glare of dedication and no more dilettantes.


Peter : Unfortunately,  that won&#039;t ever happen. 


&quot;Also wouldn’t be surprised if Miscavige orders one big gala in the L. Ron Hubbard Hall op opening day in 2025, and then it stays empty forever like a hulking ghost beside the road to Clearwater beach.&quot;


Peter : A ghost building it will be,  all right .  :-)))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120455">unelectedfloofgoofer</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Makes me wonder why Miscavige hasn’t started regging for a replacement for the Freewinds, which has become much too small due to stratospheric expansion up the wazoo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter : Yeah,  heard that he was making negotiations to buy the &#8220;Allures of the Seas&#8221;.  But he demanded some renovations to be made before the deal is closed.    :-)))</p>
<p>&#8220;They need something bigger than the Allure of the Seas, at a quarter million tons a nd $3 billion to be outfitted for her maiden voyage, where OT IX will be released. Now it’s time for the field to REALLY step to the plate with the chrome glare of dedication and no more dilettantes.</p>
<p>Peter : Unfortunately,  that won&#8217;t ever happen. </p>
<p>&#8220;Also wouldn’t be surprised if Miscavige orders one big gala in the L. Ron Hubbard Hall op opening day in 2025, and then it stays empty forever like a hulking ghost beside the road to Clearwater beach.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter : A ghost building it will be,  all right .  :-)))</p>
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		By: Theta Clear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theta Clear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120461&quot;&gt;Ann B Watson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for sharing your story with me,  my dear Ann ; I am really sorry that you had to go through all that. &quot;Thoughtful&quot; is a very interesting character indeed!

I am very happy that you found your home.  :-)))

With love,
Peter]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120461">Ann B Watson</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your story with me,  my dear Ann ; I am really sorry that you had to go through all that. &#8220;Thoughtful&#8221; is a very interesting character indeed!</p>
<p>I am very happy that you found your home.  :-)))</p>
<p>With love,<br />
Peter</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120492</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120446&quot;&gt;Theta Clear&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent posts Peter and Indie 8 Mill.  And thank you to Mike for &quot;doing the work of a thousand men&quot; and helping us all peel off the layers and heal while shining light on the evil that the world needs to hear about and hopefully do something about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120446">Theta Clear</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent posts Peter and Indie 8 Mill.  And thank you to Mike for &#8220;doing the work of a thousand men&#8221; and helping us all peel off the layers and heal while shining light on the evil that the world needs to hear about and hopefully do something about.</p>
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		By: Dawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 15:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120465&quot;&gt;Gayle&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, how I appreciate how they feel:  no more pretence, no more ducking and diving, free to roam and be normal, enjoying normal things, having normal treats and without thinking or acting like you&#039;re above it all.  I appreciate how they feel so much.  It&#039;s what most of us felt after getting out.  

I, for one, wasn&#039;t REALLY so aware of the tight lid I kept on things until I took the lid off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120465">Gayle</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, how I appreciate how they feel:  no more pretence, no more ducking and diving, free to roam and be normal, enjoying normal things, having normal treats and without thinking or acting like you&#8217;re above it all.  I appreciate how they feel so much.  It&#8217;s what most of us felt after getting out.  </p>
<p>I, for one, wasn&#8217;t REALLY so aware of the tight lid I kept on things until I took the lid off.</p>
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		By: Gayle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gayle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 14:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another masterpiece
Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another masterpiece<br />
Thank you!</p>
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		By: Ann B Watson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann B Watson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 14:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120454&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi indie8million, You shine so brightly through your posts! I love that! XO Ann.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-32/#comment-120454">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>Hi indie8million, You shine so brightly through your posts! I love that! XO Ann.</p>
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