Bravo Mike. You’ve shown remarkable tolerance in the past in allowing some of the more outrageous comments through but in this case I’d say you’ve had no choice. Rarely have I felt so reviled by someone’s views or comments – it’s not the kind of thing I come here to follow – so I applaud you in what must have been a rather reluctant milestone.

This is most likely your last post here. I only include it for the record so that people understand why I am inclined to make you the first person I officially block on this blog.

Your rant is disgusting.

If this is all you have to discuss why are you apparently afraid to use your real name? You certainly pose no threat to scientology/OSA/Ethics Officers. So what are you afraid of?

Your horrible rants against women and weird theories, are sick. Your response to TJ is completely out of line. Your hallucinations about Megyn Kelly are simply bizarre (remember, I have seen her in person). You are a disgrace.

Yuck.

My viewpoint, nor opinion Hubbard’s dissertation, is not misogynistic the least bit. It is for the love of the true woman, and for the love humanity, for the love of civilization, for the preservation of civilization.

T.J. Your quote: Dio is only concerned with men’s rights in society,

Nothing is further from the truth.

You made up a lie and then accused me of it.

That is certainly a form of insanity. You clearly need to be apprehended and institutionalized to protect public safety asap.

I never said or implied anything about men’s rights. I have minimal use for rights.

I focus on intelligent, responsible thinking, talking and actions.

Be sure your brain is in gear before engaging mouth.

A major cause of all the degeneration of civilization is caused by exercising liberty, freedoms and rights without responsibility.

All your writing and links are perverted humanistic BS, written by politically correct people who get their counsel from snakes and fools. The same calibre of people as was Nero, who according to history was playing the fiddle, while Rome burned.

Civilization is degenerating and destroying itself at an increasingly alarming rate,
while a certain group of militant psychotic women argue for rights.

These are not real women, though. They are incompetent as true women, or to bo aberrated in some way to be qualified as true women, so they become militant psychopaths and grow testicles which produce lots of testosterone, and they compete with men in their domain.

There was a least one intelligent, sensible, sane, mentally competent woman in 1871.

What she so wisely wrote in 1871 has clearly come to pass.

Thoughts on female suffrage and in vindication of woman’s true rights

By Mrs Madeline Vinton Dahlgren, 1871

http://sceti.library.upenn.edu/sceti/pri…

“We acknowledge no inferiority to men. We claim to have no less ability to perform the duty God has imposed upon us, than they [men] have to perform those imposed upon them. We believe that God has wisely and well adapted each sex to the proper performance of the duties of each. We believe our trusts to be as important and sacred as any that exist.

It is our fathers, brothers, husbands and sons who represent us at the ballot-box. Our fathers and husbands love us. Our sons are what we make them. We are content that they represent us in the corn-field, the battle-field and the ballot-box, and we them in the school-room, at the fireside, and at the cradle; believing our representation, even at the ballot-box, to be thus more full and impartial that it could possibly be were all women allowed to vote.”

“We hold that the new status will prove to be the worst kind of communism. The relations between the sexes, so carefully guarded by religion and by parents, by law and by society, will become common and therefore corrupt. The family, the foundation of the State, will disappear. The mothers, sisters and daughters of our glorious past will exist no more and the female gender will vanish into epicene. “

epicene: 1.having characteristics of both sexes or no characteristics of either sex; of indeterminate sex.

Man woman quality is equal to a dead battery, is equal to the end of humanity, the end of civilization.

The more women do men’s work, the more defeminate/masculine they become. The more they become shemales.

An outstanding example is Meygan Kelly, she fought hard to not only compete with men in their domain, but to be several times better than the men she was working with. She grew huge testicles which pump huge amounts of testosterone and now she looks like a big ugly dick: Take a look:

https://www.google.ca/search?q=meygan+kelly+pictures&tbm=isch&imgil=vtun-UQHd0wraM%253A%253BgFIaJTpzr6EOpM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fvariety.com%25252F2016%25252Ftv%25252Fnews%25252Fdonald-trump-megyn-kelly-fox-news-blasts-sick-1201734151%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=vtun-UQHd0wraM%253A%252CgFIaJTpzr6EOpM%252C_&usg=__Dazg0igTFA9JscIHKJahW68WK7M%3D&biw=1512&bih=941#imgrc=vtun-UQHd0wraM%3A

The women who compete with men in their domain, produce more testosterone, which aberrates the chemistry between men and women and increasingly causes causes erectile dysfunction and psychosis in men, and the break down of marriages, families and homes.

This increases psychosis in children, of which many become terrorists, mad men, mad women, and mass murderers and other types of criminals which is causing the destruction of civilization (the armageddon and the apocalypse). All those terrorists and mass murderers are the products of failure on the homefront of one kind or another.

Only insane, incompetent, negligent, aberrated women can “cause” the destruction the world. Men will never ’cause” the destruction of the world. Men will go mad and secondarily cause war to destroy women indirectly. But it is not first cause.

In vain we build a world if we do not preserve the sanctity of the home front.

