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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 16:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-485037&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Chuck. How very sad. I see all that pressure put on Quentin just because he was LRHs son and LRH Jr. had washed his hands of the whole thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-485037">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Chuck. How very sad. I see all that pressure put on Quentin just because he was LRHs son and LRH Jr. had washed his hands of the whole thing.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484722&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes.  Plus the parental expectation on Quentin was on top of it, huge.

At the time of his suicide death, he also had been &quot;busted&quot; from being a Class 12 auditor at Flag.

He had just been put on a &quot;retrain&quot; correction program, busted from being the Class 12.

He was dealing with being Hubbard&#039;s son.   Quentin knew Hubbard&#039;s other son had quit and messily departed Scientology.

Quentin besides being gay was also not wishing to be the inheritor to the &quot;tech&quot; (the quackery of Hubbard&#039;s empire) from father LRH.  (Quentin was not a David Mayo or Otto Roos type of personality to take over &quot;top&quot; &quot;tech&quot; quackery overseeing job.)

Remember, the pressure of being the &quot;tech&quot; head of the movement, was also weighing on him.

Expectations are outrageous for offspring of cult leaders, on top of their personal problems.

The theoretical beliefs of us being transmigrating souls who lifetime to lifetime pop in and out of baby&#039;s bodies to live new lives, and then our inherited roles in doing so.

Becoming L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s biological offspring is a huge mental predicament.

It&#039;s way more difficult than you can imagine.

Dennis Erlich&#039;s story of how Quentin openly admitted to &quot;false reporting&quot; on his Class 12 auditor worksheets is a devastating admission.

Dennis Erlich&#039;s discussion of Quentin is the most important.

Quentin was blithely throwing out the window his son of source expected position.

He &quot;blew&quot; Flag mid the &quot;tech&quot; (quackery) correction program.

He started the &quot;correction&quot; program, and us other &quot;intern&quot; trainees saw him and some of &quot;us&quot; trainees even helped him doing his &quot;word clearing&quot; (he had to Method 9 the whole Tech (Quackery) Dictionary as his initial correction action, and I don&#039;t think he completed the Method 9ing of the &quot;Tech&quot; (quackery) Dictionary before he blew and then committed suicide).   

The weight of being LRH&#039;s son and the massive complicated expectations, with the fact that gayness wasn&#039;t fully societally accepted, and the embarrassment this would cause LRH on top of it all, I think Quentin was in the ultimate losing proposition life choices position.  Better dead, for all concerned, type of situation.  

Patience and just doing the least embarrassing actions, better would have been his course obviously not kill himself.     Just slowly live out the turmoil of being the failed Class 12 son of source, and get out of the movement more like his younger brother and older sister later both quit,   would have been a better move.  

It&#039;s so tragic being the offspring of a cult leader, on top of whatever deep problems one has in their life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484722">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Yes.  Plus the parental expectation on Quentin was on top of it, huge.</p>
<p>At the time of his suicide death, he also had been &#8220;busted&#8221; from being a Class 12 auditor at Flag.</p>
<p>He had just been put on a &#8220;retrain&#8221; correction program, busted from being the Class 12.</p>
<p>He was dealing with being Hubbard&#8217;s son.   Quentin knew Hubbard&#8217;s other son had quit and messily departed Scientology.</p>
<p>Quentin besides being gay was also not wishing to be the inheritor to the &#8220;tech&#8221; (the quackery of Hubbard&#8217;s empire) from father LRH.  (Quentin was not a David Mayo or Otto Roos type of personality to take over &#8220;top&#8221; &#8220;tech&#8221; quackery overseeing job.)</p>
<p>Remember, the pressure of being the &#8220;tech&#8221; head of the movement, was also weighing on him.</p>
<p>Expectations are outrageous for offspring of cult leaders, on top of their personal problems.</p>
<p>The theoretical beliefs of us being transmigrating souls who lifetime to lifetime pop in and out of baby&#8217;s bodies to live new lives, and then our inherited roles in doing so.</p>
<p>Becoming L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s biological offspring is a huge mental predicament.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s way more difficult than you can imagine.</p>
<p>Dennis Erlich&#8217;s story of how Quentin openly admitted to &#8220;false reporting&#8221; on his Class 12 auditor worksheets is a devastating admission.</p>
<p>Dennis Erlich&#8217;s discussion of Quentin is the most important.</p>
<p>Quentin was blithely throwing out the window his son of source expected position.</p>
<p>He &#8220;blew&#8221; Flag mid the &#8220;tech&#8221; (quackery) correction program.</p>
<p>He started the &#8220;correction&#8221; program, and us other &#8220;intern&#8221; trainees saw him and some of &#8220;us&#8221; trainees even helped him doing his &#8220;word clearing&#8221; (he had to Method 9 the whole Tech (Quackery) Dictionary as his initial correction action, and I don&#8217;t think he completed the Method 9ing of the &#8220;Tech&#8221; (quackery) Dictionary before he blew and then committed suicide).   </p>
<p>The weight of being LRH&#8217;s son and the massive complicated expectations, with the fact that gayness wasn&#8217;t fully societally accepted, and the embarrassment this would cause LRH on top of it all, I think Quentin was in the ultimate losing proposition life choices position.  Better dead, for all concerned, type of situation.  </p>
<p>Patience and just doing the least embarrassing actions, better would have been his course obviously not kill himself.     Just slowly live out the turmoil of being the failed Class 12 son of source, and get out of the movement more like his younger brother and older sister later both quit,   would have been a better move.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so tragic being the offspring of a cult leader, on top of whatever deep problems one has in their life.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 23:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484263&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Off the subject but what is your opinion on the suicide of Quentin Hubbard? Was he really gay? Did LRH drive him to it?
Just curious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484263">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Off the subject but what is your opinion on the suicide of Quentin Hubbard? Was he really gay? Did LRH drive him to it?<br />
Just curious.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484721</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 23:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484226&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

What about the mighty midget? He&#039;s pretty slender. How does...
Hold on. Comm particle coming in.
Ah, noooooooooooooo!

