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		By: Barbara Carr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159920&quot;&gt;Mick Roberts&lt;/a&gt;.

Not only angry/disappointed fans,  also a loss of revenue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159920">Mick Roberts</a>.</p>
<p>Not only angry/disappointed fans,  also a loss of revenue.</p>
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		By: Andrew Jackson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159916&quot;&gt;Harpoona Frittata&lt;/a&gt;.

Hear Hear! I wonder if 1984 is one of DM&#039;s main references used in his strategy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159916">Harpoona Frittata</a>.</p>
<p>Hear Hear! I wonder if 1984 is one of DM&#8217;s main references used in his strategy</p>
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		By: Andrew Jackson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159917&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t think it ruthless at all. I have personally witnessed this happening in Joburg Org. The victim&#039;s name was not Gerald, but it went like this: An American comes to Joburg Org to get auditing etc, as the exchange rate is very favourable (around 11 Rand to 1 Dollar at the time). He gets regged for a crapload of services, and gets lots of auditing. General regging, and fundraising all being pushed very heavily from all sides: Ideal Orgs strategy, IAS donations, CCHR, Youth for Human Rights, Volunteer ministers, you name it. There was not a single week we did not have an &quot;event&quot; at the org. (Event means fundraiser in the current CO$).
The American public starts to get pissed off with this and begins asking some very uncomfortable questions, and demanding answers, getting most unpopular with the Org staff. LRH Comm and others begin to work on declaring him PTS type B for some or other thing they found about in the PC folders. The plan was worked out to reg him for the last R100,000, while the declare papers were being drawn up. As soon as he paid over the money, the declare was given, but not before that last big donation was received.

RB has a way of knowing all this about the Czerch and putting it into cartoon form which communicates so well. In church terms, each Regraded Being strip gets an LFBD from me, as it is just so spot-on accurate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159917">I Yawnalot</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it ruthless at all. I have personally witnessed this happening in Joburg Org. The victim&#8217;s name was not Gerald, but it went like this: An American comes to Joburg Org to get auditing etc, as the exchange rate is very favourable (around 11 Rand to 1 Dollar at the time). He gets regged for a crapload of services, and gets lots of auditing. General regging, and fundraising all being pushed very heavily from all sides: Ideal Orgs strategy, IAS donations, CCHR, Youth for Human Rights, Volunteer ministers, you name it. There was not a single week we did not have an &#8220;event&#8221; at the org. (Event means fundraiser in the current CO$).<br />
The American public starts to get pissed off with this and begins asking some very uncomfortable questions, and demanding answers, getting most unpopular with the Org staff. LRH Comm and others begin to work on declaring him PTS type B for some or other thing they found about in the PC folders. The plan was worked out to reg him for the last R100,000, while the declare papers were being drawn up. As soon as he paid over the money, the declare was given, but not before that last big donation was received.</p>
<p>RB has a way of knowing all this about the Czerch and putting it into cartoon form which communicates so well. In church terms, each Regraded Being strip gets an LFBD from me, as it is just so spot-on accurate.</p>
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		By: Dylan Gill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159987&quot;&gt;Mike Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

He was the fin dir FLB for a spell. They hung out in the reg area, squeezing the whales dry. Jon L and norton drove matching corvettes in the 80&#039;s while most of the other sea org were shuttled back and forth in very used buses.  

Funny the ebb and flow of the sea org. If only LRH had found a way to suck all the human out. We could have been controlled into his small fragile world. Ew... that line of thought does not end well. 

 Thank god people are basically good and do care about their fellow human. They do feel compassion. They experience empathy towards the plights of their fellow man. In a basic way we are all connected and when we allow ourselves to be. This comes into view. 

With Scientology there is no compassion, empathy or reciprocity period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159987">Mike Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>He was the fin dir FLB for a spell. They hung out in the reg area, squeezing the whales dry. Jon L and norton drove matching corvettes in the 80&#8217;s while most of the other sea org were shuttled back and forth in very used buses.  </p>
<p>Funny the ebb and flow of the sea org. If only LRH had found a way to suck all the human out. We could have been controlled into his small fragile world. Ew&#8230; that line of thought does not end well. </p>
<p> Thank god people are basically good and do care about their fellow human. They do feel compassion. They experience empathy towards the plights of their fellow man. In a basic way we are all connected and when we allow ourselves to be. This comes into view. </p>
<p>With Scientology there is no compassion, empathy or reciprocity period.</p>
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		By: Mike Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159985&quot;&gt;Dylan Gill&lt;/a&gt;.