Dio

Hi roger, We must have missed each other by a few months!It gets harder for me to remember names,but I do better with faces.I felt so much like you did about Ron and The Greatest Team in this or Any Other Universe in the beginning.We both saw the rot beneath the glitter and we got out of Ron Land.Yeah! I pictured the old neighborhood as you wrote.We did rock and roll in those years.Never a parking space for all on course and auditing out on the loading dock, that was classic! but wherever there was a space @ Temple St it was used.Including that crazy course materials closet that held the SHSBC materials and Class 8 too.That was the time when I was QM and the closet was locked from the inside and a dude on Class 8 absolutely had to finish that night.So I was tasked with getting the door unlocked.Right as if I am handy at picking locks.This dude was ready to throw a fit and in desperation I got a wire coat hanger and managed to jiggle the lock open.The next day I was told how OT I had been to get the student through on time.Now so much older and I hope a little wiser,I believe I used good old common sense.Thise OTs still giving off their invisible wins! ❤️

– that sounds like trying to un-scramble an egg.

Thank you, Ann. This encourages me, knowing I was heard. I so empathize with the good person facing the uncertainty of breaking free from the cult, knowing the brutal and heartless manipulation he or she has gone through. It is depressing. But, you know, I got through it, got to where I am now… and now I want to share what I have learned from the whole experience. Truth is, I didn’t start learning what I had learned until after I had started coming to this blog…

This place, Mike’s blog, does such a wonderful job of exposing the cult for what it really is.
And that helps the snared individual, providing him with the first tools necessary to figure it out, that the tech does far more to close the mind than to forge a path to personal freedom.

The church puts the blame on the individual, entirely. Threatens that individual by saying he is incapable of surviving without the tech, piles on mis-truth on top of deception and all the tricks we are now so familiar with… But, now… what is there to replace scientology? That terrible void. What can we offer as the new set of tools for survival and personal growth?

Conventional thought has been the idea that success leads to happiness. Recent research proves it is the other way around. If we can accept that as a truth, we can build, by the force of will, a new mindset that will indeed lead to a life of well-being, the context of success.

Mindset.
Moved in the right direction, ability and cognizance and effectiveness in the world all become enhanced.
Scientology puts the blame on you, proclaims itself as the answer. That point must be summarily rejected because doing so, that rejection, allows the mindset to focus of the positive potential of self-will, to take risks wagering ability that increases after the experience of trial and error, and invariably shifts the mind to a point where it has greater and greater leverage in the all-important cycle of turning adversity into potential. Scientology will do everything it knows to keep you from even endeavoring to wander astray from its own teachings. Dare. Scientology says things like “The Why Is Not God”, that the reason is you. It is entirely focused on getting you to believe that you are a seriously, seriously flawed being. It will take hold without your awareness, this compromise to yourself. All that is created to sell their fantasy of “going clear”. All that is keep you from being able to turn away, when turning away is the only way to fulfill your first responsibility to yourself, which is to discover your own identity, on your own terms. The first thing scientology did was to get you to believe that there was nothing to turn towards. Belief, that is the operative word. The mind is its own place.

It is a trap. Both belief and scientology. And a most effective one. I do still shudder when I consider the individual whose only support group is the church of scientology. Hubbard knew your vulnerabilities and your desires far too well…

Encouragement is in order. And that’s what I mean when I say first believe in yourself. That belief is warranted. Just acknowledge the valid reasons for your greatness, beauty and virtue, all that is the miracle of you.
And now we have already summarized the need for expressed gratitude.

Reject any person or entity that tells you YOU are the reason for failure.
This cult will hammer you, do real damage, just for doubting…ANYTHING they say!!?

They will make you feel fear, another of their tools, for harboring doubts. LRH was quite paranoid about that, to highlight another of HIS clinical flaws, that anyone would be critical of him. He did not take it well. It was you, as a scientologist, that has paid the price for that, in spades.

Strive to surround yourself with positive people and you are truly on your way.
Emotions are contagious, and positive thinking does in fact lead to success, accelerates it.
Nurture positive thoughts by searching for and acknowledging, and having acknowledged, all that is within you. The sum total of you is greatness without question, a sort of miracle in itself. This depression, while it appears to be both helpless and hopelessly enduring, is destined, if we survive, to be the thing to ultimately turn, run and hide away… Lean to support groups, take any interaction focusing on the positive, on learning.
-and then HAVE it by expressing gratitude. Here you have the reason for the tradition of giving presents at Christmas time – why does that endure?

Success, it begins by “knowing” this body of consciousness within you, forever yours. That is the miracle of you. And life is like Christmas Day. The Miracle. There are three miracles of the Infinite Universe, otherwise unexplainable (although that shouldn’t stop you from giving it a shot). That third miracle is the greatest, in the sequence of things, but we needed the first two, to provide the theater, the stage, the floor upon which to stand. All this is yours, as long as your heart is still beating.

Creation
Life
Consciousness

Your point is indeed valid. I’ve never liked understanding how superior relates to human classification. I’ve seen far too many “superior” people in my time. I hate snobs and fascists alike, but in the purported world of religion, it’s a round peg in a square hole.