To: Alcoboy
From: David Miscavige COB RTC
Re: my physique.

HOW I STAY SLENDER IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! SIMPLY KNOW THAT, AS THE MOST THETA BEING IN THE MEST UNIVERSE HEALTH AND WELL BEING COME NATURALLY TO ME!

ML,
Dave.

To: David Miscavige COB RTC aka Slappy
From: Alcoboy
Re: how you stay healthy.

I&#039;m willing to wager that copious amounts of scotch has something to do with it.
After all, alcohol is the universal preservative.

No love at all,
Alcoboy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484226">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>What about the mighty midget? He&#8217;s pretty slender. How does&#8230;<br />
Hold on. Comm particle coming in.<br />
Ah, noooooooooooooo!</p>
<p>To: Alcoboy<br />
From: David Miscavige COB RTC<br />
Re: my physique.</p>
<p>HOW I STAY SLENDER IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! SIMPLY KNOW THAT, AS THE MOST THETA BEING IN THE MEST UNIVERSE HEALTH AND WELL BEING COME NATURALLY TO ME!</p>
<p>ML,<br />
Dave.</p>
<p>To: David Miscavige COB RTC aka Slappy<br />
From: Alcoboy<br />
Re: how you stay healthy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to wager that copious amounts of scotch has something to do with it.<br />
After all, alcohol is the universal preservative.</p>
<p>No love at all,<br />
Alcoboy.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484703</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484646&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Alco.  You&#039;re so honest.   I like that and its cute.   No worries, I didn&#039;t think that about you.  We&#039;re just having fun :)]]></description>
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<p>Thanks, Alco.  You&#8217;re so honest.   I like that and its cute.   No worries, I didn&#8217;t think that about you.  We&#8217;re just having fun 🙂</p>
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		By: safetyguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 12:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read an article that says Paramount is being sued for the sequel.  Seems they didn&#039;t get the rights to do a sequel.

Hmmmmmm how will that go I wonder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an article that says Paramount is being sued for the sequel.  Seems they didn&#8217;t get the rights to do a sequel.</p>
<p>Hmmmmmm how will that go I wonder.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 11:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484454&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

My hope is that TC is starting to see the light and will at some point depart from DM and Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484454">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>My hope is that TC is starting to see the light and will at some point depart from DM and Scientology.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 11:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484587&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Same could be said for Chill E B and other Scientology celebs. 
Sad when you think about it.]]></description>
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<p>Same could be said for Chill E B and other Scientology celebs.<br />
Sad when you think about it.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 11:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484583&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I would like to meet you someday just to see the lady behind the moniker.
Not trying to hit on you, of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484583">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I would like to meet you someday just to see the lady behind the moniker.<br />
Not trying to hit on you, of course.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 02:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484435&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Bingo!  

My personal opinion (and this is only out of my own head because I do not know) is that the main reason TC has played it so safe is because of intense money pressure from COS. 

I also believe this about Kirstie Alley - that the intense pressure to donate influenced her heavily to NOT grow as an actor but instead to take the easy way out, gobbling Twinkies, gaining weight, then losing weight, then gaining it back again, then losing it, and wash, rinse, repeat throughout the decades.  Interviews about her weight; TV shows about her weight, talking  about it incessantly,  relying on being a fat woman trying to lose weight in order to make money, instead of perfecting her acting craft, reaching, growing as an actor and a performer.  I&#039;m guessing she made some money with this &quot;Oooh I&#039;m fat, now look at me Oooh I&#039;m thin, but boo hoo I gained it all back again and now I&#039;m on another diet&quot;  schtick, but in going this route she gave up on herself, and became a boring broad, her own brand of one-trick pony.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-7-8/#comment-484435">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Bingo!  </p>
<p>My personal opinion (and this is only out of my own head because I do not know) is that the main reason TC has played it so safe is because of intense money pressure from COS. </p>
<p>I also believe this about Kirstie Alley &#8211; that the intense pressure to donate influenced her heavily to NOT grow as an actor but instead to take the easy way out, gobbling Twinkies, gaining weight, then losing weight, then gaining it back again, then losing it, and wash, rinse, repeat throughout the decades.  Interviews about her weight; TV shows about her weight, talking  about it incessantly,  relying on being a fat woman trying to lose weight in order to make money, instead of perfecting her acting craft, reaching, growing as an actor and a performer.  I&#8217;m guessing she made some money with this &#8220;Oooh I&#8217;m fat, now look at me Oooh I&#8217;m thin, but boo hoo I gained it all back again and now I&#8217;m on another diet&#8221;  schtick, but in going this route she gave up on herself, and became a boring broad, her own brand of one-trick pony.</p>
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