I wasn&#039;t around when Lundeen was an exec at FSO.  Must have been after I left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159985">Dylan Gill</a>.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t around when Lundeen was an exec at FSO.  Must have been after I left.</p>
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		By: Friend		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are one or two or tthird public  .. third is that you are already on the way for your declare .. but as long you pay you are not .. but you get sec checks -- 

What is a sec check .. maybe did not speak about my evil purposes .. if I have such purposes, a sec check would never find out about .. not really, because the mind of LRH is orientated on the e-Meter .. and it doesn&#039;t work on it ..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are one or two or tthird public  .. third is that you are already on the way for your declare .. but as long you pay you are not .. but you get sec checks &#8212; </p>
<p>What is a sec check .. maybe did not speak about my evil purposes .. if I have such purposes, a sec check would never find out about .. not really, because the mind of LRH is orientated on the e-Meter .. and it doesn&#8217;t work on it ..</p>
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		By: Dylan Gill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dylan Gill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159958&quot;&gt;Madge Filpot&lt;/a&gt;.

I did a few missions into FSO div 2 in the mid 80&#039;s. When Ron norton and Jon lundeen were all over the lines. Possible we ran into one another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159958">Madge Filpot</a>.</p>
<p>I did a few missions into FSO div 2 in the mid 80&#8217;s. When Ron norton and Jon lundeen were all over the lines. Possible we ran into one another.</p>
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		By: Jim Henry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159974&quot;&gt;redheadindixiehotmailcom&lt;/a&gt;.

My wife and I have watched every episode and have been shocked by the degree of vindictiveness and heartless behavior which is apparently standard operating procedure by the &quot;Church of Scientology&quot;. The definition of a cult couldn&#039;t be any more clearly defined than by the &quot;Church&quot; of Scientology. 
We really feel sorry for the families caught up in this ruse particularly the trusting children that grow up in this ideological path to nowhere.
Mike and Leah; please keep fighting this good fight!!
Got quite a &quot;kick&quot; out of the Scientology Lawyer that tried to rebut the issues you&#039;ve raised. Her eyes were fluttering so bad due to her lying that we thought she might take flight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159974">redheadindixiehotmailcom</a>.</p>
<p>My wife and I have watched every episode and have been shocked by the degree of vindictiveness and heartless behavior which is apparently standard operating procedure by the &#8220;Church of Scientology&#8221;. The definition of a cult couldn&#8217;t be any more clearly defined than by the &#8220;Church&#8221; of Scientology.<br />
We really feel sorry for the families caught up in this ruse particularly the trusting children that grow up in this ideological path to nowhere.<br />
Mike and Leah; please keep fighting this good fight!!<br />
Got quite a &#8220;kick&#8221; out of the Scientology Lawyer that tried to rebut the issues you&#8217;ve raised. Her eyes were fluttering so bad due to her lying that we thought she might take flight.</p>
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		By: chuckbeatty77		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is sobering.  

I never was smart enough to &quot;reg&quot;, and to be a reg you have ot make some invasive life controlling decisions over other people&#039;s relations and their money.

I wonder WHY regs and the reg personality that the savvy smart executives who are forced to do regging also thing.

There must be some fantasy &quot;good&quot; thoughts about taking people&#039;s money so heartlessly, playing the followers using the various Scientology &quot;services&quot; (crank crap to me now, all that is good are any momentary humanity shared by Scientologists with their public is as good as it gets, and temporary but it suits public for the moment and keeps them aboard).

Such a heartless sobering look into what goes on in the top regging execs and posted regs.

What also goes on in the minds of these top money making regs and execs who have to reg?

The full heartless picture of reg minds must include some kind of delusional thoughts of the good they are doing.

They would otherwise be totally heartless sociopaths but the personalities of the regs I knew when they came to study on course in their study time, seemed personable, at times very sincere.

How humans keep themselves in these untenably heartless greedy futile craven grubbing money making positions I think again comes back to Hubbard pointing to the neccessity of this reg activity to be this way.

The whole backdrop are finance policy, the &quot;income sources&quot;, the &quot;hard sell&quot; pack issues.

Hubbard&#039;s hundreds of sentences pushing income demand, &quot;beans&quot; for &quot;beans&quot;, &quot;income sources&quot;, and then all the way to the end of LRH&#039;s life, his ASI writings are just hype and flog his &quot;LRH products&quot; for recompense.

It&#039;s just so deep, the bigger whole context troubles, are so deep and all through LRH&#039;s writings and orders.

I wonder if this is just &quot;crim regging&quot; with this new strategic twist during this &quot;Crim Reg Era&quot; of Miscaviges, or does anyone think that official Scientology&#039;s &quot;regging&quot; could ever be made ethical morally?

I immediately remember that story David Ziff used to tell CMO messengers who used to jump all over him for sitting on his family inheritance which David got, but David would counter that LRH told David personally to NOT donate that inheritance back to Sea Org reserves.   