A lot of groups understand that if you get ahold of children from a young age and indoctrinate them into a way of thinking, they will believe the ideas pushed on them. A young mind is still forming, and they tend to accept and follow what they are taught.

I read a book from a girl raised in Iran, and she related how the schoolchildren were taught incorrect versions of factual historical events (even the outcomes of wars) and made to chant ‘death to America’ for 5 minutes every morning before classes began. So they were raised with a hatred of a country they actually knew nothing about.

In North Korea, where the access to the outside world is severely limited, the children are raised to believe that their country is the best, and their leader Kim Jong-un is like a god, despite the totalitarian government, abuses from authorities, lack of proper medical treatments and famine. Stories told by North Koreans who have escaped (and they do have to actually escape, citizens are not allowed to freely leave the country) talk about how shocked they were to see the outside world is nothing like they were told, and how much freer everyone is.

Many religious or quasi-religious groups indoctrinate the children from a young age… Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia make it illegal to disagree with the religion or even to speak an opinion against it – a young man named Hamza Kashgari was arrested and jailed for posting that he didn’t understand or agree with the Prophet Muhammed, which is a crime punishable by death. His story was in the news not because of this, which is common, people are executed there every year for simply speaking out, but because he is one of the very few to escape a death sentence and be released.

http://www.pen-international.org/newsitems/saudi-arabia-fears-for-writer-hamza-kashgari-after-extradition/

Religions habitually indoctrinate young children – many strong believers say they ‘raise children up in the faith’ or in other words influence their minds before they are capable of rational thought. Ex-Jehovah’s witnesses talk about how they were taught things as a child that they later disagreed with, but had accepted all their lives as truth. FLDS members report the same thing, how they heard certain teachings from a very young age and as everyone around them accepted these things, so did they. Later they were surprised to find that most people do not live polygamously or marry their young daughters to 60 year old men as their sixth wife or something similar.

Scientology tries to teach children their methods from a young age, and their current partners the N.O.I. teach children to hate white people (calling them ‘the devil’) from a young age, it’s very sad when children are taught to hate someone on the basis of a skin color, or because their ‘group’ is different or believes something different than the ‘group’ the child is in. (Please do a search on these terms for yourself, if you don’t believe me, I am in no way a racist, this is the truth of the Nation of Islam teachings).

The stories posted here and on other sites from adults who were raised in Scientology or another group that influences the mind, who at some point in their lives suddenly came to an understanding that what they were taught is not really what they believe – those stories are so amazing to read, so heartwarming, when a person talks about how they came to a realization that they didn’t actually believe what was pushed on them from an early age, and how they in fact, are able to now formulate their own opinions. It’s beautiful to see when a person’s mind is free and they are able to think for themself.

As far as the original poster’s assertion about U.S. schools wanting to get ahold of children earlier, to indoctrinate them: I think that compared to other countries like those I’ve mentioned above, or other groups, I tend to think it’s not really a motivation for the US. This is because U.S. public schools have standards that must be met, including a separation of church and state, and we don’t really have ethics studies, social sciences, etc. anymore, that would push a way of thought on children, especially not in the lower grades, and the educational materials are openly available to be viewed and commented on by parents, educators, and the general public. The U.S. also allows education outside of the public school system in the form of: private schools, alternative schools, religious/church schools, at-home education and online learning, i.e. ‘home schooling’ – so there isn’t one uniformed standard of learning required for young children here, there is a wide variety of schooling available. We are not a “brainwashed nation” like North Korea.

Mike.

1. I did not use it out of context.

2. Why is the idea or “expressed point” of that article , not true, in application?

Dio

Thank you RogerHornaday, Mike Rinder and anyone else who was sufficiently taken aback by Dio’s comments disparaging women to reply. I thought I’d hold back a bit from replying to Dio’s misogynistic comments myself this time, to see what others thought, and am very happy and thankful to see men here standing up for women.

The World Health Organization (WHO) is an agency of the United Nations concerned with international health, and is a recognized authority. For many years now, this agency has compiled detailed information on issues of health and gender worldwide, and have concluded that in societies where men and women are afforded equal opportunities to live, work, be educated, and participate in society, that those societies as a whole are better for everyone: men, women and children; the societies are healthier, more prosperous, have happier people and a better overall standard of living, and it is directly linked to affording equal rights to all.

Dio can quote Hubbard, and his singular opinion, or decide to listen to the World Health Organization, who provide decades of research by many many people, including doctors, scientists, and economic entities, in many nations, to reach their conclusions.

http://www.who.int/social_determinants/themes/womenandgender/en/

Many other organizations not affiliated to the WHO or United Nations have independently reported similar findings, here is a Canadian agency for example:

“Increasing gender equality improves economic and social conditions for everyone”

http://www.canadianwomen.org/improve-equality

and since Dio is only concerned with men’s rights in society, here’s one for him:

(source: Science Nordic) “Gender equality gives men better lives”

http://sciencenordic.com/gender-equality-gives-men-better-lives

So in conclusion, there are an overwhelming number of agencies reporting and studies showing that in societies where women are allowed equal opportunities to participate, as a result, those societies are better for everyone.

Or Dio can ignore all the findings and choose to quote Hubbard instead. lol.