LRH told David (and David long ago used to share this anecdote) to hang onto his inheritance because David might someday need it.  That was a &quot;brick&quot; that I hope David kept and if he&#039;s alive I hope he&#039;s keeping that &quot;brick&quot; in his &quot;brick overcoat&quot; from ever being regged by official Scientology today!

I&#039;m atheist, but I was so interested in all that LRH wrote, and still am, wondering can ANY of these Scientologists ever paw through Hubbard&#039;s whole written legacy and change this vicious heartless strategic path they&#039;ve done.

The &quot;income demand&quot; trumps all, and that&#039;s LRH&#039;s fault, I think even he looked the other way for countless instances of &quot;crim regging&quot; though.   Otherwise he&#039;d have ordered the &quot;crim regged&quot; money BACK to the customer/parishioners.

LRH&#039;s writings are lean on giving back people&#039;s crim regged money/donations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sobering.  </p>
<p>I never was smart enough to &#8220;reg&#8221;, and to be a reg you have ot make some invasive life controlling decisions over other people&#8217;s relations and their money.</p>
<p>I wonder WHY regs and the reg personality that the savvy smart executives who are forced to do regging also thing.</p>
<p>There must be some fantasy &#8220;good&#8221; thoughts about taking people&#8217;s money so heartlessly, playing the followers using the various Scientology &#8220;services&#8221; (crank crap to me now, all that is good are any momentary humanity shared by Scientologists with their public is as good as it gets, and temporary but it suits public for the moment and keeps them aboard).</p>
<p>Such a heartless sobering look into what goes on in the top regging execs and posted regs.</p>
<p>What also goes on in the minds of these top money making regs and execs who have to reg?</p>
<p>The full heartless picture of reg minds must include some kind of delusional thoughts of the good they are doing.</p>
<p>They would otherwise be totally heartless sociopaths but the personalities of the regs I knew when they came to study on course in their study time, seemed personable, at times very sincere.</p>
<p>How humans keep themselves in these untenably heartless greedy futile craven grubbing money making positions I think again comes back to Hubbard pointing to the neccessity of this reg activity to be this way.</p>
<p>The whole backdrop are finance policy, the &#8220;income sources&#8221;, the &#8220;hard sell&#8221; pack issues.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s hundreds of sentences pushing income demand, &#8220;beans&#8221; for &#8220;beans&#8221;, &#8220;income sources&#8221;, and then all the way to the end of LRH&#8217;s life, his ASI writings are just hype and flog his &#8220;LRH products&#8221; for recompense.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just so deep, the bigger whole context troubles, are so deep and all through LRH&#8217;s writings and orders.</p>
<p>I wonder if this is just &#8220;crim regging&#8221; with this new strategic twist during this &#8220;Crim Reg Era&#8221; of Miscaviges, or does anyone think that official Scientology&#8217;s &#8220;regging&#8221; could ever be made ethical morally?</p>
<p>I immediately remember that story David Ziff used to tell CMO messengers who used to jump all over him for sitting on his family inheritance which David got, but David would counter that LRH told David personally to NOT donate that inheritance back to Sea Org reserves.   </p>
<p>LRH told David (and David long ago used to share this anecdote) to hang onto his inheritance because David might someday need it.  That was a &#8220;brick&#8221; that I hope David kept and if he&#8217;s alive I hope he&#8217;s keeping that &#8220;brick&#8221; in his &#8220;brick overcoat&#8221; from ever being regged by official Scientology today!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m atheist, but I was so interested in all that LRH wrote, and still am, wondering can ANY of these Scientologists ever paw through Hubbard&#8217;s whole written legacy and change this vicious heartless strategic path they&#8217;ve done.</p>
<p>The &#8220;income demand&#8221; trumps all, and that&#8217;s LRH&#8217;s fault, I think even he looked the other way for countless instances of &#8220;crim regging&#8221; though.   Otherwise he&#8217;d have ordered the &#8220;crim regged&#8221; money BACK to the customer/parishioners.</p>
<p>LRH&#8217;s writings are lean on giving back people&#8217;s crim regged money/donations.</p>
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		By: Wognited and Out!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159941&quot;&gt;Jessie&lt;/a&gt;.

Go to Scientology FB sites and post your reviews 

This is what I am posting....

&quot;I tried Scientology and all I got was my own personal SMEAR SITE, a bankruptcy, a foreclosure, a divorce and then a Goldenrod&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-79/#comment-159941">Jessie</a>.</p>
<p>Go to Scientology FB sites and post your reviews </p>
<p>This is what I am posting&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;I tried Scientology and all I got was my own personal SMEAR SITE, a bankruptcy, a foreclosure, a divorce and then a Goldenrod&#8221;.</p>
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